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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/on-oprahs-couch/comment-page-3#comment-72849</link>
		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sarah Palin isn&#039;t retreating.  She&#039;s reloading.&quot;  - Sarah&#039;s Dad.

And from all the subsequent interviews this week, we now know how lame Oprah&#039;s effort really was... I hope Sarah reloads and sights in Oprah, the View and Rachel MadCow.  That&#039;s some neat target practice I think would be worth a lot to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sarah Palin isn&#8217;t retreating.  She&#8217;s reloading.&#8221;  &#8211; Sarah&#8217;s Dad.</p>
<p>And from all the subsequent interviews this week, we now know how lame Oprah&#8217;s effort really was&#8230; I hope Sarah reloads and sights in Oprah, the View and Rachel MadCow.  That&#8217;s some neat target practice I think would be worth a lot to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: AmericanMuser</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/on-oprahs-couch/comment-page-3#comment-72843</link>
		<dc:creator>AmericanMuser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America’s elite and Palin-haters worldwide should not be so quick to dismiss or disregard the future of Sarah Palin.  No other national political figure so completely fills Middle America’s vacuum of frustration and hate for the Left and Right as Sarah Palin.

Middle America has been abandoned by the Left and Right, who have saddled it with a $700 billion taxpayer bailout, an unnecessary and costly war, a soaring deficit, and an overall neglect of the pocketbook issues that impact Middle America every day.  Where are job creation, quality public education, affordable healthcare, and fiscal responsibility, to name a few?

Middle America is mad as hell at the Left and Right and they just might be willing to roll the dice on someone like Palin, who lacks an Ivy League education, is a working class hockey-mom with a disabled child, and who has blue-collar roots like many of the folks in Middle America.  The status quo on the Left and Right have produced nothing material for Middle America, which may toss conventional wisdom into the toilet and throw the lever for Palin, figuring it has nothing to lose, and it may be right.

The Ivy League educated on the Left and Right have delivered little to nothing for Middle America, perhaps precisely because they are out of touch with the issues that someone like Palin understands personally.

However, to say that Palin is a salmon swimming upstream is an understatement.  The results of a CBS News survey released Monday indicate that 66 percent of respondents do not want her to run for the White House in 2012.  Seventy percent of respondents to a CNN/Opinion Research poll said she is not qualified to be president.

More difficult for Palin is the fact that the trend is not her friend—public opinion is moving in the wrong direction right now.

In the CBS survey, 43 percent of GOP respondents said Palin would have the ability to be an effective president.  Only 11 percent of Democrats and 29 percent of independents agreed.

However, there is an opportunity for Palin among independents, where Palin’s rating is 41 percent favorable, and 48 percent unfavorable, according to Gallup.

These numbers are not great, but there is plenty of time if she can move the needle by appealing to Middle America and independents, which is where elections are won or lost.

Clearly, Palin has put the monkey on her back, especially with her resignation from Alaska’s governorship in July, a self-inflicted wound that will be difficult to explain away.  However, don’t put it past Palin to put lipstick on this pig and paint herself as a victim of politically motivated and baseless ethics charges that prevented her from successfully serving the people of Alaska, forcing her to do the noble thing and take the bullet by resigning.

We can say what we want about Palin, but no Republican in recent history has created such frenzied excitement across the country as she has.  Just take a look at the fervor she stirs as she wheels across Middle America on her book tour.

Perhaps this is a misreading of the tea leaves, but one could argue that she creates a wee bit more excitement than Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee, the two Republican front-runners for president in 2012.  In the land of the blind, the one-eyed woman just may be queen.

