Riding Obamacare to Victory in November

March 29th, 2010 at 12:46 am | 48 Comments |

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Republicans counting on Obamacare’s unpopularity to deliver them a win in November seem likely to face disappointment. An honest look at the package shows it’s masterfully designed to deliver a lot of meaningful favors to groups likely to reward Democrats at the polls in November. In particular, senior citizens and middle class families all get immediate benefits while the important costs and externalities resulting from the package won’t take place for some time. Democrats are right to think that people will like the package.

Let’s begin with the well-organized senior-citizen population. Seniors taking advantage of the Medicare drug benefit get an immediate and tangible handout thanks to Obamacare: $250 as a cash rebate to help pay drug costs. Combined with some pharmaceutical industry price cuts and an ongoing generic drug price war that Wal-Mart sparked, seniors’ already falling out-of-pocket drug costs will fall even more before November.  And at least some people will vote for Democrats as a result.

Middle class families get even more. In fact, the plan’s new rules relating to children’s coverage and lifetime maximum benefits will instantly alleviate many anxieties that most middle-class families feel about healthcare.  By letting children stay on their parents’ healthcare plans until age 26, hardly anyone with children will have to worry about his or her new college graduate getting healthcare. Rules that forbid healthcare providers from excluding children with pre-existing conditions will impact only a few but they will produce a lot of heart-warming stories about children whose families no longer have to worry about potentially bankrupting medical costs.  The immediate elimination of lifetime coverage maximums, likewise, means that almost no seriously ill person with employer-provided family health insurance will have to worry about exhausting benefits.  Finally, new high risk pools — a temporary measure until exchanges begin operating in 2014 — will make coverage a lot easier to get for sick people with decent incomes.

Republicans can’t legitimately call for the repeal of any of this: nearly all of the immediate changes are consensus measures that they incorporated into their own healthcare plans. Even better for Democrats, very few will have short term costs. Higher taxes, the potential of waiting lists, and some employers’ decision to drop coverage and the like won’t happen until 2014 or after. The one immediate tax from the plan — a 10 percent levy on indoor sun-tanning — seems unlikely to cause much public anger since, obviously, the tanning industry and its customers didn’t mount an effective campaign against its imposition.

None of this means that Obamacare is good policy. The program is still a big government takeover of the healthcare industry that may diminish the quality of healthcare. I’ll benefit but others may lose. The short term changes, furthermore, seem calculated to get votes by catering to get them from people who have anxiety about medical costs rather than helping those — lower-income single people, small business owners, laid-off workers in their 50s — who have the fewest options under the current system.

Politically, however, the Democrats are right. Once people understand the plan, many Americans will like it.

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48 Comments so far ↓

  • NBlitzer

    The fact is people love a winner. Democrats can go to their constituents and say they did what they were sent to Washington to do: “an effective congress is a Democratic congress”. Obama, of course, is the big winner here. He went from the president with the worst first year to one of the greatest legislative feats in American history. I salute you Mr President!

  • chriscurrey

    The sad fact is that we were in power. We had the WH, and Congress under our control. We could’ve done something about this problem. But for some ideological reasons, we didn’t. Now, we can’t blame the Democrats for delivering on their electoral promise. They won the elections, they earned the right to set the agenda and pass their legislation. All of the noise that our leaders are doing in Congress will come back and bites us in the behind. I, for one, decided to vote for the Democratic candidate if Rubio wins. Congress doesn’t not need one more Jim Demintt in DC.

  • InfiniteThoughts

    If the republicans are any intelligent, they will stop calling this Obamacare.

    Believe me, Obama is one of the shrewdest US presidents. Come, August when folks are starting to enjoy the benefits of the bill, Obama will unleash an immaculate campaign to pitch the benefits of the bill. The term “Obamacare” will then be converted into a positive spin by the democrats and the republicans will lose big time!!!

  • rbottoms

    Once people understand the plan, many Americans will like it.

    Damn skippy.

    If the republicans are any intelligent, they will stop calling this Obamacare.

    I couldn’t improve on that slow ball by answering it, just quoting seems to be sufficient.

  • rjcrawford33

    How is it a takeover by big government? There is no public option and it operates through existing local authorities. It is a reshuffling of what already exists with some requirements imposed.

