Comments on: Tom Dewey: Mob-Buster and Highway Builder http://www.frumforum.com/tom-dewey-mob-buster-and-highway-builder Building a conservatism that can win again Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:03:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: The Missing Republican Voter – Republicans United. http://www.frumforum.com/tom-dewey-mob-buster-and-highway-builder/comment-page-1#comment-85681 The Missing Republican Voter – Republicans United. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:55:29 +0000 #comment-85681 [...] This is what Geoffrey Kabaservice had to say in a profile on him last November [...] [...] This is what Geoffrey Kabaservice had to say in a profile on him last November [...]

]]> By: What Does the Lord Require of Republicans? | Republicans United. http://www.frumforum.com/tom-dewey-mob-buster-and-highway-builder/comment-page-1#comment-71307 What Does the Lord Require of Republicans? | Republicans United. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:08:38 +0000 #comment-71307 [...] justice. But I don’t think that these two values have to be opposed to each other. It was Thomas Dewey who believed in a government that helped the less fortunate and is also efficient: Dewey said in his first gubernatorial address, “There has never been a responsible government [...] [...] justice. But I don’t think that these two values have to be opposed to each other. It was Thomas Dewey who believed in a government that helped the less fortunate and is also efficient: Dewey said in his first gubernatorial address, “There has never been a responsible government [...]

]]> By: Remember the Moderates: Thomas Dewey | Republicans United. http://www.frumforum.com/tom-dewey-mob-buster-and-highway-builder/comment-page-1#comment-71249 Remember the Moderates: Thomas Dewey | Republicans United. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:36 +0000 #comment-71249 [...] Tom Dewey: Mob-Buster and Highway Builder [...] [...] Tom Dewey: Mob-Buster and Highway Builder [...]

]]> By: erasmuse http://www.frumforum.com/tom-dewey-mob-buster-and-highway-builder/comment-page-1#comment-49120 erasmuse Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:44:04 +0000 #comment-49120 Dewey's strategy of accommodation to the New Deal led to defeat in 1944 and 1948, not victory. The race was his to lose in 1948, Truman being considered a second-rate hack who had become president by luck. In 1952 the Republicans did win, but only because the Democrats were worn out by scandal and policy failure, and the Republicans couldn't make their control of Congress stick for more than a couple of years. Not an example we want to follow. Dewey’s strategy of accommodation to the New Deal led to defeat in 1944 and 1948, not victory. The race was his to lose in 1948, Truman being considered a second-rate hack who had become president by luck. In 1952 the Republicans did win, but only because the Democrats were worn out by scandal and policy failure, and the Republicans couldn’t make their control of Congress stick for more than a couple of years.

Not an example we want to follow.

]]> By: sinz54 http://www.frumforum.com/tom-dewey-mob-buster-and-highway-builder/comment-page-1#comment-45185 sinz54 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:27:50 +0000 #comment-45185 While we conservatives poked fun at Howard Dean, I gotta admit that his vision of a "50 state strategy" for the Dems finally paid off with the election of Barack Obama. It meant that the Dems could go on the offensive, challenging the GOP in Ohio and Florida, and even in Montana and Indiana. In contrast, the Karl Rove playbook of "Red States + Ohio" managed to put together 51% majorities in the Electoral College for Bush in both 2000 and 2004. But at the expense of writing off the rest of the nation. That made it a high risk strategy in the long term--if Ohio tipped Democrat, the GOP could no longer win an Electoral College majority with that playbook. And now that has happened. The GOP cannot effectively challenge the Dems' "50 state" offensive strategy with a "51%" defensive strategy. The GOP must now go on the offensive too, attempting to peel away Blue States (and Ohio may now be one of them) from the Dems. While we conservatives poked fun at Howard Dean, I gotta admit that his vision of a “50 state strategy” for the Dems finally paid off with the election of Barack Obama. It meant that the Dems could go on the offensive, challenging the GOP in Ohio and Florida, and even in Montana and Indiana. In contrast, the Karl Rove playbook of “Red States + Ohio” managed to put together 51% majorities in the Electoral College for Bush in both 2000 and 2004. But at the expense of writing off the rest of the nation. That made it a high risk strategy in the long term–if Ohio tipped Democrat, the GOP could no longer win an Electoral College majority with that playbook. And now that has happened. The GOP cannot effectively challenge the Dems’ “50 state” offensive strategy with a “51%” defensive strategy. The GOP must now go on the offensive too, attempting to peel away Blue States (and Ohio may now be one of them) from the Dems.

]]> By: ESB http://www.frumforum.com/tom-dewey-mob-buster-and-highway-builder/comment-page-1#comment-47087 ESB Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:12:32 +0000 #comment-47087 Great series! It's refreshing to read an account of Dewey, mustache and all, that doesn't depict him as a dartboard. However, I'm not sure how much today's Republicans can learn from him. 70 percent of northeastern African-Americans voted Republican in 1956 because, in 1956, Republicans were the party of civil rights. Good luck getting them back from Obama! Perhaps the big tent has a better shot, but hasn't the insurmountable problem of the Reagan coalition been that different factions have different, fissiparous basic principles with as much potential to divide as to unite? Of course, the same is true of the Democrats to the nth degree, so maybe Dewey's role in the old Republican party does have something to teach today's GOP about togetherness. Great series! It’s refreshing to read an account of Dewey, mustache and all, that doesn’t depict him as a dartboard. However, I’m not sure how much today’s Republicans can learn from him. 70 percent of northeastern African-Americans voted Republican in 1956 because, in 1956, Republicans were the party of civil rights. Good luck getting them back from Obama! Perhaps the big tent has a better shot, but hasn’t the insurmountable problem of the Reagan coalition been that different factions have different, fissiparous basic principles with as much potential to divide as to unite? Of course, the same is true of the Democrats to the nth degree, so maybe Dewey’s role in the old Republican party does have something to teach today’s GOP about togetherness.

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