Comments on: NY-23: Wasted Money, Wasted Effort

By: ottovbvs

ottovbvs — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:37:08 +0000

……..As someone who thinks the GOP needs to go through a period of reflection in the wilderness if it’s to have any chance of returning to the real world the words of the ditchers like Prof, Franco, Churl are music to my ears……they learn nothing………when things go wrong just do more of what you were doing……Go knock yourselves out guys I wish you all the luck in the world…….a party that is totally in thrall to Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, et al has no strong appeal outside the south…..so go right ahead have fun.

By: joemarier

joemarier — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:12:04 +0000

ProfNickD, I know everyone’s saying that, but that’s bull. A lot of that money was spent attacking Owens, first of all, particularly when it became clear Scozzafava wasn’t going to win. The Club for Growth alone spent a cool million. How much did money and time did Freedomworks spend? How about the Susan B. Anthony List? NOM? They buried the NRCC money and time-wise, and they came up short.

By: ProfNickD

ProfNickD — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:59:02 +0000

The wasted effort in the district was the $900K that the RNCC spent on the Scozzafava campaign — which to me amounts to a borderline criminal act given that it mostly went to vendors and consultants close to national GOP figures.

By: joemarier

joemarier — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:32:44 +0000

Was Christie pro-life? He did a great job de-emphasizing that. And he has 4 Supreme Justices to pick. Out of seven. WIN!

By: Churl

Churl — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:32:07 +0000

ottovbs is correct, “Owen’s arrival will make no difference to Pelosi’s majority in DC.”

Indeed, Scozza’s arrival in DC could have in effect increased Pelosi’s majority in DC.

As for the internal politics of the GOP, the GOP establishment may begin to realize that it is possible to get votes for candidates to the right of Arlen Specter.

By: joemarier

joemarier — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:31:43 +0000

DFL: EXACTLY. Good comment. No retired military officer with any sense would have run on the Conservative Party ticket, but that was the only way to win it. Failing that, the race should have been Lieberman/Wieker ‘88.

By: franco 2

franco 2 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:29:43 +0000

Funny how ‘off year elections” brought Obama to NJ 5 times to prop up well-funded Corzine in a azure blue State vs. a pro-life Republican. Yeah, meaningless…..

By: franco 2

franco 2 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:25:32 +0000

………the results of these three races(NY/NJ/VA) have next to no informational value about wider national issues or next year……

HAhahahahahaha

By: ottovbvs

ottovbvs — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:00:26 +0000

balconesfault // Nov 4, 2009 at 9:46 am

“Probably not.”

………Probably not indeed…….this race would have been a typical low temperature, low turnout contest in an off off year and Scozza would have wafted to victory with very few people noticing one way or the other……now it’s a cause celebre………the results of these three races(NY/NJ/VA) have next to no informational value about wider national issues or next year…….NJ/VA will be forgotten in a week…….Owen’s arrival will make no difference to Pelosi’s majority in DC……..the only wake it will leave behind is one that is going to effects the internal politics of the GOP.

By: DFL

DFL — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:57:45 +0000

Owens won despite his party identification because he seemed more interested in the problems of his district than did Hoffman, who seemed to relish in his ignorance of 23rd District issues. It also helped that Owens has a much more manly mien in comparison to the dorky Hoffman. Republicans need to run more muted conservatives like McDonnell and Christie who understand the nuts and bolts of parochial issues than Limbaugh/National Review/Free Republic internet flame king conservatives, most of whom seem to be legends in their own minds.