    You better think of some better arguments against it, because this sounds like a warmed over version of the fear mongering (i.e. “death panels”) that failed before.

    I mean, let’s inject some substance into the debate – like caring for what is better for people – and let go of some of the politics. Right now, the GOP stance is still pure politics, as this article attests. Move to policy.

  • mlindroo

    Short term, I suspect HCR is a wash with roughly half in favor and the other half of the electorate in fierce opposition. But the INDIRECT impact is huge: Obama/Reid/Pelosi have now shown “change we can believe in” was more than a slogan and the Democratic base ought to feel excited about it. Recent opinion polls already suggest the “motivation gap” between Republican and Democratic voters is shrinking.

    If Obama takes a page from the Reagan playbook and vigorously defends his groundbreaking reforms on the campaign trail this fall, the Dems might lose fewer seats than most observers think. E.g. -25 in the House and -4 in the Senate would be a perfectly acceptable result, considering the current state of the economy.

    MARCU$

  • MikeJ2

    I think Obama can and should run circles around the denialists. Imagine a TV commercial flipping back and forth between an unpleasant person holding a ‘NO’ sign, and a real person who has his or her real needs met by HCR. The Democrats should find as many people who benefit as possible and let them be a major part of their campaign advertising.

  • franco 2

    This is more policy wonk, inside the beltway punditry. It is the behaviour emanating from holding this perspective that causes LOSSES by Republicans.

    The assumption exaggerates how voters are all just looking at their 1040 forms and FICA contributions and calculating what government lollipops are being doled out. Republicans who put too much emphasis on this are losing elections to Democrats and otherwise to more realistic conservatives in primaries.

    There is footage of Obama denouncing his own plan (debating Hillary) and footage of Obama on record with all kinds of promises he’s already broken. Americans are also extremely unhappy with how the Democrats forced this bill through. They are also NOT as stupid, generally, as the elitist Frummers hold them in their giant heads filled with wonkery. Seniors on the whole, know what’s coming, and a few goodies now will not buy them off.

    No, Democrats will lose big in November because of health care, because of our imperious congresspersons on the D side, and because Democrat voters have lost nearly ALL enthusiasm for Obama, while Republicans and independents are fired up.

    OH yeah, that’s right Obama has lost most of the independents who voted for him already. They saw the bait and switch Obi-won pulled off. They thought they were getting a reasonable non-polarizing statesman, and they see they got a regal ideologue who prevaricates without shame daily.

    But Frummers here don’t go to cocktail parties – or if they do, they don’t talk to ordinary Americans. They are, for the most part, living in their own cocoon. They aren’t reading much alternative media, nor are they listening to talk radio, preferring second hand reports from Soros funded propaganda outlets.

  • sinz54

    rjcrawford: You better think of some better arguments against it, because this sounds like a warmed over version of the fear mongering (i.e. “death panels”) that failed before.
    The best argument against it is that costs are going to rise sharply, and premiums are going to rise sharply. And that is going to lead to Congress going back to the drawing board, and putting even more restrictive controls on the system, and raising taxes too.

    As precedent, we can cite RomneyCare, the health care reform that then Governor Romney introduced here in MA, where I live. ObamaCare was, in fact, inspired by RomneyCare: Both have a mandate. Both have guaranteed issue (can’t be turned away for pre-existing conditions). Neither has a public option for the middle class and affluent. (RomneyCare has a public option only for the truly poor.)

    Has RomneyCare greatly expanded coverage and provided peace of mind to those who have pre-existing conditions? YES.

    Has RomneyCare controlled costs? NO. My own BlueCross premium, which is already the highest BlueCross premium in the nation, was just raised by 44%. As a result, Governor Patrick and the MA legislature are scrambling to put more controls on the system. They’re bringing back capitation–genuine rationing of care–which Americans loathed in the 1990s when some HMOs tried it.

    And that’s going to happen all across the country now.

    The “Grand Bargain”–guaranteed issue in exchange for a mandate to bring more policyholders into the system–has FAILED to control costs.

    Liberals said that the only way to control costs was with a public option.
    Since ObamaCare doesn’t have a public option,
    that’s an admission that it won’t control costs.

