Comments on: Nelson Rockefeller: Ego And Fiscal Recklessness

By: Cforchange

Cforchange — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:13:48 +0000

Yeah I don’t think the ticket has been id’d. Palin has extra, extra baggage, only has experience managing in good times plus is she really something new and different – tax issue or even just taking the per diem in the first place says alot. All the others just don’t have screen pop which is all Palin brings. I’m looking for the reincarnation of Senator John Heinz…. We need a hit out of the ballpark.

By: HollywoodBill

HollywoodBill — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:42:37 +0000

Good observations and inspiring personal history Cforchange. Out in the West, the decline of the GOP is due to the rise of the Southern moralizing busybody brigade who want to and are turning the GOP into a tiny, tattered traveling revival tent. I wholeheartedly agree that the future of the GOP is going to come from a very Democratic area of the country, like New England or the Pacific Coast. A candidate who is capable of reaching people in a different way and creating a real New Majority. One guarantee is that an incredible defeat of historic proportions is in store for the Republicans should they be so idiotic as to even consider the totally unacceptable Palin or Jindal for the top spot in 2012.

By: Cforchange

Cforchange — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:54:04 +0000

think more at the demise of the Northeastern Republican was the ideology shift to where it became totally evil to pay taxes and other business obligations. So the masses migrated to new lands where focus was money making off of developing new infastructure versus paying to maintain what was already there. Just leave your obligations to pensioned employees and state governments that provided the public works, head to new lands and start new business. When the bills are due there – time to head overseas. Snowbird workers went right along with the plan.
After 40 years of this behavior, it remains to be seen what is left. I was raised by and then married Northeast Republican’s who believed that paying taxes was a good thing – it meant you made a profit. Making money is a good thing – paying the bills associated with profits is duty. The first intelligent, charasmatic, business wise and socially reasonable Republican candidate to rise up from our current mess will take the nation by storm – I bet this candidate will come from the Northeast.

By: dendup

dendup — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:55:04 +0000

I’m not sure what lessons the current right or left can learn from NR – he really was a political party of 1 in a state and time of some very unique characteristics. His overuse of public benefit authorities and his “edifiice complex” combined with the deindustrilzaton of the state were behind the state’s fiscal problems. I haven’t heard the phrase “Rockefellar Rep.” in a long time. The few remaining moderate are quite a bit more conservative on social and fiscal issues than he was.

By: HollywoodBill

HollywoodBill — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:02:29 +0000

Good stuff Bulldoglover as usual. Since we’re now both the target of a cyberpsychopath on this site, it’s heartening to see your valued comments still appearing. While Rockefeller Republicans has become a perjorative term to the Revival Tent Republicans now dominating the GOP, the spirit still continues and may be the way out of the wilderness. And the Palinistas still refuse to believe that a Dem in the White House is preferable to a totally unacceptable candidate like Palin. As for Jindal, the Louisiana excorcist is a regional candidate wih no appeal outside of Dixie and the Bible Belt. The moderate wing, or the liberatarian Western states wing of the GOP will never go along with an inferior candidate like Sarah Palin or Jindal..

By: Bulldoglover100

Bulldoglover100 — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:23:00 +0000

A Cautionary tale for certain but what does one do? Listen to the far right? those who think the liberal and moderates will support their choice? Not going to happen so where does one look for that next great leader?
Palin is a joke and cost us 2008, Romney is a Mormon and that won’t fly with many members of the GOP, Jindal is probably the best bet but he is not as vicious as Palin or Romney so may fade into the backdrop.
“Rocky” may not have reached the top spot but he was more realistic than many in his own party. This is where the hard right always pulls the GOP down, their inability to deal with reality.