Gen. David Petraeus, along with a number of other high ranking military officials, believe all the pictures related to allegations of detainee abuse should be released — a number that would total in the thousands — a senior defense official close to the U.S. military commander told FOX News.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/25/source-petraeus-wants-release-photos-showing-detainee-treatment/

I thought Pinochet was dead…?!?!

(*SMIRK*)

BILL

The difference, of course, is that America’s participation in World War II lasted less than 4 years. Whereas Bush seems to have let America drift into a state of perpetual war, with no hope of putting al-Qaeda out of business, yet obviously unable to surrender to them either. Perpetual war means a state of perpetual hemorrhage of morality. And that, in the long run, could doom a democratic society like America.

This information is contained in the 9/11 commission report. The commission asked for and received all intelligence gained from torture.

So for 86 waterbordings this is all we got!

Full details

here.http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/abu-zubaydah-waterboarded-83-times-for-10-pieces-of-intelligence/

1. “Abu Zubaydah describes his role running the Khaldan and Derunta training camps.”

2. “Abu Zubaydah describes Rahim al-Nashiri’s success as a recruiter.”

3. “AZ describes Bin Laden’s popularity.”

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4. “AZ gives tempered description of KSM’s popularity.”

5. “AZ insisted there were no ties between al Qaeda and Iraq.”

6. “AZ claims Bin Laden expanded the scope of KSM’s original plan.”

7. “AZ provides description of the origins of “the Encyclopedia,” a terrorist training manual created during the anti-Soviet campaign.”

8. “AZ provides a description of Bin Laden’s actions after the Cole bombing.”

9. “AZ provides information on Abu Turab, who reportedly conducted the final training for the 9/11 plotters.”

10. “AZ provides a comment on whether Saudis were selected for the 9/11 plot specifically.”

“I call on all governments to join with the United States and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture…” – Official proclamation by President Bush, June 26, 2003.

So there you have it from the horses mouth. we need to investigate, and prosecute according to President Bush. And he is never wrong. Right.

…..Ok your in favor of torture….you can’t draw distinctions because there aren’t any.

“Unfortunately, I believe that is what the GOP is counting on. They are sure that Obama’s soft foreign policy is going to invite another large-scale terrorist attack on our shores, and they are setting themselves up to make the most of it.”

…..Indeed they are…..just as they are hoping for economic failure…..And this is supposed to be the patriotic party….the problem is just as they did with the economy they are going to make it too obvious…. They simply have no idea of how exposed they are over this.

Unfortunately, I believe that is what the GOP is counting on. They are sure that Obama’s soft foreign policy is going to invite another large-scale terrorist attack on our shores, and they are setting themselves up to make the most of it.

Exactly how the liberals during the Bush Administration positioned themselves to profit from America’s difficulties in Iraq.

When Bush started doing these things way back in 2001-2002, I pleaded with my fellow conservatives to consider how they would feel if a future Democratic President (say Hillary, who conservatives hated back then) would use these measures against suspected right-wing extremists. I got no answer. I was prescient in my concerns, given the recent flap over that Homeland Security memo.

The answer is what our Founding Fathers gave us: Checks and balances. I suggested that extreme measures could be carried out by the Executive Branch, on a case by case basis, only if at least one of the other two branches of government were willing to sign off on that particular case. In our time, that would mean either Chief Justice Roberts or Speaker of the House Pelosi.

That would eliminate the possibility of the Executive Branch abusing its ability to order such measures.

Finally, I think it should be made policy that such measures should be used only as a last-ditch means of interrogation in a specific case. They should never be used for punishment or revenge. (Some folks on RedState.com believe that torture could be used because these terrorists “deserved it.” That is inadmissible in a civilized society.)

In America, police forces had used something call “the third degree” for many years. If they were pretty sure a suspect had committed a serious crime, they took him down into the basement of the police station and worked him over till he confessed.

In the 1960s, in the Escobedo v. Illinois case, the Supreme Court struck down forced confessions. But that means that we had been using forced confessions regularly in the U.S. in criminal investigations till the 1960s.