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		<title>By: mickster99</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-was-cameron-thinking-in-turkey/comment-page-2#comment-132519</link>
		<dc:creator>mickster99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adamtglass, watusie: how refreshing to see a Frum post dominated with comments by the insipid ad hominem exchange between a couple of world class dim bulbs.</description>
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		<title>By: canuckistani</title>
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		<dc:creator>canuckistani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EU needs an enema.
Witnessing the sunbelt&#039;s spectacular failures with Germany once again showing she has the mojo makes seeing Germany and GB splitting away on an economic level more likely. GB never took the euro and Germans are probably wondering how they get the Mark back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EU needs an enema.<br />
Witnessing the sunbelt&#8217;s spectacular failures with Germany once again showing she has the mojo makes seeing Germany and GB splitting away on an economic level more likely. GB never took the euro and Germans are probably wondering how they get the Mark back.</p>
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		<title>By: msmilack</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmilack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adamtglass
Watusie

Your fighting is making me feel a little embarrassed. There are people on the blog that agree with each of you even if you don&#039;t agree with each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adamtglass<br />
Watusie</p>
<p>Your fighting is making me feel a little embarrassed. There are people on the blog that agree with each of you even if you don&#8217;t agree with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Watusie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watusie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adamtglass apparently believes that Glenn Miller, Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, Lord Lucan and Harold Holt are all alive.</description>
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		<title>By: msmilack</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmilack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Is it possible (albeit a simpler explanation) that Cameron meant what he said? I&#039;m not sure why you and other conservatives have such a difficult time accepting the fact that there is a different point of view held by of one of your own, especially by a person who you and others so recently lauded (a few days ago) as the new role model for conservative government. It is such a contradiction that I really think it warrants study and self-examination.

David, I deeply respect your mind even when we disagree on policy; normally, I can follow your logic from point A all the way to the conclusion; but on this subject, I cannot. I believe that if you looked at the same set of facts applied to any other two countries in the world, you would come out with a different conclusion. 

Parenthetically -- and this relates to something you wrote yesterday not today but it still applies -- I worry when I read the word &quot;evil&quot; to describe another country -- any other country. Perhaps you don&#039;t realize this because it has become acceptable to use that word but the word &quot;evil&quot; shuts out every possibility of negotiation. In life, people change their minds and in international relations, people can also change their minds -- unless they are evil.  But who decides that? When people are evil, they do not change; in fact, the word &quot;evil&quot; is an invitation to eliminate, a way to diminish and make less than human. It was the principle of slavery, the principle of apartheid, the principle of every government that has sought to eliminate a segment of the population, to call the targets subhuman or evil. So it is a very powerful and sometimes dangerous word to use.

David, I don&#039;t know if you can hear me but  I write this with the utmost respect because it is such an important subject. And I&#039;m not just speaking to you but to the others who share your point of view. 

I wish the Israeli government could elect different people to run these operations. Netanyahu is trying to do the right thing but the right wing party of A. Leiberman will not allow him to do so. They would rather scorch the earth and see Israel destroyed. I want to see Israel survive.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Is it possible (albeit a simpler explanation) that Cameron meant what he said? I&#8217;m not sure why you and other conservatives have such a difficult time accepting the fact that there is a different point of view held by of one of your own, especially by a person who you and others so recently lauded (a few days ago) as the new role model for conservative government. It is such a contradiction that I really think it warrants study and self-examination.</p>
<p>David, I deeply respect your mind even when we disagree on policy; normally, I can follow your logic from point A all the way to the conclusion; but on this subject, I cannot. I believe that if you looked at the same set of facts applied to any other two countries in the world, you would come out with a different conclusion. </p>
<p>Parenthetically &#8212; and this relates to something you wrote yesterday not today but it still applies &#8212; I worry when I read the word &#8220;evil&#8221; to describe another country &#8212; any other country. Perhaps you don&#8217;t realize this because it has become acceptable to use that word but the word &#8220;evil&#8221; shuts out every possibility of negotiation. In life, people change their minds and in international relations, people can also change their minds &#8212; unless they are evil.  But who decides that? When people are evil, they do not change; in fact, the word &#8220;evil&#8221; is an invitation to eliminate, a way to diminish and make less than human. It was the principle of slavery, the principle of apartheid, the principle of every government that has sought to eliminate a segment of the population, to call the targets subhuman or evil. So it is a very powerful and sometimes dangerous word to use.</p>
<p>David, I don&#8217;t know if you can hear me but  I write this with the utmost respect because it is such an important subject. And I&#8217;m not just speaking to you but to the others who share your point of view. </p>
<p>I wish the Israeli government could elect different people to run these operations. Netanyahu is trying to do the right thing but the right wing party of A. Leiberman will not allow him to do so. They would rather scorch the earth and see Israel destroyed. I want to see Israel survive.</p>
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		<title>By: adamtglass</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I think regarding Dubai blaming Mossad for the assassination:

