“I’m a left of center Democrat, previously an Independent.”

(*SNORT*)

Hmm… would that happen to translate to “I’m a left of center Democrat, previously a left of center Independent?

Anne…. sweetee… were you deliberately mixing apples and oranges or do you not understand that one is a “team” identifier while the other is an ideological identifer?

Or… do you simply shed ideologies the way others shed stained garments?

“I am liberal…”

(*CHUCKLE*) Yes. Usually when one thinks “left of center Democrat” one thinks… er… “liberal.”

“I am not sippin any Kool-Aid (no thanks to your adolescent ad hominem attacks, snortin Bill) to think I will ‘win’ any argument on THIS site! ”

(*LAUGHING OUT LOUD*) Oh, yeah… you’re on a roll already! (*ROLLING MY EYES IN AMUSEMENT*)

“Do I think that some Iraqis are grateful for the removal of that petty tyrant, Saddam? Sure. But when you weigh the unfathomable costs to this war? No.”

OK. (*TOLERANT SMILE*) You’re doing it again – mixing two distinct issues. Either “some” Iraqis (actually it’s a hell of a lot more than some – no doubt it’s most) are grateful for the removal of Saddam OR they’re not. (*SHRUG*) Whether the “unfathomable” (actually the stats ARE available, along with analysis of the intangibles) costs of the war were worth it for the United States… that’s another question. (My view? No. They weren’t.)

“…instead of now having to increase troop levels in Afghanistan.”

So skipping right down to your bottom line, you support Obama’s Afghanistan policies… correct?

(*SHRUG*)

Me? I view Afghanistan as a quagmire. (*SNORT*) (Yeah… the irony, huh?)

As to your parting shot at Palin…

(*YAWN*)

BILL

Bill, I found subtle comedic value in my original post… delightfully tacky, yet unrefined. I, myself, will have Shiner Bock on tap…

Do I think that some Iraqis are grateful for the removal of that petty tyrant, Saddam? Sure. But when you weigh the unfathomable costs to this war? No. He was no imminent threat, regardless how Cheney tried to sell that one itty bitty lie. You really don’t think ALL of us were duped by the ‘he’s-about-to-nuke-us’ fear mongering, do you? The costs of this war will be felt for years to come. They reported on a soldier tonight who killed himself due to lack of attention to his ‘brain disintegrating’ from the bombs. Head wound injuries and psychological problems will be a nightmare for these returning soldiers and their families.

The cost of Iraq is too high, too high. No geopolitical move on our part will even out the terrible costs of this war.

If Bush had put the resources in Afghanistan from the get-go, we might have made a dent there- baggged Bin Laden, and lessened the curse of the Taliban, instead of now having to increase troop levels in Afghanistan. He diverted those Afghanistan funds to Iraq, remember?

Back to Palin. Just heard Colin Powell call her ‘fascinating’…. yeah, fascinating. No one on this site with any honesty is going to say she is in the same league as Reagan, senior Bush, Einsenhower. She’s a quitter! Fearless, they say. The only thing she is fearless about is knocking down anyone standing in her way to deposit her megabucks at the bank.

Hmm… good choice – politically as well as taste wise.

Yeungling is my favorite “pisswater” domestic beer.

Still… I lay my bet on Goose Island.

(I’ll also place a side bet – a place bet – on “Two Brothers” as the dark horse.)

BILL

Thanks for posting that!

(“The David Sisters…”) (*GRIN*) Gotta luv it!

BILL

Yeungling Black & Tan…

http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/07/27/david-frum-jokes-about-sarah-palin-proves-he-still-doesnt-get-it/

I wonder what beer the Obama White House serves?

BILL

sarah palin: role model for conservative women – July 27, 2009
she’s been simply fearless. sarah palin has stood up to the party bullies, the hypocritical and intensely jealous elites, and the blinded, salivating media. she does not apologize for being an american and is a champion of the military in service to this country. without being overly dramatic, she could almost be from american revolutionary or even pioneer times.

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Palin QUIT her job and yet she is regarded as fearless. Unbelievable! We have a HUGE problem in the GOP.