Comments on: The Illusion Of Vice Presidents

By: Bulldoglover100

Bulldoglover100 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:07:41 +0000

May not give much boost but Sarah Palin on the ticket drove the moderates to the left faster than she could shoot a moose and belch “You Betcha”.

By: suey

suey — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:44:05 +0000

Real, did you see the new Gallop poll of state voter identification? Only 5 states are now showing as firm Republican. If that is the real position it represents a further shift since November. See http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/State-States-Political-Party-Affiliation.aspx
I like the people here in general, they are polite and kind to me as a pain in the a$$ Liberal. I don’t like echo chambers and I like to learn more than the accepted point of view of my side of the divide. Thank you for your respect. I will probably disappoint you at some stage.

By: realconservativ

realconservativ — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:10:45 +0000

Suey, easy mistake to make (Both “I” states). I used to live in Indiana. The northwest section is very Democratic as is Indianapolis. I don’t think being black is a detriment; in fact it may have been a plus. The Bradley effect certainly didn’t kick in in 2008. My son is a college student who is a waiter at a restaurant and he said everyone but him voted for Obama because “he’s cool.” I am not going to continue any conversations with Hollywood since it’s impossible to have a rational discussion. Why try to converse with someone who just has endless rants. Suey, while we disagree, I respect you.

By: HollywoodBill

HollywoodBill — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:49:28 +0000

Palin still lost. Nothing is going to change that inescapable fact. She couldn’t hold the line in any swing states. Sarah Palin is the sweetheart of the snake handling brigade. The social conservatives are losing the Mountain West. The Republican Party is changing from a big tent to a Revival Tent. She brings nothing new to the GOP. She is a failed relic. She and the Louisiana excorcist are total anachronisms. They really are the last two dinosaurs standing after the meteor strike. Personal attacks are the last resort of those who have nothing relevant to add to the discussion and are losing the debate. Despite the sad rantings, Palin LOST.

By: suey

suey — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:43:04 +0000

My Bad, I clicked Iowa on the map in error. Point still stands, no Conservative should loose Indiana to a Black Democrat.

By: realconservativ

realconservativ — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:30:42 +0000

Suey, if you’re going to mistate facts, at least try to come close. McCain lost Indiana by 1%, not 9% as you claimed. Hollywood. I’ll go slow so you understand. Both Michigan senators and governors are Democrats. All are serving at least their second term. A Republican presidential candidate has not carried Michigan since 1988. McCain decided to pull out of Michigan with almost a month left in the campaign. Do you search out websites so you can bash this woman? I get the distinct impression that you have seldom, if ever, voted for any Republicans (moderate or conservative). It’s her right to run in the primaries; you don’t have to vote for her. That’s what democracy is all about. Are you an old guy? You sound like an old guy.

By: suey

suey — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:30:25 +0000

Lets face it you did not have any candidates capable of winning in 2008. They were all a sorry bunch of has beens. Palin even with her major inadaquacies was at least a fresh face. Plus she gave us all the best comedy of the electoral season.

By: suey

suey — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:26:34 +0000

Hollywood, You risk getting banned!

By: HollywoodBill

HollywoodBill — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:18:38 +0000

McCain/Palin lost Michigan. If her job was to hold the base, she failed miserably in Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida among others. Conservative websites? Please. Those are populated with the disgruntled, never satisfied and dittoheads. While the amount of ads mattered, the reality is that the American public has rejected the theocratic wing of the GOP outside of the South and the Bible Belt. Only in the minds of the social conservatives is she a major player. At best she is a regional candidate with zero appeal to Independents and moderate voters. She is a religious extremist. She appeals to the Buchanan wing of the GOP. She is not mainstream and never will be. She does not bring in a single crossover vote. At best she follows the Rovian methods for elections: Bring out wedge issues, shake as many social conservatives out to vote as possible and hope for the best. It is her views that are out of touch with today’s voters. She cannot bring a single Obama state into play. And she is as responsible for the electoral loss as McCain. She failed in capturing a single swing state. The Palinistas can claim whatever they like. The reality is that she is a loser. She cannot win electoral votes. She represents total failure.

By: realconservativ

realconservativ — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:00:27 +0000

HollywoodBill – you are writing off too many things – the media, Obama outspending McCain 5-1, the ineptness of McCain’s campaign staff and the RNC. Sarah Palin’s job was to hold the base. She did that. John McCain’s was to attract voters in the middle he did not. Palin excited the base and attracted crowds of 20,000 or more. Before Palin came aboard, McCain was attracting crowds of less than 500. He was out of money. Go to conservative sites like freerepublic, redstate, hotair, polipundit and you’ll see how strong Sarah Palin’s appeal is with the base of the GOP. Now that SarahPAC has been announced, conservatives are giving to it instead of the RNC. Palin was marginalized by the media and mismanaged by McCain’s staff. As much as you’d like to see her go away, it isn’t going to happen and millions of conservatives don’t want her to go away. I live in a Detroit suburb (65,000 population) that the GOP carried, which shows how outrageous your claims are. She is a major player; learn to live with it and you will be much happier.