Comments on: The Speech – A First Appraisal http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chekote http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-3#comment-54618 Chekote Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:43:54 +0000 #comment-54618 JJW. The SEC and regulators in generals are ineffective regardless who is in the White House. Most of the examiners don't have the experience or expertise to understand the products they review. I was check out the testimony before Congress of Harry Markopolos http://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-A-15082 he explains very why regulators are so ineffective. I was a regulatory examiner for several years and he is right on target. JJW. The SEC and regulators in generals are ineffective regardless who is in the White House. Most of the examiners don’t have the experience or expertise to understand the products they review. I was check out the testimony before Congress of Harry Markopolos http://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-A-15082 he explains very why regulators are so ineffective. I was a regulatory examiner for several years and he is right on target.

]]> By: Chekote http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-3#comment-41870 Chekote Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:35:21 +0000 #comment-41870 Oneo. Here are a few polls: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/federal_bailout/54_say_no_to_all_bailouts http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/housing/55_say_government_mortgage_help_rewards_bad_behavior Oneo. Here are a few polls:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/federal_bailout/54_say_no_to_all_bailouts

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/housing/55_say_government_mortgage_help_rewards_bad_behavior

]]> By: Chekote http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-3#comment-46677 Chekote Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:32:18 +0000 #comment-46677 "I'd focus on my customer base, identify what's making them nervous, and try to allay fears in relation to my dealings with them." My clients are in the financial industry. Their fear is not knowing what the government is going to do next. So we are on hold. Stop being so smug. “I’d focus on my customer base, identify what’s making them nervous, and try to allay fears in relation to my dealings with them.” My clients are in the financial industry. Their fear is not knowing what the government is going to do next. So we are on hold. Stop being so smug.

]]> By: sinz54 http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-3#comment-49388 sinz54 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:36:04 +0000 #comment-49388 Bulldoglover100: I don't know where you're getting your numbers from. Rasmussen has support for Obama's stimulus package declining this past week: Only 34% of voters still say it will help the economy; 32% say it will hurt; and 26% say it won't either help or hurt. (http://tinyurl.com/dk7bw9) Bulldoglover100: I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers from. Rasmussen has support for Obama’s stimulus package declining this past week: Only 34% of voters still say it will help the economy; 32% say it will hurt; and 26% say it won’t either help or hurt. (http://tinyurl.com/dk7bw9)

]]> By: sinz54 http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-2#comment-45851 sinz54 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:33:05 +0000 #comment-45851 Chekote: I don't think the problem with the Obama approach is "uncertainty," the problem is unnecessary disappointments. The stock market builds in expectations about future earnings, profits, and yes, government actions, as investors invest for the future. That's why you can see a stock decline in price, even when the company made a decent quarterly profit--because the profit just wasn't as big as the company's investors had hoped. One big reason the stock market tanked recently, is that Geithner had promised a big fancy new program to unstick the financial markets. Then he went before the entire world's news media and spouted nothing but vague generalities, disappointing investors who had been hoping for more specifics. We heard later it was because Geithner still had doubts about the plan his staff had drafted, so he decided not to talk about it yet. In retrospect, the markets would be doing better if he had gotten out word in advance that his people are still not sure what to do. At least then nobody would have had their hopes dashed. Dashed hopes are what drives down markets. Chekote: I don’t think the problem with the Obama approach is “uncertainty,” the problem is unnecessary disappointments. The stock market builds in expectations about future earnings, profits, and yes, government actions, as investors invest for the future. That’s why you can see a stock decline in price, even when the company made a decent quarterly profit–because the profit just wasn’t as big as the company’s investors had hoped. One big reason the stock market tanked recently, is that Geithner had promised a big fancy new program to unstick the financial markets. Then he went before the entire world’s news media and spouted nothing but vague generalities, disappointing investors who had been hoping for more specifics. We heard later it was because Geithner still had doubts about the plan his staff had drafted, so he decided not to talk about it yet. In retrospect, the markets would be doing better if he had gotten out word in advance that his people are still not sure what to do. At least then nobody would have had their hopes dashed. Dashed hopes are what drives down markets.

