Actually, I think pretty much everyone, except for conservatives and the Taliban, are cheering the fact that an American president won the Nobel Prize even though we don’t think his current accomplishments justify it, which is Obama’s opinion as well. We think the award is, as Obama said, an affirmation of American leadership and a call to action to pursue peace.

So let me make sure I understand you correctly. You allege that Obama won the Nobel, in part, because he is not white. I then ask you if you have any evidence that his race was a factor in winning, and the evidence you offer is: (1) a comment posted 24 hours after yours by someone calling himself “D,” which, when read carefully, does not support your allegation, (2) a Los Angeles Times editorial, which, when read carefully, does not support your allegation, and (3) an opinion by some black poli sci professor at Emory.

I’m sorry, but the reactions of a poli sci professor, the L.A. Times editorial page and some poster using the pseudonym “D” do not constitute evidence of racial bias on the part of the Nobel prize committee.

Do you think if I find three people who agree with Kanye West’s allegation after Hurricaine Katrina that George Bush doesn’t like black people that that would somehow be evidence of racial animosity on the part of George Bush?

You should probably take a nap and try to collect your thoughts after you’ve had some rest.

This is from the Los Angeles Times editorial of today:

“Obama remains a powerful voice of hope and change for many Europeans, not only because of his eloquence and his reassertion of America’s role as a leader of international diplomacy, but also because he physically embodies change as progress. In this country, most people have taken their cue from a president determined to govern as chief executive of a post-racial society.”

I’ll give you one guess what they meant by “physically embodies.”

It’s YOUR FELLOW LIBERALS who are cheering the idea that the Nobel Prize went to the first African-American president, as if having dark skin qualifies for a Nobel Prize. So don’t blame me for it.

It’s YOU LIBERALS who are saying it’s great that Obama won because:

1. He’s not white.
2. He’s not Bush.
3. He wants to manage the decline of America into being just one nation among many.

This comment is from Andra Gillespie, an African-American professor of political science at Emory University:

The other thing that really troubles me about this is how I suspect that this award is inextricably tied to Obama’s story of breaking barriers in American politics. Far be it from me to make everything a story about race, but I fear that not only are we turning Obama into the Messiah, we are turning him into the Black Messiah. Just as there’s the narrative of the negative, pathological black, there’s also the story of the black superhero who makes everything right against all obstacles. Both narratives are insidious because they turn their victims into caricatures that don’t reflect reality.

A larger point to be made here is that many conservative posters on this site seem unwilling or incapable of evaluating the individual merits of a circumstance or a policy.

You want individual merits? Fine.

In a nutshell, Obama did not deserve this award on the individual merits. It was blatantly political–yet another slap at Bush, who has now been out of office for ten months. And a warning to Obama to continue to pursue a peacenik course: Let Iran have the atomic bomb, etc.

Obama did NOT win the Presidency through some coup d’etat or revolutionary armed struggle. The American people CHOSE him to bring change.

But the Nobel Committee didn’t mention that fact at all. Americans got no credit for choosing the first African-American president, or for choosing a major shift in policy. Instead, their effusive explanation was all about Obama, as if Europeans were saying “Thank heavens those stupid Americans voted for the right guy once, like a stopped clock is right twice a day.”

Screw them all.
Every day that American power eclipses European power sticks in the Europeans’ craw–and brings a smile to my face.

Sinz, do you have any evidence that Obama’s race was a factor in his Nobel award?

Go read the post from the poster named “D”. He’s on YOUR side, and he’s defending the Nobel award to Obama as a sign that “the election of an african-american to the highest job in a western nation is …. the single greatest shift away from the white, european domination of the world.”

So go argue with HIM.

I don’t believe that Americans would have died in combat had Reagan not cultivated Islamic radicals in Afghanistan

But the Cold War might have gone on longer, maybe indefinitely. And the tyrannies of Eastern Europe, and of the Russian peoples themselves, would have continued.

Unlike you liberals, I consider the loss of freedom by totalitarian regimes to be just as significant as casualties. You liberals just don’t believe in “Give me liberty or give me death.” You don’t believe in shedding blood, even for causes YOU believe in yourselves.

Reagan did everything in his power to break the Soviet grip on Eurasia. This included covert aid to the Afghan rebels, covert aid to the Solidarity regime in Poland, allowing the Soviets to steal computer technologies in which our CIA had carefully implanted bugs to make them useless in actual operation, and numerous other actions. Those captive nations of Eastern Europe are free democracies now, without the fear of secret police or GULAGs.

But you don’t care that the peoples of Eastern Europe are free–because you don’t consider that freedom worth the blood shed in Afghanistan.

That’s why liberals like you–and Obama–are of a very different stripe than liberals like FDR or Truman. You don’t believe that freedom is worth shedding lots of blood for.

1. He’s not white.
2. He’s not Bush.
3. He doesn’t want America to be a superpower.

And as far as your claptrap about “the single greatest shift away from the white, european domination of the world”, remember one thing:

Here in the United States, we’re all supposed to be Americans, no matter what the color of our skin is. I hope for YOUR sake that Obama does NOT see himself as ending “white domination of America.” Because that is unconstitutional and could easily get him impeached and removed from office on that basis.

And as for YOU: Go live in Zimbabwe, where white folks are constantly being persecuted, harassed and reviled. It sounds like where you belong.

Someone has to be the grownups.