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		<title>By: Reid&#8217;s Bill Could Be the End of Private Insurance &#171; GW YAF</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-79767</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid&#8217;s Bill Could Be the End of Private Insurance &#171; GW YAF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reid&#8217;s Bill Could Be the End of Private&#160;Insurance  The Following was originally published and is the sole property of FrumForum.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Reid&#8217;s Bill Could be the End of Private Insurance &#124; thelobbyist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reid&#8217;s Bill Could be the End of Private Insurance &#124; thelobbyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mthen</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78399</link>
		<dc:creator>mthen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn. Its as I said. In this case as of the above post  literaly 9 out of 10 posts are lefties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn. Its as I said. In this case as of the above post  literaly 9 out of 10 posts are lefties.</p>
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		<title>By: PracticalGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78393</link>
		<dc:creator>PracticalGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mthen:

Deal with the issues, then, if you don&#039;t like the responses.  

Do you object to the fact that the government may be regulating the minimum amount of services-for-purchase a consumer can expect?  Do you realistically think this will affect more than a small percentage of insurance companies?  Do you think anybody would be having this conversation if the the companies had a primary fiduciary responsibility to their customers instead of to its shareholders and officers?

How have Conservatives helped stem the health care costs-both insurance and provider- in the last 10 years?  Which conservative ideals have prevented any serious action on spiraling health care costs?  Which Conservative provisions were advanced (and supported) by the GOP?

A few posters on this site seem to want to simply emulate talk show politics, which are emotion based, and devoid of practical solutions that are grounded in reality.  Put something forth, and debate it on its merits.  Slinging around the &quot;lib&quot; label at David, his contributors and the posters, is a great release for you but makes no salient point.  Do you have any?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mthen:</p>
<p>Deal with the issues, then, if you don&#8217;t like the responses.  </p>
<p>Do you object to the fact that the government may be regulating the minimum amount of services-for-purchase a consumer can expect?  Do you realistically think this will affect more than a small percentage of insurance companies?  Do you think anybody would be having this conversation if the the companies had a primary fiduciary responsibility to their customers instead of to its shareholders and officers?</p>
<p>How have Conservatives helped stem the health care costs-both insurance and provider- in the last 10 years?  Which conservative ideals have prevented any serious action on spiraling health care costs?  Which Conservative provisions were advanced (and supported) by the GOP?</p>
<p>A few posters on this site seem to want to simply emulate talk show politics, which are emotion based, and devoid of practical solutions that are grounded in reality.  Put something forth, and debate it on its merits.  Slinging around the &#8220;lib&#8221; label at David, his contributors and the posters, is a great release for you but makes no salient point.  Do you have any?</p>
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		<title>By: mthen</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78389</link>
		<dc:creator>mthen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>advocatusdiaboli While you know nothing about my political views your post goes to further my point. Nine out of ten posters on this site are from the far left of the democratic party. They come here because Frum will often validate their views with the added bonus of getting to berate him when he differs from their views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>advocatusdiaboli While you know nothing about my political views your post goes to further my point. Nine out of ten posters on this site are from the far left of the democratic party. They come here because Frum will often validate their views with the added bonus of getting to berate him when he differs from their views.</p>
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		<title>By: PracticalGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78386</link>
		<dc:creator>PracticalGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Senate bill would force private plans to spend a minimum amount on paying medical claims..&quot;