    And the experience of RomneyCare in MA proves it.

    Hope this helps.

  • franco 2

    After I posted I was just curious to see who Arthur Green is and apparently it’s a pseudonym for a “Washington policy analyst”. I just wanted to say that I didn’t even know that when I wrote what I wrote above. Not that it was that difficult to suss out from the article itself…

    Anyway,

    A perfect case in point here about which media is being read or listened to. The rally held to defeat Reid in Searchlight Nevada, CBS news reported “hundreds, perhaps even dozens” attended.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2010/03/27/cnn-lowballs-nevada-tea-party-event-hundreds-people-least-dozens-people-p

    If they are relying on CBS news figures Harry Reid is safe. If not then he might be a bit, er, vulnerable to say the least…

    This is just one little example of how people are being mislead by the MSM.

  • Chekote

    chriscurrey

    Excellent post! I feel exactly the same way. Instead of wasting time on impeaching Clinton, Schiavo, embryonic stem cell research and other pet issues of the Religious Right, we should have used our turn in power to actually change the direction of the country.

  • Chekote

    The problem with the Republican party is that they failed to take the time to figure out where they went wrong. Soon after the devasting defeat in 2008, for a couple of weeks there was a little self-reflection. But soon the big talk show host microphone took over and everything was blamed on the RINOs, the MSM and ACORN. This was followed with a full court attack on everything that Obama did. Had we taken the time, we would be talking policy. Ryan and others like him would be at the forefront while Palin would be fading. Maybe it will take another defeat before the GOP gets the message.

  • balconesfault

    Franco:

    and because Democrat voters have lost nearly ALL enthusiasm for Obama

    Time to revisit that story line.

    No More Enthusiasm Gap
    The latest Washington Post/ABC News poll shows 76% of registered Democrats are enthusiastic to vote this November while 75% of registered Republicans are enthusiastic.

    And this poll reflects the situation BEFORE the upcoming fracture during Republican Primaries … after which:

    – some number of Republicans who believe that certain provisions of the Healthcare Bill need to be kept are going to have to hold their noses and vote for a candidate who has campaigned on repealing “Obamacare”
    – some number of Tea Partiers are going to have to hold their noses and vote for a candidate who campaigned on working to craft some modifications to Healthcare without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

  • ottovbvs

    “Republicans counting on Obamacare’s unpopularity to deliver them a win ”

    …..This to start with was always an illusion…..his appro never went below the high forties and that was largely because a lot of Democrats were fretting about the slowness of the process…..several polls now have him back above 50 including Gallup……and on the personal level his likeability level has never been out of the 60′s……in short, despite the ocean of hate mongering from the right, the vast majority of people like the guy.

    …..On the bill itself, of course it’s popular….DUH……at a stroke it addresses huge areas of angst among the middle classes and seniors…..furthermore it’s rapidly going to become apparent that all all the Republican talk about socialist takeovers and death panels were about as reliable as all the scaremongering about mushroom clouds and WMD’s…..The Republicaans during this debate have, just as they did over the stimulus program, given lots of hostages to fortune which are going to figure prominently in the run up to the election…..and they are about to deliver more in the controversy over further bank regulation in which they’re latest smoke and mirrors gambit is that it’s a bank bailout….yeah right.

    ……. The Republicans consistently under rate Obama who is the master of rope a dope…..After 14 months of relentless obstruction on healthcare, stimulus, appointments, schip, leadbetter….is there anyone in the country(apart from those on the right) who doesn’t perceive the Republicans as in the business of obstructing Obama/Democrats at every turn…..HELL NO…..how could they since it’s on TV every night…..so now Obama pivots (more in sorrow than anger, head shaking sadly) to I TRIED…..he made 15 recess appointment and it had as much resonance as a sparrow farting in Wisconsin….and there will be more……He’s now on a roll and as we head into the summer and more wins pile up like the START treaty and the economy starts to move into higher gear he’s going to ever more the winner.

  • ottovbvs

    sinz54 // Mar 29, 2010 at 9:23 am

    “The best argument against it is that costs are going to rise sharply”

    ……so what’s new…..they’ve just seen premium hikes of 40% in CA

    “Liberals said that the only way to control costs was with a public option.
    Since ObamaCare doesn’t have a public option,”

    …..so we should add one….is that right Sinz?

