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		<title>By: John Guardiano</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-the-dems-still-in-retreat/comment-page-1#comment-81290</link>
		<dc:creator>John Guardiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the Heritage URL for their PAYGO analysis. (URL above isn&#039;t working.)
http://bit.ly/ba1JdC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the Heritage URL for their PAYGO analysis. (URL above isn&#8217;t working.)<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/ba1JdC" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ba1JdC</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Guardiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Guardiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny_K
I&#039;m no spokesman for the GOP. Believe me, I often ask myself why Republican lawmakers do this, that or other foolish thing! : ) I only speak for myself and anyone who sees fit to endorse my ideas. But if the GOP opposed PAYGO, then good for the GOP! They finally got one right!

PAYGO is a budgetary gimmick that promotes tax hikes by treating tax cut extensions and renewed entitlement spending differently and unequally. The Heritage Foundation well analyzes PAYGO and explains why it would incentivize tax hikes: http://bit.ly/98tEYL

I&#039;m interested in promoting economic dynamism and economic growth; the budget deficit really doesn&#039;t concern me much --  except insofar as it is a proxy for excessive government spending, which does stymie economic growth.

Thus onerous tax hikes -- which PAYGO encourages -- are my big beta noire. Tax hikes are problematic for practical economic reasons; but philosophically I don&#039;t believe in punishing the industrious and the successful. A rising tide lifts all boats, President Kennedy explained.

I agree. We all benefit when affluent investors save and invest and start up new businesses and new ventures. Why would you want to punish investors by confiscating even more of their money? That won&#039;t benefit anyone; it will only make us all poorer. As it is, the affluent already pay a wildly disproportionate share taxes.

So good for the GOP for rejecting this budget gimmick, PAYGO, which is really a ruse for economically crushing tax hikes. With our economy mired in a deep recession and long-term double-digit unemployment, the last thing we need right now are more tax hikes.

Regards,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny_K<br />
I&#8217;m no spokesman for the GOP. Believe me, I often ask myself why Republican lawmakers do this, that or other foolish thing! : ) I only speak for myself and anyone who sees fit to endorse my ideas. But if the GOP opposed PAYGO, then good for the GOP! They finally got one right!</p>
<p>PAYGO is a budgetary gimmick that promotes tax hikes by treating tax cut extensions and renewed entitlement spending differently and unequally. The Heritage Foundation well analyzes PAYGO and explains why it would incentivize tax hikes: <a href="http://bit.ly/98tEYL" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/98tEYL</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in promoting economic dynamism and economic growth; the budget deficit really doesn&#8217;t concern me much &#8212;  except insofar as it is a proxy for excessive government spending, which does stymie economic growth.</p>
<p>Thus onerous tax hikes &#8212; which PAYGO encourages &#8212; are my big beta noire. Tax hikes are problematic for practical economic reasons; but philosophically I don&#8217;t believe in punishing the industrious and the successful. A rising tide lifts all boats, President Kennedy explained.</p>
<p>I agree. We all benefit when affluent investors save and invest and start up new businesses and new ventures. Why would you want to punish investors by confiscating even more of their money? That won&#8217;t benefit anyone; it will only make us all poorer. As it is, the affluent already pay a wildly disproportionate share taxes.</p>
<p>So good for the GOP for rejecting this budget gimmick, PAYGO, which is really a ruse for economically crushing tax hikes. With our economy mired in a deep recession and long-term double-digit unemployment, the last thing we need right now are more tax hikes.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Danny_K</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-the-dems-still-in-retreat/comment-page-1#comment-81240</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you read this John, so riddle me this: how come Paygo rules just passed in the Senate with zero GOP votes?  I thought the GOP cared about this deficit thing and the Dems didn&#039;t.  What am I missing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you read this John, so riddle me this: how come Paygo rules just passed in the Senate with zero GOP votes?  I thought the GOP cared about this deficit thing and the Dems didn&#8217;t.  What am I missing?</p>
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		<title>By: teabag</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-the-dems-still-in-retreat/comment-page-1#comment-81231</link>
		<dc:creator>teabag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or truthful either I might add.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or truthful either I might add.</p>
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		<title>By: teabag</title>
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		<dc:creator>teabag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You never are John, so no change there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never are John, so no change there.</p>
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		<title>By: John Guardiano</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-the-dems-still-in-retreat/comment-page-1#comment-81222</link>
		<dc:creator>John Guardiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey &quot;Teabag,&quot;
Excuse me for not always being lively, witty and entertaining!

Regards,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;Teabag,&#8221;<br />
Excuse me for not always being lively, witty and entertaining!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: teabag</title>
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		<dc:creator>teabag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn!</p>
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