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		<title>By: SFTor1</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFTor1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s surely no &quot;magical negro&quot; reference made here, no? Yes?

As far as GWB&#039;s private experience is concerned: he failed at everything he tried, except help get the new Rangers stadium funded at the taxpayer&#039;s expense.

The Obamas seem to be pretty OK to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s surely no &#8220;magical negro&#8221; reference made here, no? Yes?</p>
<p>As far as GWB&#8217;s private experience is concerned: he failed at everything he tried, except help get the new Rangers stadium funded at the taxpayer&#8217;s expense.</p>
<p>The Obamas seem to be pretty OK to me.</p>
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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
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		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there is no magic to us&quot;.

It strikes me that maybe Michele has been handled for so long, by so many YesMaam&#039;ers that she really doesn&#039;t appreciate how utterly disconnected she is from reality.  She is a charcoaled or watercolored version of JackieK --trying to appear to be &quot;it&quot; but lacking the true character and substance that &quot;it&quot; requires of those who pursue the fleeting vainglory.

For someone who doesn&#039;t admit to the supreme ego that drives her, she seems a fake equal of her hubbie.  I&#039;m wondering why she&#039;s turned her back on the black underclass and working poor in exchange for fine dining and presidential flatware.  I&#039;m wondering why she&#039;s forgotten all those poor, suffering people of Chicago or the inner city DC kids who had a chance at the same brass ring she grabbed onto a few years ago but can&#039;t because her hubbie done axed the innovative voucher program for the poor youth?  I&#039;m wondering why Michele has seen fit to forget about the starving masses in Africa while having staff grow deisgner vegetables on raised beds at the White House?

As for oldskool&#039;s standard and discredited far Left, out-of-touch, San Francisco-valued line of: &quot;(Reagan) let people die because they were gay and he thought they deserved it&quot;, no amount of appropriate scorn can do that asshat line of your&#039;s justice.  What an ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there is no magic to us&#8221;.</p>
<p>It strikes me that maybe Michele has been handled for so long, by so many YesMaam&#8217;ers that she really doesn&#8217;t appreciate how utterly disconnected she is from reality.  She is a charcoaled or watercolored version of JackieK &#8211;trying to appear to be &#8220;it&#8221; but lacking the true character and substance that &#8220;it&#8221; requires of those who pursue the fleeting vainglory.</p>
<p>For someone who doesn&#8217;t admit to the supreme ego that drives her, she seems a fake equal of her hubbie.  I&#8217;m wondering why she&#8217;s turned her back on the black underclass and working poor in exchange for fine dining and presidential flatware.  I&#8217;m wondering why she&#8217;s forgotten all those poor, suffering people of Chicago or the inner city DC kids who had a chance at the same brass ring she grabbed onto a few years ago but can&#8217;t because her hubbie done axed the innovative voucher program for the poor youth?  I&#8217;m wondering why Michele has seen fit to forget about the starving masses in Africa while having staff grow deisgner vegetables on raised beds at the White House?</p>
<p>As for oldskool&#8217;s standard and discredited far Left, out-of-touch, San Francisco-valued line of: &#8220;(Reagan) let people die because they were gay and he thought they deserved it&#8221;, no amount of appropriate scorn can do that asshat line of your&#8217;s justice.  What an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldskool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oldskool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>balconesfault // Nov 3, 2009 at 11:02 am 

&quot;ummm … Reagan was most certainly not everyone’s grumpy uncle.&quot;

