You Heard it First from Ron Radosh

August 29th, 2011 at 3:03 pm | 11 Comments |

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On August 28, Noah Kristula-Green wrote on FrumForum about the similarities between the new MLK Memorial statue and several other pieces of totalitarian art.

However, Ron Radosh got on the beat earlier. On August 23rd, wrote about the similarities between the memorial statue and the many monuments to Mao Tse-Tung in China.

As the report accompanying this photo notes, the statues are going up again  throughout China, and older ones are being carefully restored. They are all quite huge, and have the same effect when one looks at them as one has looking at the giant King now in Washington, D.C.

So am I not surprised, after a quick internet search, to find out that sculptor Le Yixin is — yes, you guessed it–  most well known for his sculptures of Mao Zedong.

So, our greatest civil rights leader, a man dedicated to non-violence, Ghandian principles applied to oppression within a democratic society, is honored by a sculptor whose background is that of fashioning tributes to one of the late century’s most horrible tyrants and mass murderers.

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  • drdredel

    We (the people) didn’t de-pants you monkeys enough in the original article, so you thought a follow up with further idiocy was in order?

    Fabulous insight.

  • Graychin

    I’m proving Godwin’s Law here, but this attitude at FF reminds me of how the Nazis banished and destroyed the art produced by Jews, and by anyone else who held opinions believed to contradict ideals of the Reich. It wasn’t about the art – it was about the artist. Never mind that communists (and Jews) are capable of creating great art.

    Please have your water supply at FF checked. Something must have gotten in there that is making you all crazy.

    • drdredel

      Godwin’s law (correct me if I’m wrong) is not relevant here as it pertains to how eventually someone will be called a nazi or compared to a nazi… you don’t invoke the law simply by mentioning nazis or naziism!

      • Graychin

        I am kinda sorta comparing the FF editors to Nazis here. They would diminish artistic work because of the associations of the artist.

      • ottovbvs

        Any ref to the guy with the moustache or any aspects of his activities is generally regarded as an invocation of Godwins law. Viz

        It states: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (100%).” In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.

        The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses.”

  • ottovbvs

    On the artistic issue, America is dotted with heroic and socialist realist style sculptures and indeed Fascist style architecture. The most notable example of the latter in Washington (Republicans are going to love this one) is the Fed building surely. Indeed the new WW memorial is faintly fascistic/imperial in flavor. It’s very Edwyn Lutyens. This entire discussion is rather silly. I always think the statue of Sherman in front of the Plaza bears an uncanny resemblance to that of Alte Fritz in Unter den Linden. Does this have some special significance. These paranoid conservative witchhunters need to give it a rest. Socialist realist sculpture or painting is a perfectly legit school of art.

  • nwahs

    Its even dumber the second time around.Note to spin doctors: Stay away from art, meteorology, and medicine. Those subjects make you look like boobs.

  • jg bennet

    the statue is WAY UUUUGLY, it is bad art and i agree with the frumsters and what the commission of fine arts said in 2008 that the monument was crap and does not reflect king. you guys defending it sound like a bunch of lefty left commie pinko sympathizers :) really, you have to admit the piece is a piece of shit on an artistic scale.

    • ottovbvs

      Quite a lot of people think Guernica or Demoiselles of Avignon are pieces of poop, not to mention various other artforms like Pre Raphaelism, Gaudiism or Beaux Arts. Would you give us a glimse of your credentials as an art critic. By the way I’m not defending it just saying socialist realism is a legit artform as is the Victor Emmanuel memorial in Rome which is obviously more your style.

  • rbottoms

    When standing in a hole, stop digging doesn’t apply here.

    Your concern over the MLK statue has been duly noted.

    My response: Fuck the GOP, Conservatives, and the Tea Party Racists who are your base now. If I left anyone out, bite my shiny black ass.

  • Rossg

    Let me see if I have correctly gotten the message behind this piece. Whatever we Americans may plan to do, arrange, commemorate or otherwise undertake, we better check all our adversaries first. For if they have done anything remotely similar, we can’t then undertake our effort. Or maybe it is just that we should have found a sculptor from South Succotash.

    In any event, I am forthwith sitting on my hands, closing my eyes and ears, and not thinking of a thing lest I offend and/or paint myself as unAmerican.

    The simple fact is, we have many, many statues in this country, and I am sure they were not all produced by full-blooded Americans.