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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Islamism is a world WAR, and we have been drawn into that war.&lt;/b&gt;

I will take Islam seriously as a threat to the world when China does.

If we decide to wage war against 1/4 of the worlds population, while the Chinese build alliances, we will paint a rather bleak future for ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Islamism is a world WAR, and we have been drawn into that war.</b></p>
<p>I will take Islam seriously as a threat to the world when China does.</p>
<p>If we decide to wage war against 1/4 of the worlds population, while the Chinese build alliances, we will paint a rather bleak future for ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/self-induced-jihad-syndrome/comment-page-1#comment-72492</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>balconesfault: &lt;blockquote&gt; what I don’t understand is why people would make a big deal of Husan’s religion &lt;/blockquote&gt;
And I explained it to you elsewhere:  The worldwide body count being racked up by Islamists dwarfs any other terrorist cause extant at the moment.  Islamists are active in dozens of countries--and they have no compunctions against mass slaughter.  They are the MAIN threat we face.

There have been far more innocents killed by Islamists--worldwide--than by Christian abortion clinic attackers, or neo-Nazis.

Let&#039;s review some cases you may have forgotten:

The Chechen rebels were Islamists.  They committed such atrocities as the Beslan massacre, in which over a hundred young Russian schoolchildren were tortured and shot.

Islamic terrorism in the Philippines, groups like Abu Sayyaf, have killed hundreds of Filipinos and foreign visitors.  This includes twenty who were beheaded.

The Libyan Islamic Legionnaires invaded Chad.

The Janjaweed of Darfur are Arab Islamists.  You liberals made a &lt;i&gt;cause celebre&lt;/i&gt; out of Darfur.  But you always carefully avoid mentioning the &lt;i&gt;ideology&lt;/i&gt; underpinning the slaughter:  It&#039;s Arab Muslims massacring innocent black Africans.

Central Africa has become a battleground in which Islamism, sweeping down from the north, is converting or killing central Africans they encounter.  (BTW, they&#039;re not deterred by America.  In fact, Islamists find most central Africans already contemptuous of America, which they regard as decadent and immoral.)

9-11, the wanton slaughter of nearly 3,000 Americans, was perpetrated by Islamists.

In war, you always focus on the main threat.

There&#039;s no &quot;balance&quot; needed here.  The bloodthirstiness of the Islamists dwarfs just about everybody else.

I&#039;m sick and tired of you liberals making excuses for Islamism, or trying to &quot;contextualize&quot; it by just listing it as one more bunch of terrorists alongside some individual nut who attacked an abortion doctor.  You&#039;re doing it in order to avoid facing up to Islamist terror, something you would prefer not to deal with.  Sorry, ain&#039;t gonna work.

Islamism is a world WAR, and we have been drawn into that war.

To quote Trotsky:  &quot;You may not be interested in war--but war is interested in you.&quot;

And that war is very interested in Obama as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>balconesfault:<br />
<blockquote> what I don’t understand is why people would make a big deal of Husan’s religion </p></blockquote>
<p>And I explained it to you elsewhere:  The worldwide body count being racked up by Islamists dwarfs any other terrorist cause extant at the moment.  Islamists are active in dozens of countries&#8211;and they have no compunctions against mass slaughter.  They are the MAIN threat we face.</p>
<p>There have been far more innocents killed by Islamists&#8211;worldwide&#8211;than by Christian abortion clinic attackers, or neo-Nazis.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s review some cases you may have forgotten:</p>
<p>The Chechen rebels were Islamists.  They committed such atrocities as the Beslan massacre, in which over a hundred young Russian schoolchildren were tortured and shot.</p>
<p>Islamic terrorism in the Philippines, groups like Abu Sayyaf, have killed hundreds of Filipinos and foreign visitors.  This includes twenty who were beheaded.</p>
<p>The Libyan Islamic Legionnaires invaded Chad.</p>
<p>The Janjaweed of Darfur are Arab Islamists.  You liberals made a <i>cause celebre</i> out of Darfur.  But you always carefully avoid mentioning the <i>ideology</i> underpinning the slaughter:  It&#8217;s Arab Muslims massacring innocent black Africans.</p>
<p>Central Africa has become a battleground in which Islamism, sweeping down from the north, is converting or killing central Africans they encounter.  (BTW, they&#8217;re not deterred by America.  In fact, Islamists find most central Africans already contemptuous of America, which they regard as decadent and immoral.)</p>
<p>9-11, the wanton slaughter of nearly 3,000 Americans, was perpetrated by Islamists.</p>
<p>In war, you always focus on the main threat.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no &#8220;balance&#8221; needed here.  The bloodthirstiness of the Islamists dwarfs just about everybody else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick and tired of you liberals making excuses for Islamism, or trying to &#8220;contextualize&#8221; it by just listing it as one more bunch of terrorists alongside some individual nut who attacked an abortion doctor.  You&#8217;re doing it in order to avoid facing up to Islamist terror, something you would prefer not to deal with.  Sorry, ain&#8217;t gonna work.</p>
<p>Islamism is a world WAR, and we have been drawn into that war.</p>
<p>To quote Trotsky:  &#8220;You may not be interested in war&#8211;but war is interested in you.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that war is very interested in Obama as well.</p>
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		<title>By: advocatusdiaboli</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of your essay but difference on two points. 

