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		<title>By: MSheridan</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/necessary-evil/comment-page-1#comment-50943</link>
		<dc:creator>MSheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see the post removed below, but as long as this thread is already somewhat side-tracked, I&#039;ll mention I was disconcerted to see one of my own comments removed a few weeks back that seemed unobjectionable and completely on-topic to me. Another commenter had requested someone provide concrete evidence a certain talk-radio personality, the subject of the thread in question, had in fact ever espoused racist beliefs or made racist comments. I noticed no one had responded (at least no one whose post had survived...) and quite respectfully provided some direct quotes--as I recall, I only provided quotes for which I&#039;d also been able to provide sources as well. My post (but not the other) was removed within the day, leaving anyone who later encountered the thread with the false impression that no one had been willing to back up or substantiate their grounds for having such a belief. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the moderation policy as quoted below is fine as written and as this current post of mine IS in fact off-topic, I&#039;ll be perfectly unconcerned if it is removed--I&#039;d just would like whoever is moderating this forum to consider that it&#039;s probably impossible to create a new and stronger political philosophy/movement if you don&#039;t allow ideas to be honed against the whetstone of opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see the post removed below, but as long as this thread is already somewhat side-tracked, I&#8217;ll mention I was disconcerted to see one of my own comments removed a few weeks back that seemed unobjectionable and completely on-topic to me. Another commenter had requested someone provide concrete evidence a certain talk-radio personality, the subject of the thread in question, had in fact ever espoused racist beliefs or made racist comments. I noticed no one had responded (at least no one whose post had survived&#8230;) and quite respectfully provided some direct quotes&#8211;as I recall, I only provided quotes for which I&#8217;d also been able to provide sources as well. My post (but not the other) was removed within the day, leaving anyone who later encountered the thread with the false impression that no one had been willing to back up or substantiate their grounds for having such a belief. I think the moderation policy as quoted below is fine as written and as this current post of mine IS in fact off-topic, I&#8217;ll be perfectly unconcerned if it is removed&#8211;I&#8217;d just would like whoever is moderating this forum to consider that it&#8217;s probably impossible to create a new and stronger political philosophy/movement if you don&#8217;t allow ideas to be honed against the whetstone of opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: midcon</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/necessary-evil/comment-page-1#comment-51998</link>
		<dc:creator>midcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well barker13 was right, his post was removed.   That is very troubling.  New Majority, the following is directly from your comment policy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot; While we do not censor comments based on political or ideological point of view, comments that are abusive, engage in personal attacks, contain racist, sexist, homophobic or other slurs, express hatred, are off-topic, use excessive foul language, or include any other type of ad hominem attacks (including comments that celebrate the death or illness of any person, public figure or otherwise) will be subject to removal. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Based on my reading of barker13s post, it does not meet the your stated policy of the type of post that would be censored, unless you categorize it as off topic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to assess how you are applying this policy.   Even my post which is wholly about his post can be construed to be off topic.   In fact many posts in many of the threads here are actually off topic and they were not deleted.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am here because there does not seem to be anyplace else for me as a moderate conservative, independent, Republican wanna be.    Let&#039;s be careful at what we exclude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well barker13 was right, his post was removed.   That is very troubling.  New Majority, the following is directly from your comment policy.&#8221; While we do not censor comments based on political or ideological point of view, comments that are abusive, engage in personal attacks, contain racist, sexist, homophobic or other slurs, express hatred, are off-topic, use excessive foul language, or include any other type of ad hominem attacks (including comments that celebrate the death or illness of any person, public figure or otherwise) will be subject to removal. &#8220;Based on my reading of barker13s post, it does not meet the your stated policy of the type of post that would be censored, unless you categorize it as off topic.You need to assess how you are applying this policy.   Even my post which is wholly about his post can be construed to be off topic.   In fact many posts in many of the threads here are actually off topic and they were not deleted.I am here because there does not seem to be anyplace else for me as a moderate conservative, independent, Republican wanna be.    Let&#8217;s be careful at what we exclude.</p>
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		<title>By: barker13</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/necessary-evil/comment-page-1#comment-50471</link>
		<dc:creator>barker13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep... figured THAT post would be removed within minutes. (*SNORT*) BILL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230; figured THAT post would be removed within minutes. (*SNORT*) BILL</p>
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		<title>By: Bulldoglover100</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/necessary-evil/comment-page-1#comment-42244</link>
		<dc:creator>Bulldoglover100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And even sadder? Obama has been in office only 50 days so the blame cannot be laid at his feet....yet so many in our party want to do just that...and if allowed to do so? We will be doomed to repete the mistakes that got us here in the first place under our own watch......Evil? Only in the sense that no one appears ready to take responsibility for creating an enviroment that allowed such abuse. Republicans &amp; Democrats alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even sadder? Obama has been in office only 50 days so the blame cannot be laid at his feet&#8230;.yet so many in our party want to do just that&#8230;and if allowed to do so? We will be doomed to repete the mistakes that got us here in the first place under our own watch&#8230;&#8230;Evil? Only in the sense that no one appears ready to take responsibility for creating an enviroment that allowed such abuse. Republicans &#038; Democrats alike.</p>
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