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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-51835</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamiltonian:  A couple other things:  Obama has endorsed military commissions to try terrorists (though with different rules than Bush). And he actually accepts the principle of preventive detention:  If it comes down to keeping a terrorist locked up vs. freeing him on grounds of illegally obtained evidence, Obama will keep him locked up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For this, he has gotten slammed by the ACLU and the left-wing blogosphere.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama hasn&#039;t exactly gone to Gitmo and freed all the detainees there.  He&#039;s at least *trying* to thread the needle on them, which I do give him credit for.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I disagree with Obama&#039;s handling of economic stimulus.  But I do *NOT* think Obama is some kind of American Josef Stalin, a Marxist dictator plotting to take away all our freedoms, as RedState.com and the Freepers seem to think.  Rather, this is just life under a liberal administration, like the LBJ or FDR administrations.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamiltonian:  A couple other things:  Obama has endorsed military commissions to try terrorists (though with different rules than Bush). And he actually accepts the principle of preventive detention:  If it comes down to keeping a terrorist locked up vs. freeing him on grounds of illegally obtained evidence, Obama will keep him locked up.For this, he has gotten slammed by the ACLU and the left-wing blogosphere.Obama hasn&#8217;t exactly gone to Gitmo and freed all the detainees there.  He&#8217;s at least *trying* to thread the needle on them, which I do give him credit for.I disagree with Obama&#8217;s handling of economic stimulus.  But I do *NOT* think Obama is some kind of American Josef Stalin, a Marxist dictator plotting to take away all our freedoms, as RedState.com and the Freepers seem to think.  Rather, this is just life under a liberal administration, like the LBJ or FDR administrations.</p>
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		<title>By: palomino70</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-53595</link>
		<dc:creator>palomino70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As my father exclaimed recently, &quot;when does Obama have time to run the country, if he&#039;s on television everyday.&quot;  This is a question to be pondered.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only question to be pondered here is how a media consultant with 15 years of experience could write such drivel.  Like him or not, Obama clearly has the intellect and skill to give a weekly presser AND carry out the rest of his duties, i.e., walk and chew gum simultaneously.  (Remember, he&#039;s not clearing brush or getting fellated in his office, so he can &quot;waste&quot; some of his valuable time to communicate with the public.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That Ms. Wright would posit this &quot;argument&quot; as the conclusion to a long post suggests a lack of seriousness and/or depth.  Some commenters here want her axed for ideological impurity; but it&#039;s simpler than that--just give her the boot for crappy writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As my father exclaimed recently, &#8220;when does Obama have time to run the country, if he&#8217;s on television everyday.&#8221;  This is a question to be pondered.&#8221;  The only question to be pondered here is how a media consultant with 15 years of experience could write such drivel.  Like him or not, Obama clearly has the intellect and skill to give a weekly presser AND carry out the rest of his duties, i.e., walk and chew gum simultaneously.  (Remember, he&#8217;s not clearing brush or getting fellated in his office, so he can &#8220;waste&#8221; some of his valuable time to communicate with the public.)That Ms. Wright would posit this &#8220;argument&#8221; as the conclusion to a long post suggests a lack of seriousness and/or depth.  Some commenters here want her axed for ideological impurity; but it&#8217;s simpler than that&#8211;just give her the boot for crappy writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamiltonian</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-49378</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamiltonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shouldn&#039;t give up on Obama, yet. The fact that he&#039;s taking so much flack from the activist left suggests that he&#039;s doing something right. Although we should complain about the stimulus, huge deficits as far as the eye can see, and a very questionable cap and trade scheme, we also have a lot to be thankful for: troop increases in Afghanistan, modest (and necessary) tax increases, sensible policies concerning detainees, a let-sleeping-dogs-lie attitude toward abortion and gun control, and a general lack of hard-left policy pushes. Again, if the lefty bloggers adnd activists are whining, then we should be reassured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t give up on Obama, yet. The fact that he&#8217;s taking so much flack from the activist left suggests that he&#8217;s doing something right. Although we should complain about the stimulus, huge deficits as far as the eye can see, and a very questionable cap and trade scheme, we also have a lot to be thankful for: troop increases in Afghanistan, modest (and necessary) tax increases, sensible policies concerning detainees, a let-sleeping-dogs-lie attitude toward abortion and gun control, and a general lack of hard-left policy pushes. Again, if the lefty bloggers adnd activists are whining, then we should be reassured.</p>
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		<title>By: jjv</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-54768</link>
