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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author is kidding, right?  Not only do the Republicans have no incentive to cooperate with such a strategy, now that they know that 41 = majority, but the &quot;center&quot; of which you speak is unaffordable for the USA---it&#039;s synonymous with ignoring the very real and ongoing systemic crises that have been building up for years in society and economy of the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author is kidding, right?  Not only do the Republicans have no incentive to cooperate with such a strategy, now that they know that 41 = majority, but the &#8220;center&#8221; of which you speak is unaffordable for the USA&#8212;it&#8217;s synonymous with ignoring the very real and ongoing systemic crises that have been building up for years in society and economy of the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivener5</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-must-learn-from-clinton/comment-page-1#comment-80663</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivener5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama had a pair

…then he would sign an Executive Order banning discrimination against gays in the military.  

This singular act, which he has the power to do RIGHT NOW—if he so chose to do, certainly would shake up things.  Some veterans groups might bristle at the executive order.  Conservative groups would howl.  

But this is a fact:  The ordinary soldier, marine, airman, or sailor would not blink an eye.  As long as a military brother or sister can carry their own weight…as long as that military brother and sister can FIGHT, the ordinary military person doesn’t  give a damn who sleeps with whom.  
Obama never served in the military.  Harry S. Truman did serve.  Harry Truman desegregated the military in 1948, nearly 20 years before the larger society followed suit.  Harry Truman (though no social saint) served in the military and he knew that Black soldiers were integral to America’s success.  Obama, having never served in the military, seems clueless how integral gay military personnel are to America’s success in fighting two wars simultaneously.  Perhaps, one of Obama’s “crack” Cabinet aides didn’t supply the necessary memo or focus group poll.
Harry S. Truman didn’t govern by focus group.  Harry S. Truman didn’t need photo ops and beer summits.  Harry S. Truman didn’t need a staff of spin doctors and pollsters in order to govern effectively.  Harry S. Truman originated the phrase “The buck stops here” and he certainly meant it.
Being a military veteran is not necessary for being a good President…but it helps:
“Truman was chosen to be an officer, and then battery commander in an artillery regiment in France. His unit was Battery D, 129th Field Artillery, 60th Brigade, 35th Infantry Division, known for its discipline problems.[23] During a sudden attack by the Germans in the Vosges Mountains, the battery started to disperse; Truman ordered them back into position using profanities that he had &quot;learned while working on the Santa Fe railroad.&quot;[23] Shocked by the outburst, his men reassembled and followed him to safety. Under Captain Truman&#039;s command in France, the battery did not lose a single man.[23] On November 11, 1918 his artillery unit fired some of the last shots of World War I into German positions. The war was a transformative experience that brought out Truman&#039;s leadership qualities; he later rose to the rank of Colonel in the Army Reserves,[24] and his war record made possible his later political career in Missouri.”[23]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman
Yes, it is very obvious  that Harry S. Truman had a pair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama had a pair</p>
<p>…then he would sign an Executive Order banning discrimination against gays in the military.  </p>
<p>This singular act, which he has the power to do RIGHT NOW—if he so chose to do, certainly would shake up things.  Some veterans groups might bristle at the executive order.  Conservative groups would howl.  </p>
<p>But this is a fact:  The ordinary soldier, marine, airman, or sailor would not blink an eye.  As long as a military brother or sister can carry their own weight…as long as that military brother and sister can FIGHT, the ordinary military person doesn’t  give a damn who sleeps with whom.<br />
Obama never served in the military.  Harry S. Truman did serve.  Harry Truman desegregated the military in 1948, nearly 20 years before the larger society followed suit.  Harry Truman (though no social saint) served in the military and he knew that Black soldiers were integral to America’s success.  Obama, having never served in the military, seems clueless how integral gay military personnel are to America’s success in fighting two wars simultaneously.  Perhaps, one of Obama’s “crack” Cabinet aides didn’t supply the necessary memo or focus group poll.<br />
Harry S. Truman didn’t govern by focus group.  Harry S. Truman didn’t need photo ops and beer summits.  Harry S. Truman didn’t need a staff of spin doctors and pollsters in order to govern effectively.  Harry S. Truman originated the phrase “The buck stops here” and he certainly meant it.<br />
Being a military veteran is not necessary for being a good President…but it helps:<br />
“Truman was chosen to be an officer, and then battery commander in an artillery regiment in France. His unit was Battery D, 129th Field Artillery, 60th Brigade, 35th Infantry Division, known for its discipline problems.[23] During a sudden attack by the Germans in the Vosges Mountains, the battery started to disperse; Truman ordered them back into position using profanities that he had &#8220;learned while working on the Santa Fe railroad.&#8221;[23] Shocked by the outburst, his men reassembled and followed him to safety. Under Captain Truman&#8217;s command in France, the battery did not lose a single man.[23] On November 11, 1918 his artillery unit fired some of the last shots of World War I into German positions. The war was a transformative experience that brought out Truman&#8217;s leadership qualities; he later rose to the rank of Colonel in the Army Reserves,[24] and his war record made possible his later political career in Missouri.”[23]”<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman</a><br />
Yes, it is very obvious  that Harry S. Truman had a pair.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then, when a disheartened base allows a Republican to be elected in 2012 or 2016, Obama can step back and watch any good that he accomplished quickly eroded within a matter of months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then, when a disheartened base allows a Republican to be elected in 2012 or 2016, Obama can step back and watch any good that he accomplished quickly eroded within a matter of months.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, for running an aggressive foreign policy that included bombing Baghdad, and for doing what no Republican President has done in decades, running a surplus, Clinton was rewarded with being impeached.

I&#039;m sure any outreach Obama makes will be met with similar good will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, for running an aggressive foreign policy that included bombing Baghdad, and for doing what no Republican President has done in decades, running a surplus, Clinton was rewarded with being impeached.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure any outreach Obama makes will be met with similar good will.</p>
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