Comments on: The Lunacy of the Birthers http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ottovbvs http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-59080 ottovbvs Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:59:49 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-59080 ........Of course you don't need a birth certificate when you get a driving license in a new state.....I've had five different state licenses and not produced a certificate yet.....I did to get a passport though.....Perhaps Obama hasn't got a passport .......and there is a birth certificate out there.....the fruitcakes just don't accept it......because they are not interested in accepting anything....at the end of the day it's a mixture of racism and political partisanship......I hope they keep it up it makes the GOP look like a bunch of alien abductionists. ……..Of course you don’t need a birth certificate when you get a driving license in a new state…..I’ve had five different state licenses and not produced a certificate yet…..I did to get a passport though…..Perhaps Obama hasn’t got a passport …….and there is a birth certificate out there…..the fruitcakes just don’t accept it……because they are not interested in accepting anything….at the end of the day it’s a mixture of racism and political partisanship……I hope they keep it up it makes the GOP look like a bunch of alien abductionists.

]]> By: Koso http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-59079 Koso Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:54:44 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-59079 I have just returned from a 3 month travel through Africa and you know what they call the Republican part. A third world country! Yes, we have become a thrid world country because we will do anything to win a election or destroy one. They do it becuase government is the only sure way to riches. What is our reason? I have just returned from a 3 month travel through Africa and you know what they call the Republican part. A third world country! Yes, we have become a thrid world country because we will do anything to win a election or destroy one. They do it becuase government is the only sure way to riches. What is our reason?

]]> By: midcon http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-59037 midcon Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:22:25 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-59037 yeah, major mike and as an ex-marine you would think that you understood that there is no law that requires politicians to provide such evidence. And it appears that you have never movde to another state and had to get a driver's licence or you would know that in most states (maybe all, I did not bother to check) all you need is a valid licence from your old state. Your status as a vet smells "fishey" to me. yeah, major mike and as an ex-marine you would think that you understood that there is no law that requires politicians to provide such evidence. And it appears that you have never movde to another state and had to get a driver’s licence or you would know that in most states (maybe all, I did not bother to check) all you need is a valid licence from your old state. Your status as a vet smells “fishey” to me.

]]> By: MajMike http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-59009 MajMike Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:46:06 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-59009 Y'know, Idon't know if Obama was born in the US or not but why the coverup? Just produce a birth certificate with a state seal ( y'know like the one I have to provide to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles when I get a driver's license in a new state). To an old vet, this smells 'fishey' to me. ....perhaps I should report it? Y’know, Idon’t know if Obama was born in the US or not but why the coverup? Just produce a birth certificate with a state seal ( y’know like the one I have to provide to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles when I get a driver’s license in a new state). To an old vet, this smells ‘fishey’ to me. ….perhaps I should report it?

]]> By: ottovbvs http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-58995 ottovbvs Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:04:36 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-58995 tommy-boy // Aug 9, 2009 at 5:31 pm “………..which pundits would they be?…..no prizes for guessing” See the other thread for the links I have provided to support my assertion that McDonnell is making the race about Barack Obama .......They are all from conservative pundits or journalists quoting Republican sources.......I don't dispute the Republicans are framing it that way and very offten the media goes along they framed was it NY 20 that way until they lost then it was nothing to do with national issues......You're welcome to proselytize just don't expect the rest of us to believe it tommy-boy // Aug 9, 2009 at 5:31 pm

“………..which pundits would they be?…..no prizes for guessing”

See the other thread for the links I have provided to support my assertion that McDonnell is making the race about Barack Obama

…….They are all from conservative pundits or journalists quoting Republican sources…….I don’t dispute the Republicans are framing it that way and very offten the media goes along they framed was it NY 20 that way until they lost then it was nothing to do with national issues……You’re welcome to proselytize just don’t expect the rest of us to believe it

]]> By: Geoff C http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-58987 Geoff C Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:36:31 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-58987 ireign // Aug 9, 2009 at 10:10 am "Please stop giving this story more attention than this deserves. " I think this is exactly the attention that it deserves. Crackpot theories need to be publicly denounced by Republican politicians and pundits. Everyone thinks this stuff is crazy but the GOP insiders don't deny it for some reason. Look at Limbaugh, its the same thing and its time conservatives put a lid on their crazy fringe theories, the way that they are publicly denounced on the <a title="Bill" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7-XfE7KcU&feature=related" rel="nofollow">left</a>. ireign // Aug 9, 2009 at 10:10 am

“Please stop giving this story more attention than this deserves. ”

I think this is exactly the attention that it deserves. Crackpot theories need to be publicly denounced by Republican politicians and pundits. Everyone thinks this stuff is crazy but the GOP insiders don’t deny it for some reason. Look at Limbaugh, its the same thing and its time conservatives put a lid on their crazy fringe theories, the way that they are publicly denounced on the left.

