“ottovbs, regarding “bumper stickers”, I prefer to follow Mark Twain’s advice to eschew surplusage.”

…..planning a career as humorist are you…….Twain was a classic bumper sticker style writer imho……..the problem is with most issues the devil is in the details and these cannot be accomodated even on the bumpers of one of those 60’s Caddies

“Um otto, The point is the NY GOP picked a dud…”

……..In your extreme right wing opinion……she obviously looked pretty good to a lot of electors in NY 23 many of whom swithced to Owens

To address your point about the origins of Earth outside the Big Bang Theory. How many conservatives do you speculate actually believe that the Earth was created recently? I really don’t believe (there is that word again) that many conservatives do. It is a convenient smear. I certainly don’t. And if some people believe these things and yet vote Republican or conservative does not make conservatism wrong just as communists voting for Democrats doesn’t make Democrats communists.

I’m sorry that you don’t understand that believing in the Big Bang is a belief just like any other belief . It is a mere hypothesis that even the most respected physicists have admitted, is mere speculation.

They really don’t know, and as good scientists, admit to that. It is the drones who take this speculation as Gospel while ridiculing others who are also gullible believers in some other model of creation.. The philosophical question is: Since we really don’t know anything, or, at best, very little, is faith a good thing, and if so which faith best forwards humanity?

You are a default believer. At least people of faith know they are believers, you are in the category of believers who are unaware they are believers.

Today most of those thinkers have been ostracized in favor of fire-breathing dragons, which I believe is the point Frum’s been making for some time.

Actually, even before the fire-breathing dragons, the soul of the GOP got taken over by the Christian evangelicals (a.k.a. “Religious Right”). The reason why intellectuals have fled is that the evangelicals are factually wrong, scientifically wrong.

No one in the GOP has the guts to stand up for objective facts and scientific truths. I’m not talking about disagreeing with the Religious Right on morals or philosophy; most of the earlier Republican intellectuals were pro-life too. I’m talking about setting the record straight on some basic facts: The Earth really is over 4 billion years old, species on Earth really are hundreds of millions of years old and really did evolve into one another, there really was a Big Bang that began the Universe, the United States only has less than 3% of the world’s proven oil reserves, etc.

These are basic facts that any schoolchild can find out for himself from science textbooks. But a militant faith-based faction have decided to rewrite objective facts to fit better with their preconceived notions.

No intellectuals, no scientists, are going to put up with that.

Now, why

“Blame Frum whose go- along- to -get- along strategy permeates much of the GOP”

……….Going along to get along is actually one of the cardinal principles of politics in a democratic society……practical politics is about compromise………Not surprisingly the Franco and all the others extreme rightists fail to understand this……the problem with politics a outrance is you end up with regimes like the Jacobins or Bolsheviks.

OK, that’s a reiteration of the usual DailyKos talking points with just a touch of the demented anger of a MoveOn.org union goon. Frankly, oldskool, you’re the “not so brainy hyperventilator” who always yells the loudest here.

Project much, troll?”

You make my point for me. When your ideas are bankrupt and you can’t type anything thoughtful, drag eveyone else down in the mud with you… right out of The Hyperventilators/Talk-Radio/Karl Rove Playbook.

OK, that’s a reiteration of the usual DailyKos talking points with just a touch of the demented anger of a MoveOn.org union goon. Frankly, oldskool, you’re the “not so brainy hyperventilator” who always yells the loudest here.

Project much, troll?