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		<title>By: Right On Right Violence To A Soundtrack Of Lee Greenwood &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right On Right Violence To A Soundtrack Of Lee Greenwood &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more, I have defended David, publicly and in print, for his criticism of Mark Levin and Rush [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WillyP</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/young-hipster-cons-enter-the-fray/comment-page-2#comment-80955</link>
		<dc:creator>WillyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 04:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eventually everyone gets tired of dealing with morons.  i&#039;ve reached my limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eventually everyone gets tired of dealing with morons.  i&#8217;ve reached my limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanzeon</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/young-hipster-cons-enter-the-fray/comment-page-1#comment-80933</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanzeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I didn&#039;t vote for Obama.  He isn&#039;t my &quot;boy&quot; and I find that a revealing term, for reasons that should be readily apparent.  But I digress...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I didn&#8217;t vote for Obama.  He isn&#8217;t my &#8220;boy&#8221; and I find that a revealing term, for reasons that should be readily apparent.  But I digress&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kanzeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kanzeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WillyP:

Again, I give you precise definitions, and you respond with vague equivalencies that exist only inside your own head, and stand on your right to define words in whatever way you please.  

You can&#039;t make an argument based on correct use of terminology, just as you can&#039;t make an argument that is moored in any common sense reality, because you can&#039;t deal with complexity.  

So, next time I point out you are using words incorrectly, don&#039;t challenge me again and retreat again.  Just don&#039;t misuse the language in the first place.  Look it up in the dictionary yourself.  Show a little self reliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WillyP:</p>
<p>Again, I give you precise definitions, and you respond with vague equivalencies that exist only inside your own head, and stand on your right to define words in whatever way you please.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t make an argument based on correct use of terminology, just as you can&#8217;t make an argument that is moored in any common sense reality, because you can&#8217;t deal with complexity.  </p>
<p>So, next time I point out you are using words incorrectly, don&#8217;t challenge me again and retreat again.  Just don&#8217;t misuse the language in the first place.  Look it up in the dictionary yourself.  Show a little self reliance.</p>
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		<title>By: WillyP</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/young-hipster-cons-enter-the-fray/comment-page-1#comment-80929</link>
		<dc:creator>WillyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you can use a dictionary.
&quot;It’s not up to me, or you, to define words.&quot;
Do words define themselves?  At some point, not so long ago, people defined these words.  But I digress...

Pray tell, were the pros/cons of lo stato corporativo versus Bolshevism?

Can you even speak intelligently about either?  I doubt this very much.

Once you wrap your head around both concepts, perhaps you&#039;ll come to the conclusion that, regardless of the Wikipedia definitions, they are nearly identical in practice.  And that practice consists of centralized control, rather than DECENTRALIZED - that is, Market - control.

If you aren&#039;t keen enough to recognize that your boy, Obama, is taking over the American economy one piece at a time, well... I suggest you ask yourself when the last time the man lifted, rather than imposed, restrictions on business - i.e., when he afforded more control over private interests rather than exercised every more control.  What industry has benefited from Obama lifting its terrible  regulatory burden?

You think you&#039;re so clever, and yet you are a clear ignoramus.  If not, write something passably intelligent on the topic of economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you can use a dictionary.<br />
&#8220;It’s not up to me, or you, to define words.&#8221;<br />
Do words define themselves?  At some point, not so long ago, people defined these words.  But I digress&#8230;</p>
<p>Pray tell, were the pros/cons of lo stato corporativo versus Bolshevism?</p>
<p>Can you even speak intelligently about either?  I doubt this very much.</p>
<p>Once you wrap your head around both concepts, perhaps you&#8217;ll come to the conclusion that, regardless of the Wikipedia definitions, they are nearly identical in practice.  And that practice consists of centralized control, rather than DECENTRALIZED &#8211; that is, Market &#8211; control.</p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t keen enough to recognize that your boy, Obama, is taking over the American economy one piece at a time, well&#8230; I suggest you ask yourself when the last time the man lifted, rather than imposed, restrictions on business &#8211; i.e., when he afforded more control over private interests rather than exercised every more control.  What industry has benefited from Obama lifting its terrible  regulatory burden?</p>
<p>You think you&#8217;re so clever, and yet you are a clear ignoramus.  If not, write something passably intelligent on the topic of economics.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marine vs. the &#8220;Hipster Con&#8221; &#124; Republicans United.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Marine vs. the &#8220;Hipster Con&#8221; &#124; Republicans United.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guardiano wrote a pointed blog post against what he calls &#8220;young hipster cons&#8221; or young dissident conservatives describing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kanzeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kanzeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WillyP:

It&#039;s not up to me, or you, to define words.

You don&#039;t seem to get that.

Here:

&quot;Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a corporatist economic system,[5] and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

&quot;Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

These are the definitions.  There isn&#039;t any debate on that score.

A government that is proposing a spending freeze on social programs, a health care reform bill that doesn&#039;t include a publically funded plan, a stimulus bill that includes hundreds of billions in tax cuts, and props up the private banking industry isn&#039;t socialist.

If you persist in using these words to define either of the major political parties, you are just embarrassing  yourself.   I&#039;m not going to waste my time with it.  Try to learn something, instead of spouting off whatever ignorant swill some radio charletan peddles to sell airtime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WillyP:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not up to me, or you, to define words.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t seem to get that.</p>
<p>Here:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a corporatist economic system,[5] and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism</a></p>
<p>These are the definitions.  There isn&#8217;t any debate on that score.</p>
<p>A government that is proposing a spending freeze on social programs, a health care reform bill that doesn&#8217;t include a publically funded plan, a stimulus bill that includes hundreds of billions in tax cuts, and props up the private banking industry isn&#8217;t socialist.</p>
<p>If you persist in using these words to define either of the major political parties, you are just embarrassing  yourself.   I&#8217;m not going to waste my time with it.  Try to learn something, instead of spouting off whatever ignorant swill some radio charletan peddles to sell airtime.</p>
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		<title>By: WillyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>WillyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kanzeon,
Almost incessantly, you tell me I cannot define words.  And yet, when I give you definitions, and try to educate you, you balk.

So again - why don&#039;t YOU define socialism and fascism and I&#039;ll tell you how you&#039;re wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kanzeon,<br />
Almost incessantly, you tell me I cannot define words.  And yet, when I give you definitions, and try to educate you, you balk.</p>
<p>So again &#8211; why don&#8217;t YOU define socialism and fascism and I&#8217;ll tell you how you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanzeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kanzeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WillyP:

You still have trouble with basic terminology.

In addition to your continuing misuse of such easy terms as &quot;socialist&quot; and &quot;fascist&quot; you have confused &quot;political movement&quot; with &quot;paid entertainer with a fan club.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WillyP:</p>
<p>You still have trouble with basic terminology.</p>
<p>In addition to your continuing misuse of such easy terms as &#8220;socialist&#8221; and &#8220;fascist&#8221; you have confused &#8220;political movement&#8221; with &#8220;paid entertainer with a fan club.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WillyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>WillyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kanzeon,
He leads a political movement whose primary purpose is irritating and defeating libs by not giving their statism one modicum of respectability.  He will lead you out of darkness.  And he broadcasts from an underground bunker, don&#039;cha know?

Furthermore, the only principles than you hold dear are redistribution and self-promotion of your own expansive ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kanzeon,<br />
He leads a political movement whose primary purpose is irritating and defeating libs by not giving their statism one modicum of respectability.  He will lead you out of darkness.  And he broadcasts from an underground bunker, don&#8217;cha know?</p>
<p>Furthermore, the only principles than you hold dear are redistribution and self-promotion of your own expansive ego.</p>
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