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		<title>By: ktward</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-45244</link>
		<dc:creator>ktward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm, David, you assert that &quot;...Gibbs single[d] out this nomination as more sensitive than others, this debate as demanding more care than other debates..&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I read the Politico link you provided, and no where is there even a hint that Gibbs has suggested that the Sotomayor nom should be handled &#039;more sensitively&#039; than these others. Gibbs wasn&#039;t WH Press Sec back then for those SCOTUS noms, he is today, and today he&#039;s making suggestions on the rhetoric surrounding Sotomayor&#039;s nom.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where on earth did you come up with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm, David, you assert that &#8220;&#8230;Gibbs single[d] out this nomination as more sensitive than others, this debate as demanding more care than other debates..&#8221;</p>
<p>I read the Politico link you provided, and no where is there even a hint that Gibbs has suggested that the Sotomayor nom should be handled &#8216;more sensitively&#8217; than these others. Gibbs wasn&#8217;t WH Press Sec back then for those SCOTUS noms, he is today, and today he&#8217;s making suggestions on the rhetoric surrounding Sotomayor&#8217;s nom.</p>
<p>Where on earth did you come up with this?</p>
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		<title>By: ktward</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-47645</link>
		<dc:creator>ktward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sinz54, 4:34 pm:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;And we don&#039;t need a Justice whose &#039;empathy&#039; for the Gitmo detainees is going to get them sprung, to walk free--and kill more Americans.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Your equating of &#039;empathy&#039; as a perfectly legit quality of a SCOTUS nominee to the release/relocation of Gitmo detainees is misplaced paranoia.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interestingly, only in the Sotomayor nomination has the quality of human empathy in terms of a SCOTUS (or judicial) nominee become a partisan arrow.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samuel Alito:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6zdX_HCOGw&lt;br&gt;(forgive the partisan clip, truly, but it&#039;s the only one I could quickly find that includes Coburn&#039;s legit query)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clarence Thomas:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://mediamatters.org/research/200905260034&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Our current SCOTUS has already laid the groundwork necessitating Obama&#039;s responsibility to resolve the inarguably complex Gitmo detainees issue:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-gives-detainees-habeas-rights/&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;...kill more Americans.&quot; And how, precisely, might the current Gitmo detainees do that? For those that might transfer to US Supermax prisons, we&#039;ve no need to worry:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN28287891&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From MY State:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22900.html&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sinz, unsubstantiated fear-mongering does not a legitimate argument make.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Nor do we need a Justice who is going to decide that &#039;empathy&#039; for the Gitmo detainees requires that John Yoo and other Bush Administration lawyers be punished, merely for advocating legal opinions that the ACLU doesn&#039;t agree with--if said opinions resulted in mussing the hair of one or two of the Gitmo detainees.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this regard, SCOTUS is the least of your worries. If you really want to burst a blood vessel on this, worry about Congress, DOJ and OPR; that&#039;s where this particular  party will happen, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sinz54, 4:34 pm:</p>
<p>&#8220;And we don&#8217;t need a Justice whose &#8216;empathy&#8217; for the Gitmo detainees is going to get them sprung, to walk free&#8211;and kill more Americans.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) Your equating of &#8216;empathy&#8217; as a perfectly legit quality of a SCOTUS nominee to the release/relocation of Gitmo detainees is misplaced paranoia.</p>
<p>Interestingly, only in the Sotomayor nomination has the quality of human empathy in terms of a SCOTUS (or judicial) nominee become a partisan arrow.</p>
<p>Samuel Alito:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6zdX_HCOGw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6zdX_HCOGw</a><br />(forgive the partisan clip, truly, but it&#8217;s the only one I could quickly find that includes Coburn&#8217;s legit query)</p>
<p>Clarence Thomas:</p>
<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/research/200905260034" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/research/200905260034</a></p>
<p>2) Our current SCOTUS has already laid the groundwork necessitating Obama&#8217;s responsibility to resolve the inarguably complex Gitmo detainees issue:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-gives-detainees-habeas-rights/" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-gives-detainees-habeas-rights/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;kill more Americans.&#8221; And how, precisely, might the current Gitmo detainees do that? For those that might transfer to US Supermax prisons, we&#8217;ve no need to worry:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN28287891" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN28287891</a></p>
<p>From MY State:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22900.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22900.html</a></p>
