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March 15th, 2010 at 7:15 pm Tim Mak | 1 Comment |

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Miss the debate? You can watch it here, via New Majority California.

Ending thoughts: It was a disappointing debate – they ended up agreeing on everything, and picking around on the margins. Whitman hit harder at Poizner; Poizner used more aggressive language to express his vision; both visions appear to differ very little.

If I were a California GOP primary voter, I would have left with my previous biases unchanged, and likely a little disappointed with both candidates.

I think both Poizner and Whitman could have given better performances, given us a little more back and forth, and articulated their differences better.

FrumForum LiveBlog Transcript:

8:22

Welcome to the FrumForum LiveBlog of the California GOP Gubernatorial Debate between Meg Whitman and Steve Poizner!


We’ll be getting underway shortly – the stream of the debate, seen above, will go live at 8:25.

8:32

Tim Mak:

This debate, hosted by California’s ‘New Majority’ group, is being held at the Samueli Theater in Costa Mesa, California.


8:38 Tim Mak:



As you can see, New Majority California’s Live Stream’s is a bit buggy.

8:39 Tim Mak:



Poizner: I will cut taxes across-the-board by 10% & cut capital gains by 50%.

8:41 Tim Mak:



Poizner: Let me be clear: I don’t support any tax or fee increases – they’re already too high.

Raising taxes chases the tax base out of the state.

We do have to do something about spending, he says – Poizner proposes a 10% cut in spending. Here’s his specific plan: http://bit.ly/7HZa4C

8:41 Tim Mak:



Whitman: I am also not for increasing tax.

8:42 Tim Mak:



Whitman is not for the legalization of marijuana.

8:42 Tim Mak:



Whitman: Sustainable growth? Must put people back to work. Improve the business climate in California.

8:43 Tim Mak:



Whitman and Poizner have very similar talking points when it comes to taxation: it’s too high. Let’s cut it.

8:44 Tim Mak:



“Another major difference between Meg and Me. I don’t listen to NPR,” jokes Poizner.

8:45 Tim Mak:



Whitman: When every GOP member of Congress was voting for the Bush tax cuts, Steve campaigned against that.

8:45 Tim Mak:



Howard Jarvis Taxpayer’s Assoc looked at both candidates “and decided to endorse me,” says Whitman.

8:47 Tim Mak:



Whitman: I will veto any attempt to do away with the 2/3s majority required to pass a budget.

8:47 Tim Mak:



This begins with focus, doing small things well and using the veto effectively.

8:48
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is there a less sucky feed?

8:48 Tim Mak:



Yes! Better, working feed from CBS: http://bit.ly/XbYSK

8:48 Tim Mak:



Poizner agrees with the 2/3s majority required to pass a budget.

8:49 Tim Mak:



Other than the NPR joke, very little seems to differentiate the two candidates at this point. Where will they diverge?

8:51 Tim Mak:



Poizner: Wants a P/T California legislature to eliminate corruption and send citizen-legislators to Sacramento.

8:54 Tim Mak:



The debate has moved to the topic of education.

8:54 Tim Mak:



Poizner: We have to get our economy back on track so we can reform our education system.

No jobs, no growing economy, no investment available for education.

8:55 Tim Mak:



Poizner: As Gov, my first priority will be public safety. But right up there is education.

8:55 Tim Mak:



Whitman: California Public University system is a “gem” – my first priority is jobs, and the education system is our education engine.

8:57 Tim Mak:



Poizner: Not everyone is going to end up at UC Berkeley – we need to put vocational education back in the high schools.

8:59 Tim Mak:



Conan Nolan, assignment reporter for KNBC in Los Angeles, is moderating the debate.


9:03 Tim Mak:



Again, I’m not seeing much disagreement between the two politicians here. Whitman agrees with Poizner on vocational training, charter schools, pride in UC state system.

9:04 Tim Mak:



Whitman: “We largely agree on this subject.”

9:06 Tim Mak:



Let’s talk about the environment. AB-32: Greenhouse gas initiative.

9:08 Tim Mak:



Poizner: “It’s called global warming, not state warming… we are not an economic island.”

9:09 Tim Mak:



Whitman: I want a one-year moratorium on AB-32, puts California at a competitive disadvantage.

AB-32 will not create new green jobs – we need to create green jobs by reducing regulation, taxes.

9:10 Tim Mak:



Both are saying that they should harmonize regulatory bodies.

9:11 Tim Mak:



At this point, this is nowhere as contentious as the Fiorina-Campbell-DeVore debate last week.

9:12 Tim Mak:



Poizner: AB-32 “draconian”. Wants a moratorium until unemployment drops to 5.5%.

9:13 Tim Mak:



Whitman: Moratorium for 1 year
Poizner: Moratorium until unemployment drops to 5.5%

Not a trivial difference, but not particularly large either.

9:15 Tim Mak:



Immigration is now the topic.

9:15 Tim Mak:



Whitman: 100% against amnesty. We have not secured the border. Border patrol doesn’t have the tech they need.

We have to hold employers accountable for hiring documented workers. Must use e-Verify.

We have got to eliminate sanctuary cities.

9:15 Tim Mak:



Poizner: “I agree with most of what Meg said.”

9:17 Tim Mak:



On education, on the environment and on immigration, I’m not seeing any decisive moves by either candidate to draw a distinction.

Being behind in the polls, the onus is on Poizner.

9:18 Tim Mak:



Poizner: Whitman’s attacks are “nasty”, “misleading”.

9:18 Tim Mak:



Poizner: You endorsed Barbara Boxer!

9:21 Tim Mak:



Moderator Fact-Check: Both Whitman and Poizner have supported Dems in the past.

9:22 Tim Mak:



Again: their candidacy, at least the way they’re presenting themselves, are VERY similar.

The small difference I see is that Poizner is using more aggressive rhetoric – he wants dramatic, radical reform in California, he says.

9:26 Tim Mak:



RT @Kimberly4Meg: StevePoizner says he’s “Alex Keating” from Family Ties… not feeling that analogy as strong leader for California!

9:26 Tim Mak:



RT @StevePoizner Fact: Meg Whitman voted for @StevePoizner in 2004 http://bit.ly/cGWtaI

9:27 Tim Mak:



Final Statements!

9:28 Tim Mak:



Whitman: Our state is in big trouble. Most worrisome is CA’s crisis of confidence… I know we can change California – we can make the Golden State golden again. My approach starts with focus: I’m a big believer in doing three things well, rather than ten things in a mediocre way.

Her big three: creating jobs, cutting spending and improving education.

9:30 Tim Mak:



Poizner: “We have differences.” Not from what I’ve seen tonight.

9:32 Tim Mak:



Poizner is FINALLY focusing on differences: he wants across the board tax cuts; Whitman only wants targeted tax cuts.

9:33 Tim Mak:



Strong finish by Poizner. I’ve been there – I’ve done that. I’ve worked in the WH, I’ve been elected state-wide, I’ve taught in a California public high school.

9:37 Tim Mak:



It was a disappointing debate – they ended up agreeing on everything, and picking around on the margins.

Whitman hit harder at Poizner; Poizner used more aggressive language to express his vision; both visions appear to differ very little.

If I were a California GOP primary voter, I would have left with my previous biases unchanged, and likely a little disappointed with both candidates.

I think both Poizner and Whitman could have given better performances, given us a little more back and forth, and articulated their differences better.

 

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