I don’t agree with you that former Veep Cheney is anything like a Stuck on Stupid conservative.

I never claimed he was.

What I do claim, is that Cheney’s national approval rating is even lower than Sarah Palin’s. What I am claiming is that the GOP base is in love with certain public figures whom the rest of the country frankly wants nothing to do with. The rest of the nation outside the GOP strongholds is glad that Bush and Cheney have retired to private life.

It’s all part of the same syndrome: The views, attitudes, and political figures backed by the GOP base these days are out of phase with those of the rest of the nation. That’s because the GOP base is mostly white Southerners and Mountain State types and Utahns. Culturally they are very different from, say, Northeastern suburbanites.

First off, sinz, you’ve got an axe to grind with RedState for getting banned, go to it. Have at it.

You got a beef to tenderizer with conservatives still Stuck on Stupid inside the GOP, go at it. Pound away. Unlike Magic Barack and his thuggery Administration, I respect your 1st amendment rights and you’re free to assail away at all those boogey-men that still habit your pumpkin patch.

I don’t agree with you that former Veep Cheney is anything like a Stuck on Stupid conservative. In fact, he’s a brilliant political tactician and skilled public leader who has already handed the Magic Barack team it’s own head twice now… and, it looks from his comments before the Center for Security Policy, a 3rd time is simply sublime M-A-G-I-C.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18209.xml

Grind that axe of your’s against RedState all you want for banning you from commentary. Argue away the day on why conservatives are hurting the GOP.

But leave Veep Cheney alone. He’s way, way, way out of your league.

Now why go an act like an asshat, C-I? I’m a Party activist; I don’t just rely on my vote to describe me -like you might- I work within the Party as a volunteer; I worked for Romney & McCain & Bush and Bush41 & Reagan & Dole & Alexander and hundreds of candidates through the yrs. I’m betting you’re one of those angry white guys sitting on the sofa bitching at the TV news show as “proof” of your conservative bona fides. Hey buddy, do us all a favor and go start in on your second bag of prok rinds, ok?

While you may think a purge is your best, most-twisted recipe for the New Conservative Society of Pure Thinkers Thinkin’ da Pure Thoughts within the GOP, our side of the coin has been tossing your types out of power positions faster than the Club4Greed can write checks… which is pretty fast. Ron Reagan knew he needed a broad base to win election… it’s why he pushed his tax-cut, small govt credentials long, long, long before he pushed the social conservatism you wrongly think best describes him.

Look, my side doesn’t mind you guys being a part of the electorate who help the GOP regain its lost ground with voters driven away by your TommieDelay automaton litmus test issues… and we don’t have to stand in the public square and repudiate each of the Stuck on Stupid policies your side forced on us… but you ain’t getting near the gears or levers of power again. Ever. You had your chance; you ruined the Party’s brand. Conservatives; not RINOs. You already had a chance at purging the Party and it hasn’t worked out very well.

You guys & your short-sighted attitudes gave us NannyBoTox, HairyGreed, Magic Barack and a 60 Dem majority in the Senate. What, you want to keep going down this track until you’ve made the GOP as meaningless as the Libertarian Party? I don’t think so, sister.

Ron Reagan was a man of incredible contradictions but I admired his ability to see the pragmatic side of politics in spite of being driven to the Far far far Righthand side of the road by whacko conservatives seeking some 4th Reich of Conservatism. If he were here, he’d spit in your eye for using him as justification for your political lunacy.

People change. Newt has. That’s fine, but he’s not going to get credit for being a conservative back in 1994.

Newt hasn’t changed.
His party has.

Newt wasn’t just a “conservative” in 1994. He was also a visionary with independent, creative ideas. He has a technocrat’s attitude of letting the facts speak for themselves. Today, Newt accepts that global warming is a scientific reality. He accepts that such externalities as pollution and global warming are not cost-accounted by traditional free market economics.

The people whom Newt’s ideas appealed to–people like me north of the Mason-Dixon Line–have since fled the GOP and become registered Independents.

What’s left is a rump party dominated by white Southern ideologues. I read their stuff on RedState.com, and I’m stunned at how out of phase they are with the rest of the country. Some of them are still sorry the South lost the Civil War–and they reassert the right of states to secede from the Union today if Obama gets to be what they consider to be “too socialist.”

And without any background in science, without any appreciation for the scientific method, they conclude that global warming is an Al Gore hoax and that Darwin’s theory of evolution is unproven.

People like me don’t want to be part of a group like that. We just don’t fit in.

I’d think by now every conservative wannabe could see that doing the same “Stuck on Stupid” tricks ain’t going to work for the GOP

You would be wrong.

Surf on over to RedState.com where they are still adoring Cheney and Palin.

What the GOP needs is more people like Reagan and to purge sinz and mi-goper, who I believe voted Obama anyway.

You have nothing to worry about.
You guys “purged” me out of the GOP years ago. I’m a registered Independent now.

Guys like you “purged” me out of RedState.com too. Heaven forbid any outside ideas should penetrate their right-wing echo chamber.

Satisfied?

This is America. Whom I voted for is none of your business. But I told you I did not vote for Obama. I told you this as a courtesy. But you ideologues don’t respect courtesy, mutual respect, or the ability to disagree without being disagreeable. You want Civil War II.

I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.” Ronald Reagan

What the GOP needs is more people like Reagan and to purge sinz and mi-goper, who I believe voted Obama anyway.

The GOP has already tried the hard conservative road of the TommieDelay automatons… we pushed their issues on English Only, Saving the Flag, protecting Teri Schiavo, defending marriage and lots of other issues… it didn’t work, the GOP brand got ruined and when the little snots couldn’t have the dream ticket they demanded –I think that was Freddie Thompson at the top– they stayed home on Election Day in a spiteful snit and gave America our Magic Barack, a 60 Dem majority in the Senate, NancyBoTox for another 2 yrs or more and Ms Sotomayor on SCOTUS… permanently dumbing down the last great institution of our republic.

I’d think by now every conservative wannabe could see that doing the same “Stuck on Stupid” tricks ain’t going to work for the GOP… we don’t need a test team to prove that conservatives aren’t very good at governing. Moderates are. We need informed managers, not people who lob positions on issues like they’re grenades at a simulated war battle.

The only way you’re going to learn that your way isn’t working, is to try it EXACTLY your way, with no hedging or qualifications–and see what happens.

Nominate Sarah Palin for President in 2012. She can choose Tom Tancredo as her running mate.

If that ticket wins, then more power to you. I will admit right here on this blog that I was wrong.

But if that ticket loses big (as I suspect it will), maybe then you will be willing to give my way a try.

“In other words, he’s treating this race as a litmus test to prove how big-tent the GOP can be. But … why? There’s no good reason to make this district, which should be a safe Republican seat, into a bellwether. Get a conservative elected and then find some socially liberal libertarians in purple districts to champion next year. Like Ace says, Scozzafava is so questionable that it’s not clear whether she’d be better than the Democrat, and since this is a special election, she’s probably looking at another challenge from Doug Hoffman a year from now anyway. I don’t get why Gingrich is digging in here: If he runs for president, this’ll be used against him by Romney et al., and if he doesn’t run for president, it’ll hurt his standing among conservatives as a senior statesman/spokesman for the party. Mystifying.”