<p>sinz, unsubstantiated fear-mongering does not a legitimate argument make.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nor do we need a Justice who is going to decide that &#8216;empathy&#8217; for the Gitmo detainees requires that John Yoo and other Bush Administration lawyers be punished, merely for advocating legal opinions that the ACLU doesn&#8217;t agree with&#8211;if said opinions resulted in mussing the hair of one or two of the Gitmo detainees.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this regard, SCOTUS is the least of your worries. If you really want to burst a blood vessel on this, worry about Congress, DOJ and OPR; that&#8217;s where this particular  party will happen, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-55029</link>
		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gingrich has every right to call Sotomayor a racist or any other label he wants. It&#039;s HIS responsibility to decide what comes out of his mouth, not the White House&#039;s.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re right - but I just don&#039;t see any implied threat in Gibbs statement.  I think one has to be particularly paranoid to read a statement as circuitous as Gibbs &quot;warning&quot; and consider it anything but the only way to respond to a question about Gingrich&#039;s comments without endorsing them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess he could have said &quot;The First Amendment grants Gingrich the right to voice whatever opinion he has, no matter how ignorant or stupid&quot; ... but perhaps he had already used up his quota for snark for the month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gingrich has every right to call Sotomayor a racist or any other label he wants. It&#8217;s HIS responsibility to decide what comes out of his mouth, not the White House&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; but I just don&#8217;t see any implied threat in Gibbs statement.  I think one has to be particularly paranoid to read a statement as circuitous as Gibbs &#8220;warning&#8221; and consider it anything but the only way to respond to a question about Gingrich&#8217;s comments without endorsing them.  </p>
<p>I guess he could have said &#8220;The First Amendment grants Gingrich the right to voice whatever opinion he has, no matter how ignorant or stupid&#8221; &#8230; but perhaps he had already used up his quota for snark for the month.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-45126</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 10:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>balconesfault: That doesn&#039;t matter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gingrich has every right to call Sotomayor a racist or any other label he wants.  It&#039;s HIS responsibility to decide what comes out of his mouth, not the White House&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s this pesky thing called the First Amendment, you know.  We all have the freedom to say hateful things, as long as we&#039;re not specifically inciting to violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>balconesfault: That doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Gingrich has every right to call Sotomayor a racist or any other label he wants.  It&#8217;s HIS responsibility to decide what comes out of his mouth, not the White House&#8217;s.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s this pesky thing called the First Amendment, you know.  We all have the freedom to say hateful things, as long as we&#8217;re not specifically inciting to violence.</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-41474</link>
		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 10:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sinz54 &lt;br&gt;4:34 PM&lt;br&gt;&quot;And we don&#039;t need a Justice whose &quot;empathy&quot; for the Gitmo detainees is going to get them sprung, to walk free--and kill more Americans.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.......You&#039;d better worry about Clarence Thomas then since GHWB made much of his &quot;empathy.&quot; The fact you talk in such hysterical terms about Sotomayor&#039;s decisions and likely impact on rulings about detainees says more about you than her. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sinz54 <br />4:34 PM<br />&#8220;And we don&#8217;t need a Justice whose &#8220;empathy&#8221; for the Gitmo detainees is going to get them sprung, to walk free&#8211;and kill more Americans.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;.You&#8217;d better worry about Clarence Thomas then since GHWB made much of his &#8220;empathy.&#8221; The fact you talk in such hysterical terms about Sotomayor&#8217;s decisions and likely impact on rulings about detainees says more about you than her.</p>
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		<title>By: krove</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-39897</link>
		<dc:creator>krove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Steele gets it even if others don&#039;t. First time I have ever agreed with him, or understood what he said for that matter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;quote.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele told CNN Radio Tuesday the party that he hopes will include more Hispanics must be cautious in how it scrutinizes a groundbreaking Latina judge.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You want to be careful, he said when asked about juggling Hispanic outreach with potential opposition to Sotomayor, You dont want to be perceived as a bully.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But overall, the new Republican leader is calling for the GOP to avoid the explosive rhetoric attached to many Supreme Court fights.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think our party right now will avoid the partisan knee-jerk judgements that typically come with these things, Steele said.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Steele gets it even if others don&#8217;t. First time I have ever agreed with him, or understood what he said for that matter.</p>