He joked around but he had a mean streak. He let people die because they were gay and he thought they deserved it, after all, and he didn&#039;t even get along with his own kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>balconesfault // Nov 3, 2009 at 11:02 am </p>
<p>&#8220;ummm … Reagan was most certainly not everyone’s grumpy uncle.&#8221;</p>
<p>He joked around but he had a mean streak. He let people die because they were gay and he thought they deserved it, after all, and he didn&#8217;t even get along with his own kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ummm … Reagan was most certainly not everyone’s grumpy uncle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I wouldn&#039;t call GWB a grumpy uncle either, at least not in 2000.   Cheney was pretty grumpy, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ummm … Reagan was most certainly not everyone’s grumpy uncle.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call GWB a grumpy uncle either, at least not in 2000.   Cheney was pretty grumpy, though.</p>
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		<title>By: oldgal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love them or hate them, it would be a better world if we would all exhibit the graciousness and manners of the Obamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love them or hate them, it would be a better world if we would all exhibit the graciousness and manners of the Obamas.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Repubs always seem to nominate everyone’s grumpy uncle; Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Dole, McCain, etc&lt;/b&gt;

ummm ... Reagan was most certainly not everyone&#039;s grumpy uncle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Repubs always seem to nominate everyone’s grumpy uncle; Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Dole, McCain, etc</b></p>
<p>ummm &#8230; Reagan was most certainly not everyone&#8217;s grumpy uncle.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldskool</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More sour grapes. The Obamas are magical in the same way JFK was, tons of charms and smarts and a gorgeous family to boot. I think it gets under the skin of the Right that they young charmers are usually Dems while Repubs always seem to nominate everyone&#039;s grumpy uncle; Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Dole, McCain, etc,... the guys you could see yelling at kids to get off their lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More sour grapes. The Obamas are magical in the same way JFK was, tons of charms and smarts and a gorgeous family to boot. I think it gets under the skin of the Right that they young charmers are usually Dems while Repubs always seem to nominate everyone&#8217;s grumpy uncle; Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Dole, McCain, etc,&#8230; the guys you could see yelling at kids to get off their lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Obama never worked in the private sector in a real job in a real company in his entire life. &lt;/b&gt;

Per the LA Times:

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill &amp; Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.

But the firm also handled routine legal matters and real estate. Obama spent about 70% of his time on voting rights, civil rights and employment, generally as a junior associate. The rest of his time was spent on matters related to real estate transactions, filing incorporation papers and defending clients against minor lawsuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Obama never worked in the private sector in a real job in a real company in his entire life. </b></p>
<p>Per the LA Times:</p>
<p>Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill &amp; Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.</p>
<p>But the firm also handled routine legal matters and real estate. Obama spent about 70% of his time on voting rights, civil rights and employment, generally as a junior associate. The rest of his time was spent on matters related to real estate transactions, filing incorporation papers and defending clients against minor lawsuits.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s New York Times had an article on voters in Iowa.  There at least, this Obama cult worship has worn off.  The reason?  Rough politics as usual.  The Obama admininstration made a big mistake by descending to the level of LBJ-style blackjack partisanship.  He had attracted a lot of voters who thought he was beyond all that, and would work to change all that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/us/politics/03year.html?_r=1&amp;hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s New York Times had an article on voters in Iowa.  There at least, this Obama cult worship has worn off.  The reason?  Rough politics as usual.  The Obama admininstration made a big mistake by descending to the level of LBJ-style blackjack partisanship.  He had attracted a lot of voters who thought he was beyond all that, and would work to change all that.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/us/politics/03year.html?_r=1&amp;hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/us/politics/03year.html?_r=1&amp;hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ottovbs:  &lt;blockquote&gt;  Obama’s come off as a hell of lot more real than the previous occupants of 1600 PA AV &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Real?

Obama never worked in the private sector in a real job in a real company in his entire life.  He was a community organizer, a civil rights lawyer, and taught constitutional law.  That&#039;s not exactly representative of the background of 90% of Americans.  It isn&#039;t even representative of your own background.

Ross Perot was a heck of a lot more &quot;real&quot; than Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ottovbs:<br />
<blockquote>  Obama’s come off as a hell of lot more real than the previous occupants of 1600 PA AV </p></blockquote>
<p>Real?</p>
<p>Obama never worked in the private sector in a real job in a real company in his entire life.  He was a community organizer, a civil rights lawyer, and taught constitutional law.  That&#8217;s not exactly representative of the background of 90% of Americans.  It isn&#8217;t even representative of your own background.</p>
<p>Ross Perot was a heck of a lot more &#8220;real&#8221; than Obama.</p>
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