So?  Conservatism needs to stand for something other than feeding outrage over a businesses being asked to deliver its service-as promised- to its customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Senate bill would force private plans to spend a minimum amount on paying medical claims..&#8221;</p>
<p>So?  Conservatism needs to stand for something other than feeding outrage over a businesses being asked to deliver its service-as promised- to its customers.</p>
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		<title>By: advocatusdiaboli</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78339</link>
		<dc:creator>advocatusdiaboli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As well-meaning as Mr Frum is in trying to build a good solid intellectual conservative site, he has been stymied by the paucity of solid intellectual analysis and argument coming from the right these days and so has to reach in the &quot;looney bin&quot; for material too often. It is indeed hurting his site. An good example is the comment above mine: if an editorialist or commenter is not vitriolic enough in denying any possible  merit in anything those labeled &quot;left&quot; or &quot;democrat&quot; do, then the extreme rabble zealots who control the voice of the party deem them merely entertaining the left and they are judged to have no validity nor purpose. David, you cannot appease these zealots, you must take them on or you will become the American conservative equivalent of Robspierre--you will do their dirty work and in turn be a victim of it in the end. Mr Frum, light a candle--don&#039;t walk in their darkness..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As well-meaning as Mr Frum is in trying to build a good solid intellectual conservative site, he has been stymied by the paucity of solid intellectual analysis and argument coming from the right these days and so has to reach in the &#8220;looney bin&#8221; for material too often. It is indeed hurting his site. An good example is the comment above mine: if an editorialist or commenter is not vitriolic enough in denying any possible  merit in anything those labeled &#8220;left&#8221; or &#8220;democrat&#8221; do, then the extreme rabble zealots who control the voice of the party deem them merely entertaining the left and they are judged to have no validity nor purpose. David, you cannot appease these zealots, you must take them on or you will become the American conservative equivalent of Robspierre&#8211;you will do their dirty work and in turn be a victim of it in the end. Mr Frum, light a candle&#8211;don&#8217;t walk in their darkness..</p>
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		<title>By: mthen</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78330</link>
		<dc:creator>mthen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what youre left with Frum. Your site has failed utterly and completely to do anything else than entertain left-wingers. Close up shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what youre left with Frum. Your site has failed utterly and completely to do anything else than entertain left-wingers. Close up shop.</p>
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		<title>By: vernachase27</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78314</link>
		<dc:creator>vernachase27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice article about medical insurance industry. But you could get medical insurance for your entire family at the best price from http://bit.ly/7bwEx2 if you spent few mins you can find a good plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice article about medical insurance industry. But you could get medical insurance for your entire family at the best price from <a href="http://bit.ly/7bwEx2" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7bwEx2</a> if you spent few mins you can find a good plan.</p>
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		<title>By: COProgressive</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/reids-bill-could-be-the-end-of-private-insurance/comment-page-1#comment-78311</link>
		<dc:creator>COProgressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The S&amp;I insurance industry skims 30% of each healthcare dollar for the simple (not so simple, ask any patient or doctor) function of paying for healthcare services.  30% for a money changer is an outrage for a middleman in a transaction and they provide NO HEALTHCARE.

We need to put a stake in the heart of the predatory, obsolete, expensive, yearly S&amp;I Insurance industry.  Let it go the way of the Buggy Whip and Slide Rule industries!

We need to stop thinking of healthcare as insurance and start thinking of healthcare as a Trust Fund we leave to our posterity.

&quot;I still don&#039;t get how my health care should be controlled by a system that was invented to compensate shippers for losses incurred due to storms and pirates.&quot; - RUCerious  - Think Progress dot Org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The S&amp;I insurance industry skims 30% of each healthcare dollar for the simple (not so simple, ask any patient or doctor) function of paying for healthcare services.  30% for a money changer is an outrage for a middleman in a transaction and they provide NO HEALTHCARE.</p>
<p>We need to put a stake in the heart of the predatory, obsolete, expensive, yearly S&amp;I Insurance industry.  Let it go the way of the Buggy Whip and Slide Rule industries!</p>
<p>We need to stop thinking of healthcare as insurance and start thinking of healthcare as a Trust Fund we leave to our posterity.</p>
<p>&#8220;I still don&#8217;t get how my health care should be controlled by a system that was invented to compensate shippers for losses incurred due to storms and pirates.&#8221; &#8211; RUCerious  &#8211; Think Progress dot Org</p>
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