Wouldn’t it mean that any pregnant woman who interferes in any way with her developing embryos or fetuses would be guilty of violating the Constitution? And isn’t that a very serious criminal charge?

2) When has not an American majority, or even a minority, forced its values down the throats of other Americans? Moral issues of the American past include slavery, segregation, democratcy for white males, voting rights for women and blacks, the 8 hour work day, unionism, minimum wage laws, Social Security for the old, medicare for the old, medicaid for the poor, food stamps for the poor, determination age of consent for sex and marriage, smoking, drunk driving, affirmative action, fair housing laws etc., etc. American history is filled with examples of government legislating some sort of morality or another.

“Have you read the GOP Platform? On social issues, it’s hard-right, not center-right. It advocates a Constitutional Amendment–the Human Life Amendment–which would not only overturn Roe v. Wade but make abortion illegal everywhere in the nation, even in its most liberal areas. But it goes even further. It advocates Federal legislation which would extend Fourteenth Amendment rights to “the unborn”–fetuses and even embryos. If that ever became law (extremely unlikely), than any woman who was seeking to get pregnant by In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) could be arrested by the FBI and end up in Federal prison, because most of the embryos used in IVF are eventually discarded and end up dead. Her physician could end up in Federal prison for aiding and abetting”

Hyperbole much, sinz54? Gheesh. Far Right goons sending the FBI to arrest women using IVF procedures? Get off the nitrous oxide and start breathing oxygen again, ok?

Like Independent said above, Madam Speaker’s far Left radical agenda won’t help her party hold onto to those seats, nor as many as 62 blue dog seats in red-trending states. Self-preservation tells a politician that the first rule of staying in office is “do no harm”… and NancyBoTox is a one-woman wrecking crew for many of these blue dogs.

For instance, in Michigan, the state GOP has been hammering away at our 2 newest blue dogs, Schauer and Peters, on their votes to astronomically raise the deficit, raise taxes, increase govt interference in the private sector, undercut our military and put them in greater Harm’s Way, embrace wholesale vote corruption and engage in petty partisan warfare instead of fixing the economy, win the wars that Bush was winning, reign in Wall St and end the divisiveness ripe in Congress and the White House. This weekend, Schauer said to a group of small biz supporters: “I wish the health care public option would just go away and stay away”.

So it’s working on him, clearly. Those two blue dogs have a 41% and 43% approval rating even though they’ve been in office less than 1 yr. Ouch, that’s gotta hurt even as thick a partisan hide as your’s automaticBS.

Meanwhile, GOP congressmen like Upton, Camp, Rogers, Ehlers, Miller and McCotter enjoy an average of 53% approval ratings –higher than the Obama.

Like Independent said here, NancyBoTox and her radical agenda and record of shameful corruption won’t be an aid to the blue dogs; even if she can stiff arm them to vote her way. It’ll be a trail of tears leading back to Washington for the blue dogs if they follow her like lemmings to the sea.

out-of-control religious right that is determined to enforce it’s own standard of morality on the rest of society.

It’s unlikely they can do this.

But what they advocate can be both embarrassing and frightening.

Embarrassing, as when nationally known conservatives say on TV that Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is false. (That stance isn’t going to play well with the college educated in the Blue states.)

Frightening, as when social conservatives advocate giving Fourteenth Amendment rights to embryos.

Independent:

i’ve not found the gop to be either “backward, discriminatory and un-american” as motor-mouth above thinks.

Have you read the GOP Platform? On social issues, it’s hard-right, not center-right. It advocates a Constitutional Amendment–the Human Life Amendment–which would not only overturn Roe v. Wade but make abortion illegal everywhere in the nation, even in its most liberal areas.

But it goes even further. It advocates Federal legislation which would extend Fourteenth Amendment rights to “the unborn”–fetuses and even embryos. If that ever became law (extremely unlikely), than any woman who was seeking to get pregnant by In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) could be arrested by the FBI and end up in Federal prison, because most of the embryos used in IVF are eventually discarded and end up dead. Her physician could end up in Federal prison for aiding and abetting.

Social conservatives, remember, weren’t just against abortion. They were against IVF, and even against birth control. Kathryn Jean Lopez, new editor of the National Review after Buckley passed away, is continuing to write columns even now about what a disaster the birth control pill has been.

Given that zillions of American women are “on the Pill,” to hear the premier conservative journal denouncing it could well frighten them.

The conservative movement has to make its peace with the Pill and IVF. That much is necessary in the 21st century. To wistfully look back on the years before 1960 when women were afraid to have sex isn’t conservative. It’s reactionary.

Well said and right on target.

ottovbvs:

Keep thinking this way – I want the left to continue with their arrogant misreading of the results of the ‘08 election. Please continue thinking that the election results of ‘08 gives you a “mandate” to exponentially increase the size of government, socialize big business, and tax away more and more private property from citizens. Please continue to assert that Marx is more relevent today than Madison.

Please keep it up. Your defeat will be more pronounced in ‘10 as a result of your delusional thinking. But take heart – when Congress flips back to the GOP next year, that will probably save Obama from defeat in ‘12, and allow him to serve another term (although he’ll be relatively powerless, thank God).

‘i am not a fan of the club for growth or that brand of conservatism which places tax policy at the head of all govt decision-making, but i think there are very few lessons or opportunities for the democrats or far left to crow about in the ny-23 outcome.’

………..Last weekend Pelosi had 256 votes, this weekend she’ll have 258……the Dems won both races that have any impact on the national agenda…….meanwhile the internal GOP waves from NY 23 are only just starting

the democrats will have to work hard to keep the seat in the next election and, from what Ms Pelosi has been saying about all the left agenda items that still need attention, the ny-23 congressman isn’t going to get any help from her.

i’ve not found the gop to be either “backward, discriminatory and un-american” as motor-mouth above thinks. i think the lesson from ny-23 for the gop is to not allow local kingmakers to make decisions and advance candidates without sufficient staff input from the rnc or hrcc. that is the role of those guys and it’s what they’re getting paid for. i think mr steele learned that lesson from the ny-23 results.

as for rinos being pushed to the side, i can only remind the trolls here that now nj governor chris christie first off thanked two major, prominent rinos for helping him win election: former nj gov tom kean and former nj governor christy tood whitman. doesn’t seem like the rinos inside the gop are being pushed to the margins, does it? i think all that talk from the far left here is just wishful thinking and political manipulation on their part.

The Republican Party is saddled with a lot of folks who want to use their Bibles to beat other people over the head, and until those idiots get put in their place the GOP will be a regional party at best, and a joke at worst. Once again: the GOP’s backward, discriminatory and un-American stance on the social issues absolutely does matter.