First and foremost, I don&#039;t trust the state and the average juror enough in their fact-finding and decision-making to allow them to have the right to take a life. With the introduction of DNA evidence, we are finding out that a shocking number of innocent people have been executed--and some states, such as Texas, have government officials covering it up and in denial. Life imprisonment at hard labor and in solitary at a Devil&#039;s Island? Yes. Not medical care? Yes. No contact with the outside world, no TV, no radio, no music, no visitors, no air conditioning, no heat? Yes. But no state-sponsored killing.

Second, I do think you could have searched a bit and found a better term than Jihad. It implies a religious extremism that I don&#039;t think is necessarily present in all these cases of paranoiac psychotic behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of your essay but difference on two points. </p>
<p>First and foremost, I don&#8217;t trust the state and the average juror enough in their fact-finding and decision-making to allow them to have the right to take a life. With the introduction of DNA evidence, we are finding out that a shocking number of innocent people have been executed&#8211;and some states, such as Texas, have government officials covering it up and in denial. Life imprisonment at hard labor and in solitary at a Devil&#8217;s Island? Yes. Not medical care? Yes. No contact with the outside world, no TV, no radio, no music, no visitors, no air conditioning, no heat? Yes. But no state-sponsored killing.</p>
<p>Second, I do think you could have searched a bit and found a better term than Jihad. It implies a religious extremism that I don&#8217;t think is necessarily present in all these cases of paranoiac psychotic behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I wrote elsewhere:

&lt;b&gt;Now, what I don’t understand is why people would make a big deal of Husan’s religion, and not be concerned about the mysogeny that’s still formented in our culture that can breed a Sodini, the anti-government lunacy that can motivate a Poplawski, the white victim rhetoric that empowers a Von Brunn, or the Christian fanaticism that turns a Roeder into a killer and celebrates the murder he carries out.&lt;/b&gt;

This article does a good job of contextualizing that issue.  Yes, we have to be looking out for jihadists - but that&#039;s just one facet of a greater danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I wrote elsewhere:</p>
<p><b>Now, what I don’t understand is why people would make a big deal of Husan’s religion, and not be concerned about the mysogeny that’s still formented in our culture that can breed a Sodini, the anti-government lunacy that can motivate a Poplawski, the white victim rhetoric that empowers a Von Brunn, or the Christian fanaticism that turns a Roeder into a killer and celebrates the murder he carries out.</b></p>
<p>This article does a good job of contextualizing that issue.  Yes, we have to be looking out for jihadists &#8211; but that&#8217;s just one facet of a greater danger.</p>
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		<title>By: teabag</title>
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		<dc:creator>teabag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For you this is a well thought out piece, and one that is not making political capital out of tragedy which again is unusual for you.

Congratulations on a good piece of work. I would however reserve judgment on the Fort Hood shootings until ALL the facts are in. I am pretty sure yo are right but it&#039;s better to wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For you this is a well thought out piece, and one that is not making political capital out of tragedy which again is unusual for you.</p>
<p>Congratulations on a good piece of work. I would however reserve judgment on the Fort Hood shootings until ALL the facts are in. I am pretty sure yo are right but it&#8217;s better to wait and see.</p>
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