  • ottovbvs

    MikeJ2 // Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 am

    “I think Obama can and should run circles around the denialists. Imagine a TV commercial flipping back and forth between an unpleasant person holding a ‘NO’ sign, and a real person who has his or her real needs met by HCR. ”

    ……You have put your finger on it Mike…….the Dem ads this fall are going to be a total trainwreck for the Republicans…..they have so much material to choose from…..HELL YES

  • rjcrawford33

    sinz, costs and premiums are already rising catastrophically. The system is unsustainable and will have to be severely cut someday.

    I used to live in Concord, MA, by the way. I miss MA.

  • balconesfault

    Chekote But soon the big talk show host microphone took over and everything was blamed on the RINOs, the MSM and ACORN. This was followed with a full court attack on everything that Obama did. Had we taken the time, we would be talking policy.

    Holy Luther Burbank, Batman!

    True words of wisdom!

    Not an MI-IndependentGOProudER kitchen sink rant against everything that might stick to the wall. Not a more measured but still strident NO declaration by Franco 2. Not an equivocating “there’s a need for change, but Obama must be stopped” discourse from Sinz.

    A realization that this really is all about policy … and politics. Jonathan Bernstein framed it last weekend while discussing where Obama is trying to lead the country:

    And, from there, to the biggest point of all, only suggested once in these texts, but powerful if it is what Obama really believes. From the bill-signing:

    We are a nation that faces its challenges and accepts its responsibilities. We are a nation that does what is hard. What is necessary. What is right. Here, in this country, we shape our own destiny. That is what we do. That is who we are. That is what makes us the United States of America.

    This is, really, a very strong claim. What Obama is saying here is that politics, rightly understood, is the very core of what makes this nation a nation. Not individualism, not religiosity, and certainly not ethnicity or the land itself, but politics.

    There are a lot of very serious issues that still need dealt with – and even the Healthcare Bill is far from perfect. If the Republicans focus less on screaming RINOs! and LIBERAL MSM! and ACORN! and accept that Obama is a legitimate President, and that Democrats have a legitimate majority, and that we’re going to be a lot better off if moderate Repubs craft legislation with moderate Dems rather than joining with extremist Repubs to make the substantive debate on any measure an intramural affair among the Democratic legislators, we’ll have a lot better chance of coming up with sustainable policies to address those issues.

    There are a lot of issues I’m no more anxious to have Dennis Kucinich taking the lead on as I am the more extreme members of the Republican Caucus. And when one party has too strong a hold on power, corruption has too easy a path. We need Republicans who are partners in governance, rather than Republicans for whom the legislative process is one long campaign to regain power by making it seem as if Congress is impotent under Democrats.

    Particularly since the latter strategy has clearly failed.

  • Chekote

    “there’s a need for change, but Obama must be stopped” discourse from Sinz.

    The reality is that Obama cannot be stopped until the GOP reforms itself and regains credibility in the eyes of the independent voter. Frankly, I don’t want the GOP to win until I am sure that we won’t get a repeat of the last performance.

  • balconesfault

    Chekote: The reality is that Obama cannot be stopped until the GOP reforms itself and regains credibility in the eyes of the independent voter. Frankly, I don’t want the GOP to win until I am sure that we won’t get a repeat of the last performance.

    Again, thank you. It’s clear that the GOP still hasn’t internalized the lessons of the Bush Presidency. And that is where imo Frum is providing a service, by actually having a prominent conservative based forum where those lessons can be hashed out.

  • Chekote

    In Defense of Sarah Palin by Norman Podhoretz

    *Sigh*

  • ottovbvs

    …..In support of my comments at 10.08 and the general thrust of Greene’s piece…….particularly note the leadership question and who is perceived to be doing the reaching out amongst independants (even Republican leaning ones!!)

    WaPo Poll results.