]]> By: dendup http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-2#comment-40347 dendup Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:53:33 +0000 #comment-40347 Republicans have put forward various alternative to the Obama approach. One is the payroll tax holiday. Republicans have in the past framed repeal of the Bush tax cuts as a tax increase. After a payroll tax holiday, many people would experience its resumption as a large tax increase. Would Republicans then decry its return as another Democratic tax increase? If this is a serious proposal, Republicans need to own this aspect of it. Republicans have put forward various alternative to the Obama approach. One is the payroll tax holiday. Republicans have in the past framed repeal of the Bush tax cuts as a tax increase. After a payroll tax holiday, many people would experience its resumption as a large tax increase. Would Republicans then decry its return as another Democratic tax increase? If this is a serious proposal, Republicans need to own this aspect of it.

]]> By: Bulldoglover100 http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-2#comment-41562 Bulldoglover100 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:00:07 +0000 #comment-41562 Obama is pulling an 80% approval rating on the stimulus today. We MUST deal with that and stop the slamming using worthless retoric and we must stop whoever Jindal is using as a speech writer and guiding him. Today in the WaPo is this rendetion of his speech..........Jindal's proposal for creating jobs is "lowering income tax rates for working families, cutting taxes for small businesses and strengthening incentives for businesses to invest in new equipment and hire new workers and stabilizing home values by creating a new tax credit for homebuyers." But here's the problem: the credit markets are frozen. As a result, businesses aren't investing, small businesses aren't hiring and people are losing their jobs or can't find new ones. Americans are hurting and are looking for answers. They didn't get anything new, innovative or imaginative from Jindal..................So regardless of if we like that take on Jindal or not the part about being wrong is on target. We MUST fix ourselves before we will have any credibility in this country again and articles such as this one David felt the need to write do not help us in that area. Our poll numbers are as low as they can go and there does not apprear to be any end in sight. Obama is pulling an 80% approval rating on the stimulus today. We MUST deal with that and stop the slamming using worthless retoric and we must stop whoever Jindal is using as a speech writer and guiding him. Today in the WaPo is this rendetion of his speech……….Jindal’s proposal for creating jobs is “lowering income tax rates for working families, cutting taxes for small businesses and strengthening incentives for businesses to invest in new equipment and hire new workers and stabilizing home values by creating a new tax credit for homebuyers.” But here’s the problem: the credit markets are frozen. As a result, businesses aren’t investing, small businesses aren’t hiring and people are losing their jobs or can’t find new ones. Americans are hurting and are looking for answers. They didn’t get anything new, innovative or imaginative from Jindal………………So regardless of if we like that take on Jindal or not the part about being wrong is on target. We MUST fix ourselves before we will have any credibility in this country again and articles such as this one David felt the need to write do not help us in that area. Our poll numbers are as low as they can go and there does not apprear to be any end in sight.

]]> By: JJWFromME http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-2#comment-48353 JJWFromME Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:48:45 +0000 #comment-48353 I would look at a right leaning site if it had something like a SEC power point slide on it, as this one does. There is supporting evidence for what's written on the page. This is an annoying habit on the right. If it doesn't come from an ideologically approved source, it's dismissed out of hand. This is a big problem. You can have problems with *opinion.* But a fact is a fact. It doesn't matter where it comes from. I would look at a right leaning site if it had something like a SEC power point slide on it, as this one does. There is supporting evidence for what’s written on the page. This is an annoying habit on the right. If it doesn’t come from an ideologically approved source, it’s dismissed out of hand. This is a big problem. You can have problems with *opinion.* But a fact is a fact. It doesn’t matter where it comes from.

]]> By: Oneon1isto http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-2#comment-44837 Oneon1isto Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:37:28 +0000 #comment-44837 Word of advice, JJW: posting from TPM isn't going to get you anywhere here. If the article highlights a fact from somewhere a little less left leaning, you might gain traction. Otherwise you're probably just spinning your wheels. Word of advice, JJW: posting from TPM isn’t going to get you anywhere here. If the article highlights a fact from somewhere a little less left leaning, you might gain traction. Otherwise you’re probably just spinning your wheels.

]]> By: Oneon1isto http://www.frumforum.com/the-speech-a-first-appraisal/comment-page-2#comment-41745 Oneon1isto Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:36:12 +0000 #comment-41745 Chekote: and good, I'm glad you think they're part of the discussion--they should be. Harumphing won't get us anywhere. Although I'm not sure what polls you're reading. Across an aggregate I keep seeing a 60/30 approval/disapproval of the stimulus bill, roughly the same though a little higher for Obama's approval. Chekote: and good, I’m glad you think they’re part of the discussion–they should be. Harumphing won’t get us anywhere. Although I’m not sure what polls you’re reading. Across an aggregate I keep seeing a 60/30 approval/disapproval of the stimulus bill, roughly the same though a little higher for Obama’s approval.

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