]]> By: Tommy Boy http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-58984 Tommy Boy Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:31:21 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-58984 "………..which pundits would they be?…..no prizes for guessing" See the other thread for the links I have provided to support my assertion that McDonnell is making the race about Barack Obama. “………..which pundits would they be?…..no prizes for guessing”

See the other thread for the links I have provided to support my assertion that McDonnell is making the race about Barack Obama.

]]> By: Tommy Boy http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-58983 Tommy Boy Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:30:33 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-58983 Nate Silver? Let me educate you about what he said about Rasmussen: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/tracking-poll-primer.html "In summation, none of these tracking polls are perfect, although Rasmussen -- with its large sample size and high pollster rating -- would probably be the one I'd want with me on a desert island. Conversely, the only one of the trackers that I consider obviously dubious is Zogby." Nate Silver? Let me educate you about what he said about Rasmussen:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/tracking-poll-primer.html

“In summation, none of these tracking polls are perfect, although Rasmussen — with its large sample size and high pollster rating — would probably be the one I’d want with me on a desert island. Conversely, the only one of the trackers that I consider obviously dubious is Zogby.”

]]> By: ottovbvs http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-58957 ottovbvs Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:08:07 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-58957 tommy-boy // Aug 9, 2009 at 2:18 pm "McDonnell is defeating Deeds by a mile because he’s effectively running against Barack Obama according to the pundits. " ...........which pundits would they be?.....no prizes for guessing tommy-boy // Aug 9, 2009 at 2:18 pm
“McDonnell is defeating Deeds by a mile because he’s effectively running against Barack Obama according to the pundits. ”

………..which pundits would they be?…..no prizes for guessing

]]> By: ottovbvs http://www.frumforum.com/the-lunacy-of-the-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-58956 ottovbvs Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:06:04 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9578#comment-58956 tommy-boy // Aug 9, 2009 at 2:14 pm "Is now PPP(D) biased and in the tank for Republicans just as Rasmussen? PPP(D) only was the most accurate state-by-state pollster in the 2008 general election, just as Rasmussen was one of the most accurate pollsters for the general election nationally." .........Did I say the poll was biassed? All I did was question the methodology of automated phone polls which I think is highly suspect conceptually but you're completely free to believe them. I simply don't know enough about this race or this poll to get into a detailed argument about it so you can demonstrate how clever you are and I don't think it's worth the effort to correct these deficiencies......Sorry........As for Rassmussen he is considered somewhat suspect by both the folks at Pollster and Nate Silver which sends up some red flags for me and speaking from memory I seem to remember in the run up to November he consistently had Obama underperforming people like Gallup, CBS, WSJ and then miraculously in the last ten days he closed the gap which perhaps indicates something tommy-boy // Aug 9, 2009 at 2:14 pm
“Is now PPP(D) biased and in the tank for Republicans just as Rasmussen? PPP(D) only was the most accurate state-by-state pollster in the 2008 general election, just as Rasmussen was one of the most accurate pollsters for the general election nationally.”

………Did I say the poll was biassed? All I did was question the methodology of automated phone polls which I think is highly suspect conceptually but you’re completely free to believe them. I simply don’t know enough about this race or this poll to get into a detailed argument about it so you can demonstrate how clever you are and I don’t think it’s worth the effort to correct these deficiencies……Sorry……..As for Rassmussen he is considered somewhat suspect by both the folks at Pollster and Nate Silver which sends up some red flags for me and speaking from memory I seem to remember in the run up to November he consistently had Obama underperforming people like Gallup, CBS, WSJ and then miraculously in the last ten days he closed the gap which perhaps indicates something

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