    He understands problems of people like you. 56 Yes 43 No

    He is a strong leader. 65 Yes 33 No

    He has brought needed change to Washington. 54 Yes 44 No

    He is willing to listen to different points of view. 68 Yes 31 No

  • ottovbvs

    Chekote // Mar 29, 2010 at 11:23 am

    ……..Chek….I just flipped and read this and it’s f****** mind boggling isn’t it…..his conclusion that he’d rather be ruled the tea party than the Dem party……. and have Palin in the oval office rather than Obama

  • rbottoms

    MOSCOW — Female suicide bombers blew themselves up Monday in twin attacks on Moscow subway stations packed with rush-hour passengers, killing at least 38 people and wounding more than 60, officials said. The carnage blamed on rebels from the Caucasus region follows the killings of several high-profile Islamic militant leaders there.

    The blasts come six years after Islamic separatists from the southern Russian region carried out a pair of deadly Moscow subway strikes and raise concerns that the war has once again come to the capital, amid militants’ warnings of a renewed determination to push their fight.

    These militia idiots have been running around in the woods since 1992. They’re fanatics, and fanatics either fizzle out of take it to the next level, like Oklahoma City.

    Dozens of these fools went on “high alert” over the weekend, encouraged in part by the home-bound, morbidly obese, SSI drawing wanna-be revolutionary Mike Vanderboegh. They’re all on the lookout for the next Waco or Ruby Ridge, though it seems the Hutaree are so wacked out even the militia nuts are put off by them.

    These violent, anti-immigrant, racist thugs have found a home with the teabaggers and it will lead to an attack as horrific as the Moscow subway bombing . The GOP would do well to run screaming from this nuts, instead we get qualified denials and weasel words.

    Our next McVeigh is already out there.

  • FormerConservative

    Your statement: “The program is still a big government takeover of the healthcare industry…” is pure B.S. Virtually all fair minded analysts agree that this reform package is exactly NOT that. The government will not be running the insurance companies, hospitals or health care providers. A single payer system would be a “government takeover”. Any statement or premise that suggest this reform is a government takeover is just pure bunk. You will not win people over to your side by lying to them!

    The party of HELL NO has had ample opportunity to lead on this issue. After the failed Clinton attempt on reform, the HELL NO’s took control of both houses of congress and the presidency. They did not lead on the real problems and challenges with escalating costs and declining access to coverage. However, they did manage to blow a hole in the budget by enacting an unpaid for entitlement on prescription drugs. Then, when the Dems took over, The HELL NO’s refused any meaningful constructive engagement. When you say that this is a government take over, what you are really saying is that you are still in the Denial and Anger phases of recovery. You are correct in your conclusion, the HELL NO’s are not going to be able to use this as a lever to victory in November.

    How many campaign ads do think we are going to see this election season showing an adoring crowd chanting “Yes we can” juxtaposed to an angry man screeming at the top of his lungs “Hell no you can’t.” You will need solutions and a positive message before you will attain electoral success. Sorry!

  • agentprovocateur

    We now have a prediction that the GOP will win big in November based on the passage of HCR. Note, this is from the same amazing soothsayer who told us the week before the legislation passed that there was no way that it would ever get by the supposedly clever Republicans and their tactics. I guess that didn’t turn out to well, huh? Oh, and trashing violent, nasty people who claim to speak for Jesus is not the same as trashing Jesus. Spread the word.

  • SpartacusIsNotDead

    Sinz wrote: “The best argument against it is that costs are going to rise sharply, and premiums are going to rise sharply . . . Has RomneyCare controlled costs? NO. My own BlueCross premium, which is already the highest BlueCross premium in the nation, was just raised by 44%.”

    There are significant differences between RomneyCare and ObamaCare regarding cost controls. Many people on FF have posted links to the cost control measures in HCR. As usual, you’ve chosen to ignore factst that don’t fit your ideological prison.

    Moreover, the rise in your own premiums are not the result of RomneyCare. Premiums are going up all over the country. California does not have RomneyCare and, unlike MA, CA allows insurers to deny coverage due to pre-existing conditions. Yet, many people in CA are getting premium increases of up to 40%. Sorry, but you’ll have to find another scapegoat.

    Another inconvenient fact for you is that the CBO determined that premiums under ObamaCare will be about 15% lower than they would be without reform.

    I know you fashion yourself as being analytical, but it doesn’t seem as if you ever analyze any facts.

