Comments on: Obama Opts Out of Obamacare

By: krove

krove — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:53:58 +0000

I insist I get a tax refund for George and Dick’s excellent Iraq war adventure.Not sure what my refund of the trillion or so bucks flushed down the toilet will be but I sure wanted nothing to do with that disaster.

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:10:37 +0000

"I insist that I be excluded from any government-run or mandated healthcare program and exempt from any and all taxes, fees and mandates imposed to pay for it."

LOL - good luck with that.

Can I "opt out" of any of my taxes going to pay for construction projects in Iraq or Afghanistan?

By: lward99

lward99 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:19:06 +0000

You can Opt Out Too – http://patientoptout.com “I, the undersigned citizen of the United States, demand that the U.S. Congress keep the government out of my healthcare decisions. Furthermore, if government-mandated healthcare should be enacted in any form by Congress and signed into law by President Obama, I insist that I be excluded from any government-run or mandated healthcare program and exempt from any and all taxes, fees and mandates imposed to pay for it.”

By: krove

krove — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:02:41 +0000

Read my lips>>>>>>>>>> Healthcare is ALREADY rationed!!!

There ate 50 million plus without any healthcare whatever. That's total rationing. Then there are people paying half their salary in premiums. That's more rationing of other areas where the money could better go.

Then there are the people booted out of their health care because they become sick. That really is rationing.

I am guessing that Clay is a Pharma or Insurance company lobbyist. He has all the lobbyist answers to give and no solutions at all.

By: ottovbvs

ottovbvs — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:46:57 +0000

Clay with his gold plated govt healthcare plan gives us another lecture on the dire outcome should Obama pass a universal plan.

"Though it is not in the standard Republican playbook, the opponents of Obamacare should argue that his program is fundamentally unfair and at odds with Americas egalitarian commitments. "

......The present system of course is fundamentally fair and completely consistent with egalitarian ideals. That's why 60-80% of the country depending on whose poll you believe wants to change it.

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:25:06 +0000

I don't get it. What would keep private insurers from making, in essence, insurance "rider" policies available to the middle class?

Or, if a lot of middle class families don't feel their needs will be served by subjecting themselves to the bureaucracy and rationing of the public option, why wouldn't they continue to subject themselves to the bureaucracy and rationing currently offered by their private insurers?

Personally, I can't see why this wouldn't happen. I have faith in the innovative powers of the free market - so if a substantial number of middle class families want to take advantage of a cost competitive public option, but want to guarantee that government bureaucracy doesn't get in the way of them getting higher level or more immediate treatments than the public system will provide - why would a private company not write policies for this?

Yes, there is no doubt that a public option will change the way insurance looks 10 years from now. But that's the whole point, isn't it? As long as the government doesn't subsidize the public option far more heavily than it currently does private insurance coverage, or flat out out-law private coverage, I have faith that the actors in the marketplace will discover new ways to make money through innovative insurance products.