Comments on: Social Issues Wont Win Minorities For Gop

By: ZacMorgan

ZacMorgan — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:41:08 +0000

First of all, thanks to all who have commented.

A few quick responses…I believe that sinz has correctly articulated the problems with how the GOP has dealt with the minority vote the past few years (one trip to the NAACP, the xenophobic tenor of some on the immigration debate).

And re: Latinos and illegal immigration, here’s a quote from a Pew study in 2007: Immigration has become a more important issue to Latinos since the last election. Some 79% of Hispanic registered voters now say it is an “extremely” or “very” important issue in the upcoming presidential race; up from 63% who said the same thing in June 2004. Immigration still ranks behind education, health care, the economy and crime, but it is the only issue that has risen so sharply in importance since 2004. http://pewresearch.org/pubs/652/hispanics-2008-election

Once more, thanks all for reading!

By: 24AheadDotCom

24AheadDotCom — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:19:09 +0000

Here’s what Zac Morgan wants to enable:

http://www.atlantaprogressivenews.com/news/0436.html

Note that Gutierrez doesn’t say anything out of the ordinary for dozens of people like that, it’s just a recent example of the type of people that Zac Morgan would give even more power to.

(Also: the GALEO group mentioned at the end is linked to a former Mexican consul general who now agitates *inside the U.S.* to give illegal aliens additional rights. That’s someone Zac Morgan would help obtain even more power.)

By: 24AheadDotCom

24AheadDotCom — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:36:07 +0000

Zac Morgan writes: “Hispanics have very conclusively shown that their political allegiance is tied to other issues, particularly immigration”

1. According to Pew, when they weren’t given a series of choices, only 6% of Hispanics named immigration as influencing their vote.

2. It would seem to be a losing position for the GOP to give even more power to far-left and racial power groups, yet that’s what N-a-d-l-e-r Zac Morgan would do. “Reform” would give groups like the NCLR a terrible amount of power, and they’d use that to push for more immigration and more power.

3. “Reform” would also give even more power inside the U.S. to the Mexicangovernment, and they’d do the same thing the NCLR would do.

Opposing “reform” isn’t just the best solution for the GOP, it’s the American choice.

Visit my site and subscribe to my feed to find out all the things N-a-d-l-e-r Zac Morgan don’t understand.

By: Michael INdy

Michael INdy — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:27:58 +0000

Rhampton: and I’ll bet that many African-American and Latinos really like some of the “evils” of conservatism (like freedom) and dislike some of the “good” in multi-culturalism (like the disintegration of the family). That’s why speaking honestly and intelligently about social issues is a good thing and a net positive for the GOP. Are such issues going to “win” minorities for the GOP? No, I think not. But, honesty will help in the long run.

By: Rhampton

Rhampton — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:32:06 +0000

Michael INdy – I would bet that many African-American and Latinos really like some of the “evils” of multi-culturalism (like tolerance) and dislike some of the “good” in tradition (like white Anglo-Saxon Protestant control of society). That’s why the GOP represented by Limbaugh and others faces marginalization.

By: realconservativ

realconservativ — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:58:29 +0000

New Majority is rapidly becoming the voice of the unknown RINOs. For the sake of the GOP, let’s hope they remain unknown.

By: Michael INdy

Michael INdy — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:54:18 +0000

Rhampton: the evils of multi-culturalism and the destruction of traditions have negatively affected African-Americans and Latinos far more so than said evils have affected the rest of society. Nevertheless, I’m sure hyperventilating about it doesn’t play well. So, in order to become a New Majority, should we ignore the truth? I think not. Speaking honestly and intelligently about the subject (or any subject, for that matter) is a good thing. Should it be the linchpin of the GOP’s strategy for winning greater support? No. Economics will always be more important. But, neither should such evils be ignored.

By: Rhampton

Rhampton — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:39:07 +0000

When Limbaugh or the GOP hyperventilates about the evils of multi-culturalism and the destruction of traditions, how does that play with African-American and Latinos? I don’t have the research, but my hunch is that they feel like they’re being talked about in not-so-subtle code. Furthermore, my hunch is that more than a sizable minority of the GOP really is talking in not-so-subtle code.

By: sw

sw — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:21:06 +0000

I agree. We need to talk about money matters, cutting gov’t, and defending this country. That’s what being Republican means … not applying a hysterical litmus test and screeching abouty marriage/abortion/music, movies & TV. Even the most intelligent Republican (think Wm. F. Buckley) sounds moronic when he or she descends to the “culture war” level. We are too smart for this.

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:25:31 +0000

E. Goldstein: One thing that the GOP has to do, is to assiduously woo minorities 365 days a year, not just when there’s an election coming up. As governor of Texas, Bush did that with Hispanics–and it paid off for him. The only time we see a Republican presidential candidate campaigning among blacks is during an election year, when he makes his one obligatory pilgrimage to address the NAACP annual conference. He tells them that he’s “very interested in the black vote,” which is a lie, and everybody there knows it’s a lie. Then he walks out again, and that’s that. If the GOP is truly serious about wooing Hispanics, then it should be starting right now, this week. Chekote and I are in agreement on reducing the number of illegals coming into the country, though we disagree on how to do it. But once an illegal is *already here*, we should treat him with compassion. Unlike radical Islamists, he’s not coming here to terrorize the nation; he’s coming here to find work. If he’s willing to learn English and become part of America, we should welcome him. He’s already demonstrated a willingness to work hard even at low pay; that puts him on a higher moral plane that some native-born Americans.