<p>quote.</p>
<p> Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele told CNN Radio Tuesday the party that he hopes will include more Hispanics must be cautious in how it scrutinizes a groundbreaking Latina judge.</p>
<p>You want to be careful, he said when asked about juggling Hispanic outreach with potential opposition to Sotomayor, You dont want to be perceived as a bully.</p>
<p>But overall, the new Republican leader is calling for the GOP to avoid the explosive rhetoric attached to many Supreme Court fights.</p>
<p>I think our party right now will avoid the partisan knee-jerk judgements that typically come with these things, Steele said.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-43481</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The simple fact is that the White House podium is -- or is supposed to be -- a special place.  If anyone in American politics has reason to &quot;watch what&quot; he or she says, it is the White House Press Secretary.  Because words from that podium matter.  A group that sharply criticized those who said Obama&#039;s speeches were &quot;mere words&quot; during the primaries should understand that words matter.  And it&#039;s always useful to point out the double standard.  So I&#039;d add to David&#039;s question &quot;On what basis does Gibbs claim the authority to tell opponents of the President when and what they may speak?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simple fact is that the White House podium is &#8212; or is supposed to be &#8212; a special place.  If anyone in American politics has reason to &#8220;watch what&#8221; he or she says, it is the White House Press Secretary.  Because words from that podium matter.  A group that sharply criticized those who said Obama&#8217;s speeches were &#8220;mere words&#8221; during the primaries should understand that words matter.  And it&#8217;s always useful to point out the double standard.  So I&#8217;d add to David&#8217;s question &#8220;On what basis does Gibbs claim the authority to tell opponents of the President when and what they may speak?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-45786</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ottovbvs:  If I&#039;m right, Frum&#039;s motivations are similar to my own:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;re not part of the Religious Right.  Abortion and gay marriage don&#039;t animate us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What animates us is internal security, and maintenance of civil order.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Under prodding from the ACLU (which eventually spawned Ginsburg), the Earl Warren Court constantly sided with the criminal against the public safety. That was bad enough back then.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But now, after 9-11, we&#039;re at war against terrorism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And we don&#039;t need a Justice whose &quot;empathy&quot; for the Gitmo detainees is going to get them sprung, to walk free--and kill more Americans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nor do we need a Justice who is going to decide that &quot;empathy&quot; for the Gitmo detainees requires that John Yoo and other Bush Administration lawyers be punished, merely for advocating legal opinions that the ACLU doesn&#039;t agree with--if said opinions resulted in mussing the hair of one or two of the Gitmo detainees.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ottovbvs:  If I&#8217;m right, Frum&#8217;s motivations are similar to my own:</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not part of the Religious Right.  Abortion and gay marriage don&#8217;t animate us.</p>
<p>What animates us is internal security, and maintenance of civil order.</p>
<p>Under prodding from the ACLU (which eventually spawned Ginsburg), the Earl Warren Court constantly sided with the criminal against the public safety. That was bad enough back then.</p>
<p>But now, after 9-11, we&#8217;re at war against terrorism.</p>
<p>And we don&#8217;t need a Justice whose &#8220;empathy&#8221; for the Gitmo detainees is going to get them sprung, to walk free&#8211;and kill more Americans.</p>
<p>Nor do we need a Justice who is going to decide that &#8220;empathy&#8221; for the Gitmo detainees requires that John Yoo and other Bush Administration lawyers be punished, merely for advocating legal opinions that the ACLU doesn&#8217;t agree with&#8211;if said opinions resulted in mussing the hair of one or two of the Gitmo detainees.</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-46226</link>
		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David seem to have decided to sign on for a suicide mission attacking the Sotomayor nomination. This is so contrary to the spirit of what he&#039;s trying to achieve at NM you have to wonder what are his motivations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David seem to have decided to sign on for a suicide mission attacking the Sotomayor nomination. This is so contrary to the spirit of what he&#8217;s trying to achieve at NM you have to wonder what are his motivations.</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/watch-what-you-say/comment-page-1#comment-51288</link>
		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I wonder whether you read your own links. The transcript of the Fleischer presser says that he did indeed say it. He&#039;s burbling about context but he definitely said it as your link confirms. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I wonder whether you read your own links. The transcript of the Fleischer presser says that he did indeed say it. He&#8217;s burbling about context but he definitely said it as your link confirms.</p>
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