A. Muser
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America’s elite and Palin-haters worldwide should not be so quick to dismiss or disregard the future of Sarah Palin.  No other national political figure so completely fills Middle America’s vacuum of frustration and hate for the Left and Right as Sarah Palin.</p>
<p>Middle America has been abandoned by the Left and Right, who have saddled it with a $700 billion taxpayer bailout, an unnecessary and costly war, a soaring deficit, and an overall neglect of the pocketbook issues that impact Middle America every day.  Where are job creation, quality public education, affordable healthcare, and fiscal responsibility, to name a few?</p>
<p>Middle America is mad as hell at the Left and Right and they just might be willing to roll the dice on someone like Palin, who lacks an Ivy League education, is a working class hockey-mom with a disabled child, and who has blue-collar roots like many of the folks in Middle America.  The status quo on the Left and Right have produced nothing material for Middle America, which may toss conventional wisdom into the toilet and throw the lever for Palin, figuring it has nothing to lose, and it may be right.</p>
<p>The Ivy League educated on the Left and Right have delivered little to nothing for Middle America, perhaps precisely because they are out of touch with the issues that someone like Palin understands personally.</p>
<p>However, to say that Palin is a salmon swimming upstream is an understatement.  The results of a CBS News survey released Monday indicate that 66 percent of respondents do not want her to run for the White House in 2012.  Seventy percent of respondents to a CNN/Opinion Research poll said she is not qualified to be president.</p>
<p>More difficult for Palin is the fact that the trend is not her friend—public opinion is moving in the wrong direction right now.</p>
<p>In the CBS survey, 43 percent of GOP respondents said Palin would have the ability to be an effective president.  Only 11 percent of Democrats and 29 percent of independents agreed.</p>
<p>However, there is an opportunity for Palin among independents, where Palin’s rating is 41 percent favorable, and 48 percent unfavorable, according to Gallup.</p>
<p>These numbers are not great, but there is plenty of time if she can move the needle by appealing to Middle America and independents, which is where elections are won or lost.</p>
<p>Clearly, Palin has put the monkey on her back, especially with her resignation from Alaska’s governorship in July, a self-inflicted wound that will be difficult to explain away.  However, don’t put it past Palin to put lipstick on this pig and paint herself as a victim of politically motivated and baseless ethics charges that prevented her from successfully serving the people of Alaska, forcing her to do the noble thing and take the bullet by resigning.</p>
<p>We can say what we want about Palin, but no Republican in recent history has created such frenzied excitement across the country as she has.  Just take a look at the fervor she stirs as she wheels across Middle America on her book tour.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is a misreading of the tea leaves, but one could argue that she creates a wee bit more excitement than Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee, the two Republican front-runners for president in 2012.  In the land of the blind, the one-eyed woman just may be queen.</p>
<p>A. Muser<br />
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		<title>By: LFC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;MI-GOPer said... More BS. She resigned her job because she was hounded by massive legal and consulting fee bills that were crippling her family and her future. &lt;/i&gt;

You mean like the ethics complaint she filed against herself for political reasons, i.e. to block Troopergate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>MI-GOPer said&#8230; More BS. She resigned her job because she was hounded by massive legal and consulting fee bills that were crippling her family and her future. </i></p>
<p>You mean like the ethics complaint she filed against herself for political reasons, i.e. to block Troopergate?</p>
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		<title>By: Independent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see, mi-gop? when you tell the truth, the far left calls you a liar.  when you prove the truth with citations, the far left trolls here like centristnyer try to isolate you with their fake compassion and try to trash the republicans one more time.

i&#039;m still wondering though why all these clearly left wing democrat activists find it necessary to come over to a blog that&#039;s about rebuilding the gop and conservative movement... isn&#039;t that the first proof that they are trolls?

by the way, centristnyer?  you haven&#039;t been here very long... the archives show you began posting on nov 4th... were you someone else before you created the faux-named &quot;centristnyer&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see, mi-gop? when you tell the truth, the far left calls you a liar.  when you prove the truth with citations, the far left trolls here like centristnyer try to isolate you with their fake compassion and try to trash the republicans one more time.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m still wondering though why all these clearly left wing democrat activists find it necessary to come over to a blog that&#8217;s about rebuilding the gop and conservative movement&#8230; isn&#8217;t that the first proof that they are trolls?</p>
<p>by the way, centristnyer?  you haven&#8217;t been here very long&#8230; the archives show you began posting on nov 4th&#8230; were you someone else before you created the faux-named &#8220;centristnyer&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: CentristNYer</title>
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		<dc:creator>CentristNYer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re really a very sad sack, MI-GOPer. You&#039;re all piss, vinegar and truthiness. 

