With all the talk of Messiah and me being such a kool aid drinking disciple, I will assume that is “to the cross”.

There you go.

Damn txanne, he nailed you.

Thanks for re-re-re-making my points. Unfortunately, no one around here has been able to get through their tin-foil hats yet… I’m hoping that election results today will drive the Democrats and Obama back from the brink of insanity, toward calmer, cooler, more prudent ground.

And give us some new Republican office holders that the far Left trolls here will have to spend lots of time spinning into some sort of vindication of Obama Messiah.

…….So you’re normally a supporter of the president?

All I am saying is that there is a perfectly legitimate argument for more press coverage of the returning soldiers dignified transfer. It is not in and of its self a bad reflection of the character of President Obama. I see it as something we all need to be aware of: the great and final cost of these wars.

the other fact that kills your partisan argument is that mi-gop right about the absence of other military families at dover. according to d.o.d., these transfer cermonies draw 60 percent of the dead soldiers and this one drew a single family that the obama spin machine used without shame.

in our house, where both my wife and i served and our oldest is now serving, we think it was a staged media moment for obama to capitalize upon like bush did with the uss lincoln celebration. but unlike bush’s many visits to injured troops or meetings with military families, obama chose to do this one and all others in the glare of media lights, milking it for whatever political cover he can gain.

i agree with mi-gop, it does say something adverse about obama’s character to use a dead soldier as a prop for his falling in the polls. next time you see shots or clips of obama at military events, look around. the majority of faces are of minorities, not a minority of faces. he’s drawing a narrow, small band of supporters to his military events or he’s attending events where military attendance is mandatory. our household isn’t faked out by obama pr stunts. and the person who wrote that this is just what presidents do is all wrong, too.

it’s kind of like a comedian who begins their act with “true story, true story…” and then tells an outlandish joke? obama is someone who is practiced at looking sincere, but there’s no reason or record for believing what he says is true. like the comedian, we know obama doesn’t really care about the military or the sacrafice these coffins represent. obama is just using them as a prop to help him offset his fall in the polls or help his leftward democratic party base feel good about finally doing what they’ve wanted to have done for a long time -show the dead soldiers, show the coffins, undercut the american perception of the value of the war in afghanistan.

txanne, you’re hacking on mi-gop for all the wrong reasons. he’s (she’s) just speaking truth to power.

Suppose Nixon had beat JFK in 1960 and become President. What do you suppose President Nixon would have done?

I really would like to hear how YOU think the Vietnam War COULD have been won. And at what cost.

The JFK administration began to realize that the Diem government in Saigon was not doing the job. But the assassination of Diem in 1963 didn’t improve the situation; rather, it further destabilized the South Vietnamese government.

With the accumulated experience of 40 years of counterinsurgency warfare, experts like Petraeus now know this is no way to fight a counterinsurgency war. But in 1963, the U.S. Army had never fought this kind of war before. I do not blame them, or our civilian leadership, for being baffled as to how to win. We lost, fair and square; the enemy had a better strategy, and they beat us.

I’m glad that we have learned our lessons since then.

“I hope not. In 1963, a bunch of Cut & Run cowards were in the White house prepping to ditch our allies to the snares of their enemies, our military was quickly being outclassed by superior technology and determination by our foe, the American underbelly had grown fat and lazy in its political sloth, we were deep in a presidency which many had come to appreciate as being a bad choice, Americans were questioning whether or not there was a Manifest Destiny and our enemies were laughing at our incapacity to maintain resolve in the face of adversity.”

……….This would explain why LBJ the next year won depending on your definition the first or second largest landslide in US history……. And the US was being outclassed by the superior technology of the Viet Minh?…..really?

……….And you’re a lawyer in MI……right?