Comments on: The Speech 3

By: anniemargret

anniemargret — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:36:19 +0000

There’s a lot of flip remarks on this blog about people going to the ER for their care, or waiting till the rolls drop of the uninsured.

These are living, breathing human beings, your fellow Americans. Have you gone to the ER for your healthcare lately? Try it. Their job in the ER is to triage, and to stem the blood. They don’t do post ER visits for gallbladder stones, diabetes, cardiac catheritizations, or venereal diseases. Do you think other than stemming the flow of blood that there is any followup care offered by the ET dept? They do their job and then refer you to a doctor. If you don’t have a doctor, you are out of luck. They are hemorraging. They can hardly keep up with routine real ER cases than care for people’s health.

So this is the GOP’s answer for healthcare reform? Send them to the ER?

Have you been uninsured for any length of time? No? Are you one of the millions worrying themselves to sleep because they cannot afford to help their children due to costs and/or lack of insurance? No?

Somehow listening to bloggers here waxing philosophic about other people’s lives, when it means at times, literally life or death is staggering in its arrogance.

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:17:01 +0000

And how are Americans “confused” about Obamacare? Please elaborate.

Well one way is that while a slight majority of Americans respond to polls that they aren’t in favor of Obama’s healthcare plan … a solid majority (55-41) say they’re in favor of a federally run public option that individuals can buy into.

Sound to me like confusion.

By: Travis

Travis — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:39:10 +0000

I said they’re confused about the issue of Health Care. I said nothing about “Obamacare”? What is that anyway? Is that the name of a bill going through Congress right now? The only ‘bills’ being debated in Congress right now were not written by Obama, yet you call it “Obamacare”…now who is being partisan here?
I happen to agree with your general premise that the pro-reform movement had been losing the debate (Incidentally, I also happen to agree with an earlier point of yours: “Why do we have to wait until a bill is passed before we fight Medicare fraud?”).
My general point is that people are confused about health care b/c they don’t understand the issue (it’s a complicated issue to be fair) and many rely on television/radio pundits (whose goal is to grow their audience) as their primary information source. I believe people should be researching issues themselves but don’t b/c it’s just so easy to let Olbermann tell you what to think.

By: Niscala

Niscala — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:05:23 +0000

Or maybe they have died waiting for insurance to cover their illness. Honestly, why should the obama plan time expire. Health insurance for all is a right not a privilege.

By: Chekote

Chekote — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:04:08 +0000

And how are Americans “confused” about Obamacare? Please elaborate.

By: Travis

Travis — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:58:29 +0000

No. I’d venture to say that it’s more like 80% of Americans (not “fools”, just Americans) don’t take the time to inform themselves on this issue (b/c they don’t have the time or don’t care to make the time). Many of them flip on the tube or radio and catch small only pieces of information (not misinformation as you say…you think Beck is providing misinformation?) followed up by large pieces of opinion (by the likes of Beck, Palin, Olbermann, Maddow). Add that exposure of basically sound bites to whatever information they had to begin with, and an opinion based on limited (not “mis”) information is formed. Thus, Americans (again, not “fools” as you say) are left confused on the issue b/c their sound bites hardly cover the core components of the issue.

By: Chekote

Chekote — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:38:51 +0000

BTW, Obama said last night that the number of uninsured is 30 million. Down from the 47 million he claimed earlier this year. If we can make so much progress without passing any bill, why not wait a little longer and maybe we won’t have any uninsured?

By: Chekote

Chekote — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:35:21 +0000

travis

So you are saying that the 52% of Americans who oppose Obamacare are all misinformed fools listening to Beck? Partisans make a mistake everytime they think that people are stupid and being misled. The same thing happened with Bush when many on the Left were aghast that people could re-elect an idiot like Bush. Well, as my indie cousin said at the time “Bush may be an idiot. But that idiot is going to keep this country safe.”

By: Travis

Travis — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:02:55 +0000

People are confused about health care b/c they don’t care to inform themselves about health care. Instead, they rely on the likes of Palin, Beck, Maddow, Olbermann , et al to guide their thinking…and those folks have an inherent incentive, not to inform you, but rather to keep you listening to them.

By: Chekote

Chekote — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:35:51 +0000

independents and seniors who were confused by peopel like Sarah palin and Glen Beck.

This is why Obama is losing the debate. He is operating under the assumption that people are opposed to his plans because of Palin’s and Beck’s exaggerated claims. That’s not the reason. People are opposed because his plan makes no sense.