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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/why-is-the-white-house-attacking-fox/comment-page-2#comment-69571</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conservative-intellectual:  &lt;blockquote&gt; I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Considering global warming a myth is the &quot;very basis of conservatism&quot;???

When did politicizing climatology become part of conservatism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conservative-intellectual:<br />
<blockquote> I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. </p></blockquote>
<p>Considering global warming a myth is the &#8220;very basis of conservatism&#8221;???</p>
<p>When did politicizing climatology become part of conservatism?</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/why-is-the-white-house-attacking-fox/comment-page-2#comment-69570</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>balconesfault: &lt;blockquote&gt; It is hard to change the tone of a discussion when all your opponent wants to do is to scream back at you. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
The President of the United States works for the American people.

We have the right to scream at him.
He does not have the right to scream at us.

Because he works for us.

You can be chewed out by your boss.
But if you start chewing out your boss,
expect to be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>balconesfault:<br />
<blockquote> It is hard to change the tone of a discussion when all your opponent wants to do is to scream back at you. </p></blockquote>
<p>The President of the United States works for the American people.</p>
<p>We have the right to scream at him.<br />
He does not have the right to scream at us.</p>
<p>Because he works for us.</p>
<p>You can be chewed out by your boss.<br />
But if you start chewing out your boss,<br />
expect to be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;the fox all star panel talks about obama’s war against insurance companies&lt;/b&gt;

Ahh - the war against insurance companies.

And now the Democrats are threatening big insurance with the prospect of removing their Anti-Trust exemption.

I look forward to the Republicans being the party of wanting big insurance continuing to have their Anti-Trust exemption over the next 4-6 years, as insurance premiums increase by 50% and more and more companies start dropping employee insurance benefits as being too expensive to maintain.

Barroom brawling works until you run into an opponent who knows what they&#039;re doing, and isn&#039;t afraid of you.  Increasingly it looks like Obama is that opponent, and Republicans aren&#039;t figuring out that brawling won&#039;t cut it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>the fox all star panel talks about obama’s war against insurance companies</b></p>
<p>Ahh &#8211; the war against insurance companies.</p>
<p>And now the Democrats are threatening big insurance with the prospect of removing their Anti-Trust exemption.</p>
<p>I look forward to the Republicans being the party of wanting big insurance continuing to have their Anti-Trust exemption over the next 4-6 years, as insurance premiums increase by 50% and more and more companies start dropping employee insurance benefits as being too expensive to maintain.</p>
<p>Barroom brawling works until you run into an opponent who knows what they&#8217;re doing, and isn&#8217;t afraid of you.  Increasingly it looks like Obama is that opponent, and Republicans aren&#8217;t figuring out that brawling won&#8217;t cut it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/why-is-the-white-house-attacking-fox/comment-page-2#comment-69110</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinz:  &lt;b&gt;Obama promised to “change the tone in Washington.”&lt;/b&gt;

It is hard to change the tone of a discussion when all your opponent wants to do is to scream back at you.

Eventually, one&#039;s patience wanes.  Worse yet, people start labeling you as ineffectual and wimpy for taking the abuse without fighting back, and even your supporters start to soften on their support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinz:  <b>Obama promised to “change the tone in Washington.”</b></p>
<p>It is hard to change the tone of a discussion when all your opponent wants to do is to scream back at you.</p>
<p>Eventually, one&#8217;s patience wanes.  Worse yet, people start labeling you as ineffectual and wimpy for taking the abuse without fighting back, and even your supporters start to soften on their support.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Along the same lines — Obama is willing to talk with Castro, Ahmedinijad, and Kim Jong-Il but evidently finds it hard to have a conversation with Fox News??? &lt;/b&gt;

When you find us the interview that Bush conducted with the NY Times between 2000 and 2009, we can consider this a serious criticism.

And yet - the NY Times was one of the papers that most publicized the fraudulent Whitewater claims ... can you point out the investigation into a sitting Republican President that Fox has ever pushed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Along the same lines — Obama is willing to talk with Castro, Ahmedinijad, and Kim Jong-Il but evidently finds it hard to have a conversation with Fox News??? </b></p>
<p>When you find us the interview that Bush conducted with the NY Times between 2000 and 2009, we can consider this a serious criticism.</p>
<p>And yet &#8211; the NY Times was one of the papers that most publicized the fraudulent Whitewater claims &#8230; can you point out the investigation into a sitting Republican President that Fox has ever pushed?</p>
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		<title>By: johnmarzan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fox all star panel talks about obama&#039;s war against insurance companies, foxnews and the US chamber of commerce... aka the enemies of the state.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568923,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fox all star panel talks about obama&#8217;s war against insurance companies, foxnews and the US chamber of commerce&#8230; aka the enemies of the state.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568923,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568923,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Intellectual</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Intellectual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.


