Comments on: The Dems Healthcare Trap

By: rbottoms

rbottoms — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:57:21 +0000

The Democratic bill, in other words, covers 12 times as many people and saves $36 billion more than the Republican plan.

But Michael Moore is fat.

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:27:00 +0000

Also – per Ezra Klein: According to CBO, the GOP’s alternative will shave $68 billion off the deficit in the next 10 years. The Democrats, CBO says, will slice $104 billion off the deficit. The Democratic bill, in other words, covers 12 times as many people and saves $36 billion more than the Republican plan.

By: ottovbvs

ottovbvs — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:28:54 +0000

……..Today the American Medical Association and the American Association For Retired People endorsed the bill……it’s obviously dangerous legislation doomed to fail………the blue dogs may howl they are not going to bite with cover from these two organizations…….what I find most interesting about the current spin from Republicans is that they believe this is going to be unpopular……as Billy Kristol pointed out long ago it’s going to be massively popular with consequent benefits to Dems next year…..or was Billy wrong all along?

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:18:17 +0000

What the Blue Dogs miss, of course, is what the liberals see clearly: a failure on universal coverage invites a downward spiral with the liberal blogosphere tearing the party to pieces and depressing the base for 2010.

Seriously – the blogosphere really affects what percentage of the vote? We here on these various forums take ourselves way too seriously sometimes.

It can certainly affect fundraising mind you – and since Dem candidates often don’t have the big Chamber of Commerce anti-tax contributors that Repub candidates have, they have been relying a lot more on netroot contributions.

But there is no real sense in asking people to contribute to candidates who they think are acting in opposition to their main concerns.

The question Blue Dogs may have to ask is whether they could ever move far enough to the right to not draw attacks from Republicans as being dangerous liberals. I’m guessing that for most, no.