  • sinz54

    SpartacusIsNotDead:

    The CBO’s estimates are based on cuts to Medicare Advantage and cuts to the “doc fix” going into effect on schedule. They will not be. Trust me.

    The problem with CBO estimates is that they assume that the projected schedule of cuts and spending goes ahead as planned. They can’t consider the possibility that a new Congress or a new Administration will diddle with those plans at some point in the future. But you and I know that’s going to happen.

    MA’s health insurance premiums were already the highest in the nation before the latest premium increase went into effect. So we continue to outpace CA premiums by a wide margin. Here in MA, a single person with no dependents besides himself pays over $8,000 a year. What’s it like in CA?

    I’m well aware of things in ObamaCare that were included in hopes that might, just might, have a positive impact on costs. One of them, I had suggested myself: Automating hospital record keeping. But there isn’t a single costing model, AFAIK, that shows that they will. They’re all experimental, and nobody knows whether they will work.

    I had suggested automating hospital record keeping regardless of whether ObamaCare passed. But I couldn’t point to any reliable studies. All I had to go on was anecdotal evidence.

  • ottovbvs

    SpartacusIsNotDead // Mar 29, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    “I know you fashion yourself as being analytical, but it doesn’t seem as if you ever analyze any facts.”

    …..Sinz while not a complete loon, and actually possessing a fair grasp of the facts, is basically married to a set of beliefs which he has to justify with often completely irrational explanations…..he came up with a complete beaut yesterday when he suggested the decline of the British empire was due to their need to fund social expenditures which left nothing over the three ocean fleet, vast army and other requirements that would have been necessary to hold onto India and the rest of the empire…….no matter that if they hadn’t spent a cent on social programs that there still wouldn’t have been sufficient funds for such programs…..and it’s the same with his pretzelesque logic on healthcare……will the CBO forecast hold…..who knows…..what I do know is that this is not all set in amber….the admin will adjust course when it has to…..For example I don’t think for a moment that Sinz’s greatest dread the public option (for which he constantly but inadvertently makes a case) has gone away

  • rbottoms

    After I became disabled thanks to congestive heart failure some years ago, I tried to find something to do that would allow me to remain active. Because I had a knowledge of history and a gift for telling stories, I was asked to help with a living history program at Turkey Creek Nature Preserve.

    I was informed this morning that the park must “distance itself” from me. These orders came from Taylor’s higher ups at BSC, so I don’t blame him. He obviously hated doing it.

    So, I’m fired from a job I never took a dime for.

    It was perfectly predictable and I am actually amazed the collectivist academics took so long.

    Still, it hurts.

    It hurts a lot.

    Wah. All he did was advocate for people to smash in the windows of Democratic office holders and rail about a coming civil war. Who would have thought that would have adverse consequences?

  • SpartacusIsNotDead

    Sinz wrote: “The CBO’s estimates are based on cuts to Medicare Advantage and cuts to the “doc fix” going into effect on schedule. They will not be. Trust me . . . The problem with CBO estimates is that they assume that the projected schedule of cuts and spending goes ahead as planned.”

    You are wrong. The CBO’s deficit estimates are based on cuts to MA (but not the doc fix). The CBO’s estimates regarding lower premiums, however, are not based on these things.

    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10781/11-30-Premiums.pdf

  • SpartacusIsNotDead

    ottovbvs wrote: “Sinz while not a complete loon, and actually possessing a fair grasp of the facts, is basically married to a set of beliefs which he has to justify with often completely irrational explanations . . . ”

    Ok, not a complete loon. But what kind of person remains married to a set of beliefs that can be justified only with irrational explanations?

    The fact that he’s not a complete loon says more about how badly the standard for rational thought and intellectual honesty has been lowered by conservatives than it says about his capacity to form rational conclusions based on observable facts. His intellectual contributions here are significantly superior to most of his fellow conservatives’ contributions.

  • ottovbvs

    SpartacusIsNotDead // Mar 29, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    “The fact that he’s not a complete loon says more about how badly the standard for rational thought and intellectual honesty has been lowered by conservatives than it says about his capacity to form rational conclusions based on observable facts. His intellectual contributions here are significantly superior to most of his fellow conservatives’ contributions.”

