Comments on: The GOP’s Bleak Future

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:45:47 +0000

I’ve never heard of it being used as a pejorative in any context, at any time.

Although now it does make the person using it look bad, fwiw.

Back then it was most certainly considered a compliment.

By: Churl

Churl — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:47:36 +0000

balconesfault, in your Texas days was the phrase “that’s mighty white of you” pejorative, as it seems to be now?

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:43:13 +0000

Certainly when I was young, growing up in Texas, I heard the phrase “that’s mighty white of you” used many times.

By: Churl

Churl — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:23:13 +0000

ottovbs, says, “I particularly liked the “good white people….”

Yes, the phrase encompasses the sort of thought that a “typical white person” (e.g. somebody’s grandma) would respond to immediately.

By: ottovbvs

ottovbvs — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:18:59 +0000

balconesfault // Oct 28, 2009 at 11:45 am

…….You’re right about population shifts pushing some states further left…..Florida is going solid blue mark my words now that Cuba is fading as an issue

…….The Zogby poll is so bizarre one almost wonders if it’s a prank but apparently it’s kosher

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:45:06 +0000

………most Americans live in urban areas……inner cities or the burbs……outside the South/Utah these went overwhelmingly for Obama and the Democrats

Moreover – look at this map, and click on the County Leaders tab
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html

note that in Texas, for example, Travis County (Austin) and Tarrant County (Dallas) are dark blue … Harris County (Houston) and Bexar County (San Antonio) are light blue. Zoom into Georgia – you’ll find the counties for Atlanta, Savannah, Macon, Augusta are all blue. Alabama? Mobile and Huntsville remain red, Birmingham and Montgomery blue. Mississippi? The county with Jackson is blue. Arkansas? Little Rock and Pine Bluff are in blue counties.

As urban populations continue to grow in these states – in no small part due to migrants from the north – their influence on statewide voting will correspondingly grow.

And yes – that Zogby quasi push-poll is a remarkable “what are they thinking” moment.

By: Differing Interpretations of the GOP’s Future « Astroturf Superstar

Differing Interpretations of the GOP’s Future « Astroturf Superstar — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:23:29 +0000

[...] Frum, however, comes to a very different conclusion. Instead, he sees a bleak future for the GOP: So while Bill’s predictions of continuing conservative/populist dominance within the GOP look [...]

By: ottovbvs

ottovbvs — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:58:29 +0000

…….On the subject of Polls……here’s a couple of recent poll question from Zogby whose polls are sometimes quoted here by conservatives:

“Federal Communications Commission Chief Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd wants the FCC to force good white people in positions of power in the broadcast industry to step down to make room for more African-Americans and gays to fill those positions. Do you agree or disagree that this presents a threat to free speech?”

“The Obama administration recently declared that the White House would treat the Fox News Channel as an ‘opponent,’ and declared that Fox News is not a ‘legitimate
news organization.’ Do you agree or disagree that this is an attempt by the Obama administration to silence dissent?”

……..I particularly liked the “good white people”……It’s really hard to make this stuff up……..God knows who he was doing them for but I think we can see the result they wanted!

By: ottovbvs

ottovbvs — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:40:01 +0000

orion // Oct 28, 2009 at 1:41 am

“Effectively this country is Conservative because there’s a majority or plurality of conservatives everywhere except the most densely packed urban areas;”

………most Americans live in urban areas……inner cities or the burbs……outside the South/Utah these went overwhelmingly for Obama and the Democrats

By: Thanos

Thanos — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:38:27 +0000

I like party identification: it’s a clearer indicator. You can see that R’s are shrinking, L’s and I’s are increasing. Trying to be “more or most conservative” will not stop that bleeding.