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July 15th, 2009 at 11:20 am David Frum | 9 Comments |

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I was at a business event today to speak about the condition of the Republican party. One of the attendees told me that her best friend had recently lost her husband after a long and happy marriage. The friend grimly joked, “Oh well. At least I won’t have to listen to Rush Limbaugh any more.”

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  • barker13 // Jul 15, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Nice.

    (*SNORT*)

    David. You might succeed by increasing web traffic on the back on the mere mention of Limbaugh or Palin, but that’s nothing to be proud of.

    So… I’m curious… what did you get paid to to speak to the condition of the GOP?

    I assume part of your fee was tax deductible to the business as a… er… business expense.

    (*SIGH*)

    See… whether it’s you OR Limbaugh or Palin or whoever, this points to a huge loophole in the tax code which should be closed.

    I know… folks like you… the folks who hire you… the politicians and bureaucrats who create the loopholes… you’re all “winners” in this game while those who subsidize the tax subsidy through our taxes are the chumps.

    Yep. Stipulated!

    Instead of paying for you to “address” them on “the condition of the Republican Party,” wouldn’t it make more sense for that business to use the money squandered on your fee for ACTUAL business purposes… for TRUE “stimulation” of sales/service/production revenue?

    Folks… fellow posters… again, I speak to a common theme; there’s “us” and there’s “them.”

    “Them” are the folks who play by different rules and enjoy different “perks” than the rest of us.

    Hey… if the business couldn’t “write off” part of Frum’s fee and travel expenses I wouldn’t care – their money, their business. But they can and do “hire” Frum and people like him and then pass on part of the costs to the rest of us. I resent that.

    Me? I’m all about fairness. “Little” crap like this is the tip of the iceberg of “BIG” crap like Hedge Fund managers paying capital gains on their “income” as opposed to the higher income taxes that “regular” folks must pay.

    I’m against a game that’s “rigged.” Folks like Frum are part of the problem.

    BILL

  • ottovbvs // Jul 15, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Every cloud has a silve lining David

  • ottovbvs // Jul 15, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    barker13 // Jul 15, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    ………..Barker…..I know you’re from another planet…….but didn’t your mother teach you the most elementary good manners?

  • dragonlady // Jul 15, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    So does Frum honestly trace all the GOP woes to some folks listening to Rush Limbaugh? I think the problem with the GOP is dearth of leadership. When the GOP was in power, they grew corrupt, enlarged the government, and lost the respect of the rank and file. Not making this an elite vs elitist thing but when your own elites seem lackluster and disorganized, what does that tell you about the state of GOP leadership? These officials failed us. We did not fail them. So stop acting like the rank and file are a bunch of close-minded folks who are puppets of Rush Limbaugh. You don’t engender more support by implying people are stupid, or attacking other Republicans. If you have an inspirational leader, wheel them out, because they can change people’s minds about particular issues if needed.

  • ottovbvs // Jul 15, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    dragonlady // Jul 15, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    “So does Frum honestly trace all the GOP woes to some folks listening to Rush Limbaugh? I think the problem with the GOP is dearth of leadership.”

    ………..And the consequence is?……..a power vacuum into which have stepped “for profit” shills like Limbaugh, Beck and (shortly) Palin, retreads with poor reputations like Gingrich, and nincompoops like Steele. They are the perceived face of the party and set, or at least magnify, it’s most extreme agendas(which I know from other postings you largely endorse)……All very profitable for some but not in electoral terms for the GOP (although you probably disagree)……hence David’s and others obsession with the topic because to some degree it is central to the dire situation the party finds itself in.

  • aDude // Jul 15, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    If you consider that Rush became a national force around 1990, you get some interesting splits. In the six presidential elections before Rush, the Republicans won five of six, usually with electoral vote totals in excess of 400 (and even 500). Since 1990, the Republicans have gotten the majority of the popular vote only once in five elections, and never cracked the 290 level in electoral votes. Obviously, Rush is not the only reason, but ever since his voice became a force in politics, the Republican party has been particularly weak.

  • barker13 // Jul 16, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Re: Dragonlady // Jul 15, 2009 at 8:30 pm –

    (*CLAP-CLAP-CLAP*)

    Well said, DL!

    Re: Adude // Jul 15, 2009 at 9:34 pm –

    (*CHUCKLE*)

    Just curious… did you ever take (and pass) a stats class in college (undergrad or grad)?

    Causality and correlation are… er… well… not…

    Oh, nevermind. (*LAUGHING OUT LOUD*) There’s only so much teaching I’m gonna do for free.

    (*WINK*) (*CHUCKLE*)

    BILL

  • Cforchange // Jul 16, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Fact, majority girls dislike triple wed Rush. Fact, majority girls like triple wed Rudy. Figure it out experts.

  • sinz54 // Jul 17, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    adude: Your statistics are correct, but I think the influence of Limbaugh has been coincidental.

    The main reason why the GOP has had trouble winning after 1990 was that the Cold War ended, and thus the GOP’s strongest suit (national defense and preserving a favorable world balance of power for America) was less important.

    Additionally, it was anti-Communism that had held together the three parts of the GOP coalition: Foreign-policy hawks (who wanted the U.S. to stand up to the Soviets); economic conservatives (who viewed Communism as unworkable); and social conservatives (who were against “Godless” Communism).

    After Communism collapsed in 1991, that GOP coalition no longer had anti-Communism to hold it together, and it began to fray.

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