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		<title>By: PWallgren</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/the-gop-is-not-a-cult/comment-page-6#comment-81145</link>
		<dc:creator>PWallgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Wright, given that you don&#039;t have children yourself I don&#039;t think you should write such strongly worded thoughts on how to &quot;punish&quot; parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Wright, given that you don&#8217;t have children yourself I don&#8217;t think you should write such strongly worded thoughts on how to &#8220;punish&#8221; parents.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristianMiller</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/the-gop-is-not-a-cult/comment-page-6#comment-42875</link>
		<dc:creator>ChristianMiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whospeaksforyou,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hahaha. Opposition to gay marriage=homophobia! That&#039;s a riot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whospeaksforyou,</p>
<p>Hahaha. Opposition to gay marriage=homophobia! That&#8217;s a riot!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Tesla</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/the-gop-is-not-a-cult/comment-page-6#comment-45091</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Tesla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how liberals come in here and start smearing conservatives as racists, sexists, and homophobes, and then they falsely suggest we want to harness the &quot;homophobia&quot; of blacks as a way back to power. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did point out that a majority of blacks oppose gay marriage in polls that I saw, which was in contradiction to what the Crystal lady asserted. I don&#039;t equate opposition to gay marriage to homophobia and hatred for gay people...that&#039;s a liberal construct.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how liberals come in here and start smearing conservatives as racists, sexists, and homophobes, and then they falsely suggest we want to harness the &#8220;homophobia&#8221; of blacks as a way back to power. </p>
<p>I did point out that a majority of blacks oppose gay marriage in polls that I saw, which was in contradiction to what the Crystal lady asserted. I don&#8217;t equate opposition to gay marriage to homophobia and hatred for gay people&#8230;that&#8217;s a liberal construct.  </p>
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		<title>By: whospeaksforyou</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/the-gop-is-not-a-cult/comment-page-6#comment-51614</link>
		<dc:creator>whospeaksforyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great idea!  Harness the homophobia of African-Americans as a path back to power for the GOP.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoy your years in the wilderness.  And keep up the brilliant suggestions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;whospeaksforyou.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great idea!  Harness the homophobia of African-Americans as a path back to power for the GOP.</p>
<p>Enjoy your years in the wilderness.  And keep up the brilliant suggestions.</p>
<p>whospeaksforyou.com</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/the-gop-is-not-a-cult/comment-page-6#comment-43487</link>
		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But he felt it was important to keep trying. Not just because every vote counts, particularly in urbanized states.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kemp&#039;s outreach here mirrors the conflict within the Democratic Party over the DLC plan (focus resources on Democratic strongholds) versus Howard Dean&#039;s 50-state plan (don&#039;t ceed huge portions of the country/blocks of voters simply because they&#039;ve voted Republican the last few cycles).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To do that, they accepted that certain issues that were important for those northeast/west coast urban voters - such as gun control - were going to be taken off the front burner.  They pretty much announced that someone being anti-gun control wasn&#039;t going to keep the DNC from supporting them in their elections, and wasn&#039;t going to invite primary challenges.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the Dems did that without any illusions that the hardest core pro-gun voters were ever going to vote Democratic.  But for folks for whom the 2nd Amendment is a secondary issue it was a sign that the Democrats weren&#039;t as extreme anymore as they&#039;d been led to believe. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But he felt it was important to keep trying. Not just because every vote counts, particularly in urbanized states.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kemp&#8217;s outreach here mirrors the conflict within the Democratic Party over the DLC plan (focus resources on Democratic strongholds) versus Howard Dean&#8217;s 50-state plan (don&#8217;t ceed huge portions of the country/blocks of voters simply because they&#8217;ve voted Republican the last few cycles).</p>
<p>To do that, they accepted that certain issues that were important for those northeast/west coast urban voters &#8211; such as gun control &#8211; were going to be taken off the front burner.  They pretty much announced that someone being anti-gun control wasn&#8217;t going to keep the DNC from supporting them in their elections, and wasn&#8217;t going to invite primary challenges.</p>
<p>And the Dems did that without any illusions that the hardest core pro-gun voters were ever going to vote Democratic.  But for folks for whom the 2nd Amendment is a secondary issue it was a sign that the Democrats weren&#8217;t as extreme anymore as they&#8217;d been led to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/the-gop-is-not-a-cult/comment-page-6#comment-40945</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Kemp knew that it was unlikely that even a large percentage, much less a majority, of blacks would ever vote for a Republican candidate for President.  But he felt it was important to keep trying.  Not just because every vote counts, particularly in urbanized states. But because he knew that a party that writes off minorities as unreachable will be viewed by the young (who are too young to remember the bitter civil rights battles) as bigoted or narrow-minded.  It&#039;s bad press for a major American party to let itself be defined as the party of white people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And yet, that&#039;s what I keep hearing from the GOP base.  They are perfectly content to let the GOP be the party of older white people.  They have no interest whatsoever in working to appeal to Hispanics (who are the fastest-growing voting bloc in America).  They have no interest whatsoever in working to appeal to young people.  And no one has taken up Jack Kemp&#039;s cause of outreach to African-Americans.  Rather, they wrote a party platform that reflects their views, and they&#039;re presenting it to the rest of America on a &quot;Take it or leave it&quot; basis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This insularity is going to doom the GOP--if it&#039;s not changed.  No one seems to notice that married white Protestants, the GOP&#039;s bread and butter, are now down to only 51% of the electorate--and that percentage keeps dropping.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Kemp knew that it was unlikely that even a large percentage, much less a majority, of blacks would ever vote for a Republican candidate for President.  But he felt it was important to keep trying.  Not just because every vote counts, particularly in urbanized states. But because he knew that a party that writes off minorities as unreachable will be viewed by the young (who are too young to remember the bitter civil rights battles) as bigoted or narrow-minded.  It&#8217;s bad press for a major American party to let itself be defined as the party of white people.</p>