    …..basically I agree which as I said in another piece I find him much more unsettling than the loonies….but to be fair we all rationalize sometimes, but in my book a vote for McCain/Palin said a lot about both the powerful pull of tribalism on an individual and on that individual’s ability to make sound qualitative judgements.

  • Independent

    Arthur Greene, who is probably one of DavidF’s interns from his former AEI days –given the lack of depth and self-serving nature of the earlier post– misses the boat, trees and forest.

    Republicans aren’t planning on riding to E-victory on Obama sCare alone… oh sure, the back room deals, the underhanded bribing, the highly partisan nature, the sell outs, the arm twisting and wheeling-dealing will be an issue for voters because it underscores the Culture of Corruption that permeates the Democrat Party and the Chicago Thug & Mug Machine.

    If you think, Arthur, that voters are going to be thrilled with Obama sCare come E-day 2010, then you need to get some fresh air. There are a hundred deep cuts that will shatter the myth you’re proposing here: for instance, just today, many Forutne 500 and US Chamber members came out to explain they have to write-down over $14b in losses attributable to Obama sCare’s increased taxation that goes into effect immediately for them –and that means decreased earnings, loss of benefits for some seniors, higher taxes, bad news for this “great” One True Choice of Obama sCare that was supposed to “fix” everything and is now showing a bevy of untoward consequences the Obami never factored in.

    But untoward consequences, a major one leaked each week, will offset any gain the Democrats can make in spinning the massive plan as some benefit boon for America. Smooth talking snakeoil’s salesmen all worry about the day that someone actually tries their potion –because that’s the end of sales. Proof is truth.

    And that’s just with Obama sCare. We’ve got the Obama-driven bankruptcy of Soc Security to talk endlessly about. We’ve got skyrocketing foreclosures to talk about and Obama’s failure to craft even a moderate plan to address the problem. we’ve got an endless jobless faked recovery. We’ve got a metrosexual prez living large in Air Force One and spending political capital where it makes no positive effect… like Virginia’s governor race, NJ governor’s race, Mass’s Senate race… well, you get the point.

    We’ve got Iran ready to start construction on two MORE nuke enrichment facilities and the Obami running around trying to just find Brazil on the UN map to speak with someone there about sanctions or something… it’s like keystone cops have taken over foreign affairs.

    Wasn’t that why LyinJoeBiden was on the ticket –he was Mr Foreign Affairs supposedly. Now, all he does is stand up comedy in the East Room dropping the F-bomb for the prezzie.

    And on and on it goes.

    Riding Obama sCare to Victory should include some assessment of all the untoward consequences those Democrat stooges pressed without a gameplan.

    But do that, we’d need some balance on FF.

    And some honesty from the diarists like Arthur Greene. Come out, come out whoever you are.

  • balconesfault

    We’ve got a metrosexual prez living large in Air Force One

    Meow!

  • Independent

    Sorry B’fault, nothing catlike in our home. We’re dog guys. Two big yellow labs named “Truth” and “Honor”. They go with our family, everywhere.

  • SFTor1

    Many conservatives could experience relief with some inexpensive over-the-counter heartburn medicine. Independent, off to Walgreens you go.

    Once you stop burping acid Obama won’t look like the devil anymore.

  • Go Dog Go!

    You folks can complain all you want about Obama, and you can call him all the bad names in the book. But until you start studying the polling data and accept that his accomplishments are gaining steam, the party will never fix what’s wrong:

    A total strategic reorganization is needed. The lurch to the right has come at the expense of conservative intellectualism, the concrete policy ideas that once underlaid an increasingly empty ideology that the fringe touts. Without that centrist foundation, and the solutions and pragmatism they bring to the table, the broader non-wingnut base of voters will not join up.

    If the current guise of the GOP continues, with social conservatives driving the young away and with minority voters becoming the driving force, the Republican Party will be rudderless and adrift for a generation.

  • Independent

    Not to over-emphasize reality for the “1 inch deep, 1 mile wide” FrumBot crew, but you were all crowing on Monday how the Obami was now showing improved polling… he was up, as some here tried hard to claim, at least 8 points!