But then I guess it makes sense that you&#039;d be comfortable in the modern day Palin/Beck/teabag/birther GOP.

Best of luck to you with that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re really a very sad sack, MI-GOPer. You&#8217;re all piss, vinegar and truthiness. </p>
<p>But then I guess it makes sense that you&#8217;d be comfortable in the modern day Palin/Beck/teabag/birther GOP.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you with that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
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		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And can we fianlly lay to rest all the denials of the far Left trolls here who claim &quot;Oh, I don&#039;t post on HuffPo or MoveOn or ACORN-Unites or Democrat Underground...

Here&#039;s BlankHead&#039;s profile from HuffPo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/Balconesfault?action=profile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And can we fianlly lay to rest all the denials of the far Left trolls here who claim &#8220;Oh, I don&#8217;t post on HuffPo or MoveOn or ACORN-Unites or Democrat Underground&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s BlankHead&#8217;s profile from HuffPo.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/Balconesfault?action=profile" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/Balconesfault?action=profile</a></p>
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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/on-oprahs-couch/comment-page-3#comment-72689</link>
		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, what was that you were saying about how I spread lies?

Oh, right.  This isn&#039;t a fair example of you spreading a bald-faced lie, is it?  Let&#039;s not hold Centrist accountable for lying... that&#039;s not fair.

The problem is, Centrist, you can&#039;t rebutt people deconstructing your lies.  And what&#039;s with that name?  Centrist?  You&#039;re like TeaBag... pick a name that is the inverse and use it to greater effect?  Did Saul Alinsky teach that one in Bill Ayers&#039; class?  Did he preach it as Rev Wright&#039;s House of Worship?

Centrist, I&#039;ve known centrists... you are no centrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, what was that you were saying about how I spread lies?</p>
<p>Oh, right.  This isn&#8217;t a fair example of you spreading a bald-faced lie, is it?  Let&#8217;s not hold Centrist accountable for lying&#8230; that&#8217;s not fair.</p>
<p>The problem is, Centrist, you can&#8217;t rebutt people deconstructing your lies.  And what&#8217;s with that name?  Centrist?  You&#8217;re like TeaBag&#8230; pick a name that is the inverse and use it to greater effect?  Did Saul Alinsky teach that one in Bill Ayers&#8217; class?  Did he preach it as Rev Wright&#8217;s House of Worship?</p>
<p>Centrist, I&#8217;ve known centrists&#8230; you are no centrist.</p>
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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
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		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CentristNYer tries a page from AutomaticBS&#039;s playbook and puts the words he wants into other peoples&#039; mouths with: &quot;MI-GOPer: If anyone who thinks that Palin is unqualified to be president is a “far left winger,” then that means that nearly three quarters of all Americans would bear the label.&quot;

Sorry, troll.  I never said that.  You can try to sell that pile, but it still will stink at the end of the sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CentristNYer tries a page from AutomaticBS&#8217;s playbook and puts the words he wants into other peoples&#8217; mouths with: &#8220;MI-GOPer: If anyone who thinks that Palin is unqualified to be president is a “far left winger,” then that means that nearly three quarters of all Americans would bear the label.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, troll.  I never said that.  You can try to sell that pile, but it still will stink at the end of the sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you stay too, Annie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you stay too, Annie.</p>
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		<title>By: mymy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mymy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SINZ you 1st said the CEO disliked her because she didn&#039;t have an abortion.Next you say they hate Gov.Palin because she quit her job.I guess if you are looking for a reason to dislike someone there is always one to be found.I wasn&#039;t impressed with her resignation,but I assume it is better than going bankrupt over legal bills</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SINZ you 1st said the CEO disliked her because she didn&#8217;t have an abortion.Next you say they hate Gov.Palin because she quit her job.I guess if you are looking for a reason to dislike someone there is always one to be found.I wasn&#8217;t impressed with her resignation,but I assume it is better than going bankrupt over legal bills</p>
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