<p>And yet, that&#8217;s what I keep hearing from the GOP base.  They are perfectly content to let the GOP be the party of older white people.  They have no interest whatsoever in working to appeal to Hispanics (who are the fastest-growing voting bloc in America).  They have no interest whatsoever in working to appeal to young people.  And no one has taken up Jack Kemp&#8217;s cause of outreach to African-Americans.  Rather, they wrote a party platform that reflects their views, and they&#8217;re presenting it to the rest of America on a &#8220;Take it or leave it&#8221; basis.</p>
<p>This insularity is going to doom the GOP&#8211;if it&#8217;s not changed.  No one seems to notice that married white Protestants, the GOP&#8217;s bread and butter, are now down to only 51% of the electorate&#8211;and that percentage keeps dropping.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best I could tell, Giuliani lost the nomination because ... well ... the more he was around voters, the less they liked him.  And unfortunately, perhaps because of a plan his strategists came up with to boost his standings wrt national defense, rather than emphasizing competence in government, his campaign did sound a lot like the glib Biden characterization of it - a noun, a verb and 9/11.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the general election, Giuliani would have suffered similarly to McCain - I can&#039;t remember anywhere where Giuliani seemed ready to draw a distinction between how he&#039;d govern, and how Bush had governed over the last 8 years.  That was an anchor for any Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best I could tell, Giuliani lost the nomination because &#8230; well &#8230; the more he was around voters, the less they liked him.  And unfortunately, perhaps because of a plan his strategists came up with to boost his standings wrt national defense, rather than emphasizing competence in government, his campaign did sound a lot like the glib Biden characterization of it &#8211; a noun, a verb and 9/11.</p>
<p>In the general election, Giuliani would have suffered similarly to McCain &#8211; I can&#8217;t remember anywhere where Giuliani seemed ready to draw a distinction between how he&#8217;d govern, and how Bush had governed over the last 8 years.  That was an anchor for any Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/the-gop-is-not-a-cult/comment-page-5#comment-48307</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KL7212:  Giuliani got a better reception than I expected, when he addressed a meeting of Christian evangelicals.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First of all, he was honest with them about having a different view on abortion.  He stuck to his guns and didn&#039;t try to pander or flip-flop, the way Romney had done.  They respected that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then, he recited some reasons why they should support him:  His strong stance against crime and urban decay; his staunch support for Israel; his strong stand against Islamic terrorism (he reminded them that he was willing to call it &quot;Islamic&quot; in public).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a number of reasons why Giuliani didn&#039;t win the nomination.  But lack of support from Christian evangelicals wasn&#039;t one of them. After all, McCain managed to win the nomination without their support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KL7212:  Giuliani got a better reception than I expected, when he addressed a meeting of Christian evangelicals.  </p>
<p>First of all, he was honest with them about having a different view on abortion.  He stuck to his guns and didn&#8217;t try to pander or flip-flop, the way Romney had done.  They respected that.</p>
<p>Then, he recited some reasons why they should support him:  His strong stance against crime and urban decay; his staunch support for Israel; his strong stand against Islamic terrorism (he reminded them that he was willing to call it &#8220;Islamic&#8221; in public).</p>
<p>There are a number of reasons why Giuliani didn&#8217;t win the nomination.  But lack of support from Christian evangelicals wasn&#8217;t one of them. After all, McCain managed to win the nomination without their support.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristianMiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristianMiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umuolo Yeah, that&#039;s right. You are not allowed to vote for Republicans. I forbid you. We all forbid you. The door is closed and don&#039;t even think about pulling the lever in the voting booth for anyone who calls himself a Republican.  You are barred and excluded from the Republican party. We have our operatives spying and if we catch you voting for one of our guys.... well, it won&#039;t be pretty. You don&#039;t deserve good government, you deserve Democrats from now to eternity. Otherwise, have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umuolo Yeah, that&#8217;s right. You are not allowed to vote for Republicans. I forbid you. We all forbid you. The door is closed and don&#8217;t even think about pulling the lever in the voting booth for anyone who calls himself a Republican.  You are barred and excluded from the Republican party. We have our operatives spying and if we catch you voting for one of our guys&#8230;. well, it won&#8217;t be pretty. You don&#8217;t deserve good government, you deserve Democrats from now to eternity. Otherwise, have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: umuolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>umuolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only Dick Cheney and his types can join the Republican Party. You know, Rush, Hannity, Beck ! Blacks, who are decorated soldiers and did not get waivers to get off from serving in Vietnam needs not apply. Hispanics with brains, and a woman, too, need not apply. Gays and lesbians, definitely and absolutely, do not apply. Whitemen with narrow minded view of the world, please come right in. May I offer you some refreshment, say a glass of cristal? While you are at it, do you have some Oxy in the cabinet. How about some? Graduates with impeccable educational record of achievement, happens to have a Puerto Rican ancestry need not apply. Thank you for observing our sign that says we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, and that includes you. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only Dick Cheney and his types can join the Republican Party. You know, Rush, Hannity, Beck ! Blacks, who are decorated soldiers and did not get waivers to get off from serving in Vietnam needs not apply. Hispanics with brains, and a woman, too, need not apply. Gays and lesbians, definitely and absolutely, do not apply. Whitemen with narrow minded view of the world, please come right in. May I offer you some refreshment, say a glass of cristal? While you are at it, do you have some Oxy in the cabinet. How about some? Graduates with impeccable educational record of achievement, happens to have a Puerto Rican ancestry need not apply. Thank you for observing our sign that says we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, and that includes you. Thank you.</p>
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