to quote Christopher Hitchens
WHAT CAN BE ASSERTED WITHOUT PROOF CAN BE DISMISSED WITHOUT PROOF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I think regarding Dubai blaming Mossad for the assassination:</p>
<p>to quote Christopher Hitchens<br />
WHAT CAN BE ASSERTED WITHOUT PROOF CAN BE DISMISSED WITHOUT PROOF.</p>
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		<title>By: jakester</title>
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		<dc:creator>jakester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watusie 
I agree, what Israel did in Dubai was contemptible and unjust. For the record, I hate Hamas but Israel seems to be willing to sink lower than her adversaries and compromise allies too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watusie<br />
I agree, what Israel did in Dubai was contemptible and unjust. For the record, I hate Hamas but Israel seems to be willing to sink lower than her adversaries and compromise allies too.</p>
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		<title>By: adamtglass</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No you are more used to talking with a group that all agree and never question anything...good move.
My arguments though you have no answers to rebut them are not illogical.
Again you go to name calling rather than discussion.
I&#039;ll try it your way
Watusie you are only interested in your truth, not the actual truth.
You don&#039;t take on a single statement with a logical refutation.
You are pathetic and weak and I am embarrassed for you.
I am sure though that you are used to wasting plenty of time, you just don&#039;t know it.
I&#039;d say any time you engage your maladapted brain you are wasting your time.
Now that I have made insults those will be responded to, but not my points.
Watusie go to a site with high school children and work on your dialectical skills.
Then go crawl back under that rock.
Oh, see how foolish name calling appears.
I&#039;d much rather a match of wits, but you are not unarmed just clueless.
I pray for you...oh big man in the sky...please removeth the stick from the posterior....
See I too know how to write like a complete ass, so your not that special.
I&#039;ll try to mesh your DNA with an elephants so you have a memory and some thicker skin so you can actually debate points and not make ad hominem attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you are more used to talking with a group that all agree and never question anything&#8230;good move.<br />
My arguments though you have no answers to rebut them are not illogical.<br />
Again you go to name calling rather than discussion.<br />
I&#8217;ll try it your way<br />
Watusie you are only interested in your truth, not the actual truth.<br />
You don&#8217;t take on a single statement with a logical refutation.<br />
You are pathetic and weak and I am embarrassed for you.<br />
I am sure though that you are used to wasting plenty of time, you just don&#8217;t know it.<br />
I&#8217;d say any time you engage your maladapted brain you are wasting your time.<br />
Now that I have made insults those will be responded to, but not my points.<br />
Watusie go to a site with high school children and work on your dialectical skills.<br />
Then go crawl back under that rock.<br />
Oh, see how foolish name calling appears.<br />
I&#8217;d much rather a match of wits, but you are not unarmed just clueless.<br />
I pray for you&#8230;oh big man in the sky&#8230;please removeth the stick from the posterior&#8230;.<br />
See I too know how to write like a complete ass, so your not that special.<br />
I&#8217;ll try to mesh your DNA with an elephants so you have a memory and some thicker skin so you can actually debate points and not make ad hominem attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Watusie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watusie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I am not used to is wasting my time in a discussion with someone who is happy to make illogical and preposterous arguments in order to deflect attention from realities he finds uncomfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I am not used to is wasting my time in a discussion with someone who is happy to make illogical and preposterous arguments in order to deflect attention from realities he finds uncomfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: adamtglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>adamtglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I never claim they are exactly the same...
One must assume Watusie has never had a debate with someone whom he disagrees with as he just repeats the same thing again and again never address a single question asked by the other side.

Watusie&#039;s assumptions based on?:

Once again it seems all one has to do to get a UK passport is ask and marry a Brit...wow that sure sounds really easy....well since Watusie keeps saying it that must be the only thing requires.

Mossad is guilty beyond doubt for the assassination in Dubai.
A verdict the Dubai police came up with in less than 24 hours. And since they knew who it was they didn&#039;t need to investigate further.
As we all know, Israel is the only country that has issues with Hamas.
Certainly Eqypt and Saudi Arabia love Hamas...oh they don&#039;t..well Jordan must..they don&#039;t
But thanks to Watusie&#039;s crack investigating we all know it is Mossad.

interesting assumptions all based in absolute ether

oh you can also say about adamtglass that he is really really goood loooking...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I never claim they are exactly the same&#8230;<br />
One must assume Watusie has never had a debate with someone whom he disagrees with as he just repeats the same thing again and again never address a single question asked by the other side.</p>
<p>Watusie&#8217;s assumptions based on?:</p>
<p>Once again it seems all one has to do to get a UK passport is ask and marry a Brit&#8230;wow that sure sounds really easy&#8230;.well since Watusie keeps saying it that must be the only thing requires.</p>
<p>Mossad is guilty beyond doubt for the assassination in Dubai.<br />
A verdict the Dubai police came up with in less than 24 hours. And since they knew who it was they didn&#8217;t need to investigate further.<br />
As we all know, Israel is the only country that has issues with Hamas.<br />
Certainly Eqypt and Saudi Arabia love Hamas&#8230;oh they don&#8217;t..well Jordan must..they don&#8217;t<br />
But thanks to Watusie&#8217;s crack investigating we all know it is Mossad.</p>
<p>interesting assumptions all based in absolute ether</p>
<p>oh you can also say about adamtglass that he is really really goood loooking&#8230;</p>
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