The fact remains, no poster on this site has been able to deal with the simple fact that there is a robust public option in CA that (1) does not rely on tax money, (2) has not run private insurers out of the market, (3) has lowered premiums, and (4) has made insurance available to every single business in the state.

I was wrong about one thing: “It is a pure fallacy to argue that a govt run public option will bring competition to the marketplace. And only a pathological liar like Obama or Pelosi can get away with spinning that lie and still sleep at night.”

I should have added your name to the list of Obama and Pelosi. Spinners all. You really need to either man-up or get a better act.

But, Mi-GOPer earlier wrote: “It is a pure fallacy to argue that a govt run public option will bring competition to the marketplace.”

Is Mi-GOPer stupid or what?

Nope, I didn’t but like a good barricade watcher for the Obama Kamp as the revolution edges nearer you used your vast power of ignorance to miss my opening point… which was “I don’t know, sparty; but in Michigan, 22 yrs ago”… note the I don’t know –which neither dismisses nor agrees with your point about the public option in CA… merely steps aside of it and offers a far more compelling, complete review of a worker comp public option experience in Michigan?

Nawh, I didn’t think you could note that. It would, as others here rightly point out, destroy your inferior example and blunt your partisan powers of persuasion. Sparty-is-brain-dead writes: “… your arguments seem very weak”. Not at all, sparty. It’s only been 11 months but it seems all that time on the Obama barricades has left you punch-drunk and a bit tone deaf.

Don’t worry, in 2010 and 2012, I think there’ll be some Change and Hope chasing your team from the barricades and ramparts around the Obama. That’s if the Chicago Thugs don’t play more voter fraud games ala Karzai.

I’m not calling his points about the Michigan plan ignorant. I’m saying his ignorance about the public option in CA did not stop him from forming the opinion that it has ruined competition in the state. Neither he, nor Sinz nor any other poster on this site has been able to deal with the simple fact that there is a robust public option in CA that (1) does not rely on tax money, (2) has not run private insurers out of the market, (3) has lowered premiums, and (4) has made insurance available to every single business in the state.

Until you can reconcile this with the theoretical fears of a national public option, your arguments seem very weak.

Spoken like a true barricade watcher stuck on the Democrats’ rampart of hate while the revolution edges closer to your post, eh? I guess that’s why the Obama’s polling continues to drop like a lead weight. I guess that’s why more Americans oppose the Democrats’ health care “reform” plan than even their cap & trade tax hikes. I guess that’s why the Democrat-controlled House had trouble mustering enough votes to pass it out of a chamber they control? It’s so popular and GOP support so incredible, nearly 2/3rds of the blue dawg Dems didn’t support their Party?

What was that nonsense you were sputtering on about?

Besides, from what I’ve read of your rantings, you’ve got a near monopoly on ignorance around here.

Glad to see ignorance is no barrier to forming an opinion.