I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.</p>
<p>I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ireign // Oct 21, 2009 at 6:07 pm 
&quot;LFC, I think you should ask your community college for your tuition back since you obviously didn’t learn anything&quot;

........Obama&#039;s outflanking you again........you obviously haven&#039;t yet learned to recognize it.....so the process will continue......how unfortunate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ireign // Oct 21, 2009 at 6:07 pm<br />
&#8220;LFC, I think you should ask your community college for your tuition back since you obviously didn’t learn anything&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;..Obama&#8217;s outflanking you again&#8230;&#8230;..you obviously haven&#8217;t yet learned to recognize it&#8230;..so the process will continue&#8230;&#8230;how unfortunate</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sinz54 // Oct 21, 2009 at 5:24 pm 

ottovbs:

&quot;When he was campaigning in 2008,
Obama promised to “change the tone in Washington.”

.........Sinz......there have been a host of polls on this and by large margins Obama is perceived to have made an effort to reach out to the Republicans while they are perceived as being obstructionist and nutty most of the time........add in the fact that on a personal level he&#039;s very well liked rather as Reagan was by many democrats.......in other words the Republicans are the perceived bad guys in this.......why else do you think they are donw at 20% id?........Obama is Mr Nice Guy.....the Republicans (Limbaugh, Beck, Bachmann, Steele, Palin, Gingrich et al) are the nuts.....one day you may get it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sinz54 // Oct 21, 2009 at 5:24 pm </p>
<p>ottovbs:</p>
<p>&#8220;When he was campaigning in 2008,<br />
Obama promised to “change the tone in Washington.”</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Sinz&#8230;&#8230;there have been a host of polls on this and by large margins Obama is perceived to have made an effort to reach out to the Republicans while they are perceived as being obstructionist and nutty most of the time&#8230;&#8230;..add in the fact that on a personal level he&#8217;s very well liked rather as Reagan was by many democrats&#8230;&#8230;.in other words the Republicans are the perceived bad guys in this&#8230;&#8230;.why else do you think they are donw at 20% id?&#8230;&#8230;..Obama is Mr Nice Guy&#8230;..the Republicans (Limbaugh, Beck, Bachmann, Steele, Palin, Gingrich et al) are the nuts&#8230;..one day you may get it!</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ottovbs:

When he was campaigning in 2008,
Obama promised to &quot;change the tone in Washington.&quot;
Whatever happened to that?

Tens of millions of Americans voted for Obama because they were sick of the rabid partisanship, and Obama acted like someone who would be beyond that and try to bring us together.

Evidently, Obama lied through his teeth.  He&#039;s a rabid partisan doing everything he can to stick it to his domestic political opponents, while his rabid supporters are gleeful and high-fiving one another.  

I figured as much.  On the left-wing blogs like HuffPo, all the lefties were saying to each other &quot;Obama has to sound conciliatory to get elected--but just wait till after he&#039;s inaugurated!&quot;

So much for &quot;changing the tone in Washington.&quot;
All lies.
And you&#039;re a willing part of it.

You better hope you guys never lose an election again.
Payback&#039;s a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ottovbs:</p>
<p>When he was campaigning in 2008,<br />
Obama promised to &#8220;change the tone in Washington.&#8221;<br />
Whatever happened to that?</p>
<p>Tens of millions of Americans voted for Obama because they were sick of the rabid partisanship, and Obama acted like someone who would be beyond that and try to bring us together.</p>
<p>Evidently, Obama lied through his teeth.  He&#8217;s a rabid partisan doing everything he can to stick it to his domestic political opponents, while his rabid supporters are gleeful and high-fiving one another.  </p>
<p>I figured as much.  On the left-wing blogs like HuffPo, all the lefties were saying to each other &#8220;Obama has to sound conciliatory to get elected&#8211;but just wait till after he&#8217;s inaugurated!&#8221;</p>
<p>So much for &#8220;changing the tone in Washington.&#8221;<br />
All lies.<br />
And you&#8217;re a willing part of it.</p>
<p>You better hope you guys never lose an election again.<br />
Payback&#8217;s a bitch.</p>
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