Miss the debate? You can watch it here, via New Majority California.
Ending thoughts: It was a disappointing debate – they ended up agreeing on everything, and picking around on the margins. Whitman hit harder at Poizner; Poizner used more aggressive language to express his vision; both visions appear to differ very little.
If I were a California GOP primary voter, I would have left with my previous biases unchanged, and likely a little disappointed with both candidates.
I think both Poizner and Whitman could have given better performances, given us a little more back and forth, and articulated their differences better.
FrumForum LiveBlog Transcript:
8:22
Welcome to the FrumForum LiveBlog of the California GOP Gubernatorial Debate between Meg Whitman and Steve Poizner!
We’ll be getting underway shortly – the stream of the debate, seen above, will go live at 8:25.
8:32
Tim Mak:
This debate, hosted by California’s ‘New Majority’ group, is being held at the Samueli Theater in Costa Mesa, California.
| 8:38 | Tim Mak:
As you can see, New Majority California’s Live Stream’s is a bit buggy. |
| 8:39 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: I will cut taxes across-the-board by 10% & cut capital gains by 50%. |
| 8:41 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: Let me be clear: I don’t support any tax or fee increases – they’re already too high. Raising taxes chases the tax base out of the state. We do have to do something about spending, he says – Poizner proposes a 10% cut in spending. Here’s his specific plan: http://bit.ly/7HZa4C |
| 8:41 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: I am also not for increasing tax. |
| 8:42 | Tim Mak:
Whitman is not for the legalization of marijuana. |
| 8:42 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: Sustainable growth? Must put people back to work. Improve the business climate in California. |
| 8:43 | Tim Mak:
Whitman and Poizner have very similar talking points when it comes to taxation: it’s too high. Let’s cut it. |
| 8:44 | Tim Mak:
“Another major difference between Meg and Me. I don’t listen to NPR,” jokes Poizner. |
| 8:45 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: When every GOP member of Congress was voting for the Bush tax cuts, Steve campaigned against that. |
| 8:45 | Tim Mak:
Howard Jarvis Taxpayer’s Assoc looked at both candidates “and decided to endorse me,” says Whitman. |
| 8:47 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: I will veto any attempt to do away with the 2/3s majority required to pass a budget. |
| 8:47 | Tim Mak:
This begins with focus, doing small things well and using the veto effectively. |
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| 8:48 | Tim Mak:
Yes! Better, working feed from CBS: http://bit.ly/XbYSK |
| 8:48 | Tim Mak:
Poizner agrees with the 2/3s majority required to pass a budget. |
| 8:49 | Tim Mak:
Other than the NPR joke, very little seems to differentiate the two candidates at this point. Where will they diverge? |
| 8:51 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: Wants a P/T California legislature to eliminate corruption and send citizen-legislators to Sacramento. |
| 8:54 | Tim Mak:
The debate has moved to the topic of education. |
| 8:54 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: We have to get our economy back on track so we can reform our education system. No jobs, no growing economy, no investment available for education. |
| 8:55 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: As Gov, my first priority will be public safety. But right up there is education. |
| 8:55 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: California Public University system is a “gem” – my first priority is jobs, and the education system is our education engine. |
| 8:57 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: Not everyone is going to end up at UC Berkeley – we need to put vocational education back in the high schools. |
| 8:59 | Tim Mak:
Conan Nolan, assignment reporter for KNBC in Los Angeles, is moderating the debate. |
| 9:03 | Tim Mak:
Again, I’m not seeing much disagreement between the two politicians here. Whitman agrees with Poizner on vocational training, charter schools, pride in UC state system. |
| 9:04 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: “We largely agree on this subject.” |
| 9:06 | Tim Mak:
Let’s talk about the environment. AB-32: Greenhouse gas initiative. |
| 9:08 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: “It’s called global warming, not state warming… we are not an economic island.” |
| 9:09 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: I want a one-year moratorium on AB-32, puts California at a competitive disadvantage. AB-32 will not create new green jobs – we need to create green jobs by reducing regulation, taxes. |
| 9:10 | Tim Mak:
Both are saying that they should harmonize regulatory bodies. |
| 9:11 | Tim Mak:
At this point, this is nowhere as contentious as the Fiorina-Campbell-DeVore debate last week. |
| 9:12 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: AB-32 “draconian”. Wants a moratorium until unemployment drops to 5.5%. |
| 9:13 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: Moratorium for 1 year Not a trivial difference, but not particularly large either. |
| 9:15 | Tim Mak:
Immigration is now the topic. |
| 9:15 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: 100% against amnesty. We have not secured the border. Border patrol doesn’t have the tech they need. We have to hold employers accountable for hiring documented workers. Must use e-Verify. We have got to eliminate sanctuary cities. |
| 9:15 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: “I agree with most of what Meg said.” |
| 9:17 | Tim Mak:
On education, on the environment and on immigration, I’m not seeing any decisive moves by either candidate to draw a distinction. Being behind in the polls, the onus is on Poizner. |
| 9:18 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: Whitman’s attacks are “nasty”, “misleading”. |
| 9:18 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: You endorsed Barbara Boxer! |
| 9:21 | Tim Mak:
Moderator Fact-Check: Both Whitman and Poizner have supported Dems in the past. |
| 9:22 | Tim Mak:
Again: their candidacy, at least the way they’re presenting themselves, are VERY similar. The small difference I see is that Poizner is using more aggressive rhetoric – he wants dramatic, radical reform in California, he says. |
| 9:26 | Tim Mak:
RT @Kimberly4Meg: StevePoizner says he’s “Alex Keating” from Family Ties… not feeling that analogy as strong leader for California! |
| 9:26 | Tim Mak:
RT @StevePoizner Fact: Meg Whitman voted for @StevePoizner in 2004 http://bit.ly/cGWtaI |
| 9:27 | Tim Mak:
Final Statements! |
| 9:28 | Tim Mak:
Whitman: Our state is in big trouble. Most worrisome is CA’s crisis of confidence… I know we can change California – we can make the Golden State golden again. My approach starts with focus: I’m a big believer in doing three things well, rather than ten things in a mediocre way. Her big three: creating jobs, cutting spending and improving education. |
| 9:30 | Tim Mak:
Poizner: “We have differences.” Not from what I’ve seen tonight. |
| 9:32 | Tim Mak:
Poizner is FINALLY focusing on differences: he wants across the board tax cuts; Whitman only wants targeted tax cuts. |
| 9:33 | Tim Mak:
Strong finish by Poizner. I’ve been there – I’ve done that. I’ve worked in the WH, I’ve been elected state-wide, I’ve taught in a California public high school. |
| 9:37 | Tim Mak:
It was a disappointing debate – they ended up agreeing on everything, and picking around on the margins. Whitman hit harder at Poizner; Poizner used more aggressive language to express his vision; both visions appear to differ very little. If I were a California GOP primary voter, I would have left with my previous biases unchanged, and likely a little disappointed with both candidates. I think both Poizner and Whitman could have given better performances, given us a little more back and forth, and articulated their differences better. |
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oldgal // Mar 16, 2010 at 7:28 am
Both candidates seem totally unaware they have to do this by working through a totally dysfunctional legislature…good luck