” Frum won’t run this forum like RedState, or FreeRepublic”

…….and how would you define the mental state of regular posters on these blogs?

“WOW, just signed on here, is this the usual level of debate!! Why is this GOPer guy so angry?”

……I would have thought it was fairly obvious……have a laugh…..tune him out……there are some good contributors

Because for some reason, Frum won’t run this forum like RedState, or FreeRepublic, and kick off anyone who challenges Republican heterodoxy. I think that Frum actually believes that dealing with viewpoints from across the aisle actually creates a marketplace of ideas which challenges Republicans to better evaluate their own suppositions will create a stronger Republican Party.

This frustrates MI-GOPer to no extreme, since he believes that declared loyalty to the Republican Party should be the price of admission here.

I am continually amazed at the posts on this blog and how far away from the original point Frum makes/any question he asked. Always entertaining, but also becoming predictable. Can GOP supporters ever just deal with the reality of a question without devolving into ad hominem attacks on other bloggers and the opposition? Some on this blog do, but many do not.

It would be refreshing to have these conversations where several did not resort to well-worn rhetoric, or sophomoric terms. This kind of nasty, unproductive argument is exactly why the GOP got waxed in ‘08. Can anyone articulate- What the DOES the GOP stand for? And try to do this without using the words liberal, socialist, black, Maoist, urine-soaked, Kool-Aid drinker etc…Most importantly, can you do it without saying “not Democrats”?

Frankly, I didn’t give a damn what color Obama was in ‘08. I voted for him because I was tired of an entire party SCREAMING what they didn’t want without ever being able to articulate what they do want. The Democrats’ plans need to be held in check (but won’t be by a childish GOP legislative bunch), but you know what? At least they had some. And if proud GOPers don’t start holding their elected officials to a standard higher than anarchy and chaos, ‘10 and ‘12 will be a repeat of ‘08.

I know the truth upsets you, automaticBSer. Go ahead and take a good drag on the pink stuff… under ObamaCare, it may be the only unrationed item in medicine when they get done.

Obama will have added some $185b in deficits in 2009…

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

Maybe that’s why more and more Americans think Obama is the biggest part of the problem, his efforts on THEIR #1 issue of deficit reduction has them at 65% saying he’s doing nothing to help or he’s hurting the cause. And it’s also why more Americans are saying the recession is the Democrats’ fault and the GOP will be better on the economy.

Its gotta hurt when you are so wrong, automaticBSer, so often, on so much.

……….pepto bismol time again

BlankHead, rewriting history and hoping no one takes note now says: “(why didn’t the GOP agree to all the democrat big govt manipulations) … with the promise of an expedited passage of key reforms, with the whole public option to be something to tackle soon down the road, it is possible the Dems might have taken the deal.” Yeah, like the democrats were even interested in compromise.

Easy to answer, BlankHead. I’m not surprised someone so deeply mired in the democrat pile can’t see the answer for the trees.

Your fleckless leader, Obama Messiah and his chief thug, Rahm Emanuel, made it quite clear –as you have here repeatedly– that the election created a mandate for action on health care reform… even if we don’t lower the costs of health care, even if we can’t cover everyone, even if we need to cut MediCare, even if we balloon the deficit so that it looks like a rotting corpse in a pair of Chicago cement-boots and then bankrupt the states with unmet mandated spending… oh and ask grandma to head home to the family and go quietly so that scarce medical resources can be retasked to important things like giving Democrat constitutents access to abortion on demand.

Your president (no, he is definitely not “my president” even though I am an American) made it quite clear that bipartisan action on health care reform was unnecessary. He made it quite clear that he’d take the leading GOP proposal and turn it into some farflung limited “test” program in a few states to see how it worked… he made it clear that the GOP would be hands off on meaningful litigation reform and any attempt to constrain the Democrat-rich sleaze trial lawyer base would be rebuffed… Obama made it clear that opening up health insurance so that buyers weren’t constrained by the in-state monopolies (which aid the Blues, which are big contributors to the Dems) was a no-go… Obama made it clear that addressing the outrageous drug research/FDA lead time/drug recapture timeframes would “not be meddled with” –his words from an Oct 2008 speech… and Obama made it clear that getting the biggest drivers of sprialing health care costs –the hospitals– would not be grist because Obama had already cut his deal, like he did with his pals at BigPharm, with the democrat-supporting American Hospital Assn.

Obama similarly told the Chamber of Commerce, an ally of the GOP, that their involvement was not needed or warranted in the health care un-reform debate. Wow, that was some effort at reaching out and being bipartisan… such a guy that Obama Messiah. I guess if you don’t worship and pray to his image, you can’t expect to be consulted on the biggest social reform that will impact job providers, can you?

So, once again, BlankHead, spitting out the ol’ Democrat activists’ talking points causes you more problems than you solve with another of your facile rhetorical questions.

Like AutomaticBSer says above, the democrats never intended to compromise. It was all the usual DC game of smoke and mirrors by the democrats. Same ol, same ol from the side that promised Hope & Change and, by that, frauded Americans out of an election.

“No, they can’t appeal to them. I’m one of them and my own parents tried the tactic you bring up. It didn’t work on me and likely won’t for the vast majority of people my age.”

……Sinz thinks college grads being the best educated segment of the population have the worst memories