		<dc:creator>jjv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, back.  As for the comments Christopher Buckley is not an idiot and he voted for Obama. Bush fatigue was real.  Young people want to be new and inclusive and Obama embodies &quot;the United Colors of Benneton.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, back.  As for the comments Christopher Buckley is not an idiot and he voted for Obama. Bush fatigue was real.  Young people want to be new and inclusive and Obama embodies &#8220;the United Colors of Benneton.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WINDe</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-51266</link>
		<dc:creator>WINDe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: NotFooled&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;No conservative of any stripe, with enough intelligence to graduate eighth grade could be taken in by the affirmative action Kenyan.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This statement is so vague and generalized, so beleaguered by bigoted linguistic earmarks, that it&#039;s impossible to agree with unless you&#039;re just as bigoted as NotFooled is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if you had said &quot;any conservative who thought Obama was going to cut taxes for the wealthiest 5% and enact a spending freeze on all facets of government isn&#039;t much of an attentive conservative&quot; I could have agreed with you.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, it&#039;s a pointlessly obvious statement to make, but good work NotFooled, way to point out the obvious with such bigoted vitriol that even another conservative can&#039;t agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: NotFooled&#8221;No conservative of any stripe, with enough intelligence to graduate eighth grade could be taken in by the affirmative action Kenyan.&#8221;This statement is so vague and generalized, so beleaguered by bigoted linguistic earmarks, that it&#8217;s impossible to agree with unless you&#8217;re just as bigoted as NotFooled is.if you had said &#8220;any conservative who thought Obama was going to cut taxes for the wealthiest 5% and enact a spending freeze on all facets of government isn&#8217;t much of an attentive conservative&#8221; I could have agreed with you.  Of course, it&#8217;s a pointlessly obvious statement to make, but good work NotFooled, way to point out the obvious with such bigoted vitriol that even another conservative can&#8217;t agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: bens</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-52287</link>
		<dc:creator>bens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Welcome aboard Crystal- one more for the good guys! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard Crystal- one more for the good guys!</p>
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		<title>By: greg_barton</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-41177</link>
		<dc:creator>greg_barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Bush spends like a drunken sailor and it&#039;s OK?  Bush suggests that Gitmo should be closed and it&#039;s OK?  But Obama does the same things and it&#039;s somehow wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Bush spends like a drunken sailor and it&#8217;s OK?  Bush suggests that Gitmo should be closed and it&#8217;s OK?  But Obama does the same things and it&#8217;s somehow wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-5#comment-38780</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, Bruce Bartlett didn&#039;t help write the Contract.  It was another noted conservative, Larry Hunter, who helped write the Contract with America--and in 2008, he endorsed Obama.  Same reason.  He didn&#039;t like Bush&#039;s policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, Bruce Bartlett didn&#8217;t help write the Contract.  It was another noted conservative, Larry Hunter, who helped write the Contract with America&#8211;and in 2008, he endorsed Obama.  Same reason.  He didn&#8217;t like Bush&#8217;s policies.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-4#comment-45163</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NotFooled:  Noted conservatives Douglas Kmiec (who is a pro-life Catholic), and Bruce Bartlett (who had helped Gingrich write the Contract with America), explained why they supported Obama in 2008 instead of McCain: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They were disgusted by the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately, Ms. Wright did not give her own reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NotFooled:  Noted conservatives Douglas Kmiec (who is a pro-life Catholic), and Bruce Bartlett (who had helped Gingrich write the Contract with America), explained why they supported Obama in 2008 instead of McCain: They were disgusted by the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act.Unfortunately, Ms. Wright did not give her own reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: NotFooled</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/obama-buyers-remorse/comment-page-4#comment-52825</link>
		<dc:creator>NotFooled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no difference between Zerobama the candidate, and the information available about him, and President Zero.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No conservative of any stripe, with enough intelligence to graduate eighth grade could be taken in by the affirmative action Kenyan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the bright side Crystal, tell &#039;em you voted &#039;bama.  You&#039;ll get invited to the best Washington parties, and of course, THAT&#039;S where it&#039;s at. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy it.There is no difference between Zerobama the candidate, and the information available about him, and President Zero.No conservative of any stripe, with enough intelligence to graduate eighth grade could be taken in by the affirmative action Kenyan.On the bright side Crystal, tell &#8216;em you voted &#8216;bama.  You&#8217;ll get invited to the best Washington parties, and of course, THAT&#8217;S where it&#8217;s at.</p>
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