    Your line: America loves Obama sCare and our Messiah. Republicans are doomed!

    Even FF fake-named “Arthur Greene” jumped the shark and tried to sell the newest snake oil.

    Guess what? Gallup says not so fast. In fact, three days after “All glory let loose from the Heavens” and NancyP’s Big Gavel crew marching up the steps of the Capitol, turns out that Americans still don’t like Obama sCare.

    Obama Messiah’s polling has settled back down despite attempts to lecture America about its merits in front of hand-picked adoring Democrat crowds… and a jump to Afghanistan to do some Big Hugs Heal All diplomacy with ACORN’s greatest gift to Obama, Karzai the Corrupt… Obama’s numbers remain in the pits. He’s only 2 points away from his all time low in approval ratings.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35162.html

    “The most prominent political prognosticator who predicted a post-reform bump for Obama was President Bill Clinton – who told reporters last year that Obama would add 10 points to his approval rating “the minute health reform passed.”

    But Obama’s approval in the Gallup daily tracking poll stands at 48 percent – near his all-time low of 46 percent in the three-day rolling average. Near the time of passage, Obama ticked up to 50 percent in the poll.

    “People thought Obama might get a significant uptick,” said Frank Newport of the Gallup Poll. “Obama’s approval seems to have moved up a few points during and slightly after passage. Then it fell back down again.”

    Ouch, the American voter can be so fickle. Or, maybe the Obami are 1 inch deep, 1 mile wide.

  • balconesfault

    ACORN’s greatest gift to Obama, Karzai the Corrupt

    Do you have some kind of random verbage generator that writes this stuff for you?

  • Independent

    Just the truth, B’fault. ACORN should open an office in Kabul; afterall , it’s their kind of town and political environment.

    Karzai the Corrupt and Obama Messiah can go worship in Mecca; two muslim peas in the same pod.

  • balconesfault

    Confirmed.

  • Independent

    “Riding Obama sCare to Victory” gets a statistical fact-check proof boost today –

    According to Rasmussen:

    “Less than a week after President Obama signed the health care reform bill into law, more voters than ever say he is governing like a partisan Democrat.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 56% of likely voters believe the president is governing like a partisan Democrat, up three points over the past month and the highest level measured since he took office in January 2009. ”

    Damn, that’s gotta hurt the farLeft democrat FrumBots.

    Plus, the news doesn’t get any better for the Team Selling Snake Oil FrumBots–

    “One week after the House of Representatives passed the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats, 54% of the nation’s likely voters still favor repealing the new law.”

    Wait! With all that hyperdrive, cheering crowded media events of staged Democrats adoring the One True Choice?? How could that be… 54% in favor of repeal? That’s gotta be down from a higher, pre-passage number… it has to be!

    Nope. “Those figures are virtually unchanged from last week.”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/march_2010/health_care_law

    Well, it’s all because of those loonie farRight Tea Partiers… no one is listening to them, right?

    Nope. “In official Washington, some consider the Tea Party movement a fringe element in society, but voters across the nation feel closer to the Tea Party movement than they do to Congress.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 52% of U.S. voters believe the average member of the Tea Party movement has a better understanding of the issues facing America today than the average member of Congress.”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2010/most_say_tea_party_has_better_understanding_of_issues_than_congress

    Some days it doesn’t pay to get out of bed if you’re a FrumBot fighting reality at every turn.

  • Independent

    B’fault, “confirmed”. I’m glad you can set aside the normal partisan blinders you employ here and over at the Daily Kos.

    Thanks for the agreement –your confirmation shows you a better, more honest FrumBot than the echo-chambered pals you hang with. sarcasm off.

  • balconesfault

    B’fault, “confirmed”. I’m glad you can set aside the normal partisan blinders you employ here and over at the Daily Kos.

    Simply confirmed that you’re a random comment generator.

    Carry on, Independent-Bot!

  • Independent

    yeah, B’fault… the sarcasm button was turned off. I knew what you meant… ankle-biting as it may only be… it’s all you got left most days.

  • balconesfault

    ankle-biting as it may only be…

    ACORN’s greatest gift to Obama, Karzai the Corrupt

    lol – your lack of self-awareness never fails to amuse.

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