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	<title>Comments on: What if We Win the Healthcare Fight?</title>
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		<title>By: LittleDEM</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-80676</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleDEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belatedly, a Thank You nonetheless for acknowledging that the status quo when it comes to healthcare is totally and utterly unacceptable.  I don&#039;t quite get why people still fail to see that fact.  It&#039;s like a train wreck in slow motion . . . It&#039;s still a train wreck in the end.

We need to solve this by deploying Healthcare Reform, ideally, in a bipartisan fashion.  But if need be, Democrats need to do the best they can without Republican support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belatedly, a Thank You nonetheless for acknowledging that the status quo when it comes to healthcare is totally and utterly unacceptable.  I don&#8217;t quite get why people still fail to see that fact.  It&#8217;s like a train wreck in slow motion . . . It&#8217;s still a train wreck in the end.</p>
<p>We need to solve this by deploying Healthcare Reform, ideally, in a bipartisan fashion.  But if need be, Democrats need to do the best they can without Republican support.</p>
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		<title>By: ShortsandPants - Taser of Wisdom: “Learning Frum Experience” Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShortsandPants - Taser of Wisdom: “Learning Frum Experience” Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To wit: What would it mean to “win” the healthcare fight? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Assorted links &#171; See the Invisible Hand</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-60697</link>
		<dc:creator>Assorted links &#171; See the Invisible Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Greg Clark fears the machines. 2. Can the health care fight be won? 3. The cover for SuperFreakonomics. 4. Waffle House weirdness (via Craig Newmark). 5. History of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Greg Clark fears the machines. 2. Can the health care fight be won? 3. The cover for SuperFreakonomics. 4. Waffle House weirdness (via Craig Newmark). 5. History of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Serious Times &#8230; &#171; Democratic Way</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-60302</link>
		<dc:creator>Serious Times &#8230; &#171; Democratic Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Times&#160;&#8230;  Posted on August 16, 2009 by Ben   In a recent post at newmajority.com David Frum, resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, questions the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Times&nbsp;&#8230;  Posted on August 16, 2009 by Ben   In a recent post at newmajority.com David Frum, resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, questions the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Crossed Pond &#187; Just Frustration</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-59820</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crossed Pond &#187; Just Frustration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commentators who are beginning to dip their toes into this sort of self-critique. For one, David Frum has a great post that ranks as the best movement navel-gazing I&#8217;ve read this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] commentators who are beginning to dip their toes into this sort of self-critique. For one, David Frum has a great post that ranks as the best movement navel-gazing I&#8217;ve read this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Lilley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Great Debate &#8211; Health Care Roundup</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-59743</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Lilley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Great Debate &#8211; Health Care Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to sway policy inside the Republican Party asks what his side should offer voters should they beat back Obama’s plan. “The problem is that if we do that… we’ll still have the present healthcare system. Meaning [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to sway policy inside the Republican Party asks what his side should offer voters should they beat back Obama’s plan. “The problem is that if we do that… we’ll still have the present healthcare system. Meaning [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 4 Points on Health Care - 2parse</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-59538</link>
		<dc:creator>4 Points on Health Care - 2parse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if the right &#8220;wins&#8221;? David Frum asks what it would mean for conservatives and right-wingers to &#8220;win&#8221; the health care fight. This Republican&#8217;s answer: We’ll have entrenched and perpetuated some of the most [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if the right &#8220;wins&#8221;? David Frum asks what it would mean for conservatives and right-wingers to &#8220;win&#8221; the health care fight. This Republican&#8217;s answer: We’ll have entrenched and perpetuated some of the most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Frum: how stupid can conservatives be, trying to win the health care fight? &#171; The TrogloPundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Frum: how stupid can conservatives be, trying to win the health care fight? &#171; The TrogloPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Frum: how stupid can conservatives be, trying to win the health care&#160;fight? David Frum asks the question: What if we win the healthcare fight? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Of Sarah Palin, Death Panels, Obamacare, and liberal bloggers - Blogs - NewsSpotz</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-59243</link>
		<dc:creator>Of Sarah Palin, Death Panels, Obamacare, and liberal bloggers - Blogs - NewsSpotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Frum made  a valid point last week. In defeating Obamacare we may end up creating an even more untenable situation. Playing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Frum made  a valid point last week. In defeating Obamacare we may end up creating an even more untenable situation. Playing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/what-if-we-win-the-healthcare-fight/comment-page-6#comment-59201</link>
		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....Actually this is a very astute piece by Frum......it&#039;s subtext is that if this situation is left unattended it&#039;s going to start spiralling out of control as more and more companies cut benefits or increase employees share of costs and this could turn into a much more aggressive program of reform.....I&#039;ve seen it suggested that this is the attitude of the insurance and pharma industries in the main....better to make a deal now and remain in the game rather than let the whole system breakdown and god knows what would come out of it.....the current system is sclerotic......it will be fixed by Obama or another at some point because it&#039;s unsustainable........this is what Obama and a lot of people see but not the far right and the foot soldiers they&#039;v indoctrinated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..Actually this is a very astute piece by Frum&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s subtext is that if this situation is left unattended it&#8217;s going to start spiralling out of control as more and more companies cut benefits or increase employees share of costs and this could turn into a much more aggressive program of reform&#8230;..I&#8217;ve seen it suggested that this is the attitude of the insurance and pharma industries in the main&#8230;.better to make a deal now and remain in the game rather than let the whole system breakdown and god knows what would come out of it&#8230;..the current system is sclerotic&#8230;&#8230;it will be fixed by Obama or another at some point because it&#8217;s unsustainable&#8230;&#8230;..this is what Obama and a lot of people see but not the far right and the foot soldiers they&#8217;v indoctrinated.</p>
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