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		<title>By: Independent</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/live-blogging-the-election/comment-page-1#comment-70845</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>balcones&#039; shooting blanks: &quot;I suspect that when Scozza resigned, a message probably came through for many – even if you are dissatisfied by Pelosi and Reid and even Obama … there is no home for you in the Republican Party&quot;.

i love the hardcore democrats here trying to tell all of us what republicans thought; is that part of the definition of a frumforum troll?

as an independent, here&#039;s what i heard at the celebration in NJ.  when gov-elect chris christie was thanking the few core people who made his campaign a winning campaign, he thanked former gov tom kean and former gov christy todd whitman --2 republican rinos of the 80s.  any message that moderate republicans might glean from NY23rd or from highly suspect partisan trolls like balcones and rbottoms is muted, blunted and destroyed by the truth.

i&#039;d think that rather than try to spin some insincere advice, these democrat trolls might want to spend some time reflecting on why independents broke 2:1 for christie over corzine in spite of democrats spending over $45m to keep the seat a D.

even if you are the president, you can&#039;t try repeatedly selling a rotten corpse to the masses and not smell of the stench in the morning.  the fallout has already started and that&#039;s why harry reid is saying &quot;not yet&quot; to the president&#039;s #1 legislative agenda: health care reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>balcones&#8217; shooting blanks: &#8220;I suspect that when Scozza resigned, a message probably came through for many – even if you are dissatisfied by Pelosi and Reid and even Obama … there is no home for you in the Republican Party&#8221;.</p>
<p>i love the hardcore democrats here trying to tell all of us what republicans thought; is that part of the definition of a frumforum troll?</p>
<p>as an independent, here&#8217;s what i heard at the celebration in NJ.  when gov-elect chris christie was thanking the few core people who made his campaign a winning campaign, he thanked former gov tom kean and former gov christy todd whitman &#8211;2 republican rinos of the 80s.  any message that moderate republicans might glean from NY23rd or from highly suspect partisan trolls like balcones and rbottoms is muted, blunted and destroyed by the truth.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d think that rather than try to spin some insincere advice, these democrat trolls might want to spend some time reflecting on why independents broke 2:1 for christie over corzine in spite of democrats spending over $45m to keep the seat a D.</p>
<p>even if you are the president, you can&#8217;t try repeatedly selling a rotten corpse to the masses and not smell of the stench in the morning.  the fallout has already started and that&#8217;s why harry reid is saying &#8220;not yet&#8221; to the president&#8217;s #1 legislative agenda: health care reform.</p>
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		<title>By: rbottoms</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/live-blogging-the-election/comment-page-1#comment-70842</link>
		<dc:creator>rbottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
suspect that when Scozza resigned, a message probably came through for many – even if you are dissatisfied by Pelosi and Reid and even Obama … there is no home for you in the Republican Party.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ya damn skippy.</description>
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suspect that when Scozza resigned, a message probably came through for many – even if you are dissatisfied by Pelosi and Reid and even Obama … there is no home for you in the Republican Party.
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<p>Ya damn skippy.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; you can put whatever poll you want, but if this were 2008 with the same candidates, democrats keep VA and NJ.&lt;/b&gt;

Possibly true - have to look at the breakdowns.  Certainly the additional new voters who came out to the polls to elect Obama could have had an impact.

Also, in Virginia, Deeds didn&#039;t really give Dems much reason to turn out for him.  In recent months he came out both against cap-and-trade, and against the public option.  I don&#039;t see why McDonnell won&#039;t be as good a Governor as Deeds may have been.

&lt;b&gt;great, now dems can use NY 23 race to convince wavering dems to back obama’s massive health care overhaul.&lt;/b&gt;

I suspect that when Scozza resigned, a message probably came through for many - &lt;i&gt;even if you are dissatisfied by Pelosi and Reid and even Obama ... there is no home for you in the Republican Party.&lt;/i&gt;

That certainly gives them incentive to make up with the base before 2010 rolls around and they need some fundraising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> you can put whatever poll you want, but if this were 2008 with the same candidates, democrats keep VA and NJ.</b></p>
<p>Possibly true &#8211; have to look at the breakdowns.  Certainly the additional new voters who came out to the polls to elect Obama could have had an impact.</p>
<p>Also, in Virginia, Deeds didn&#8217;t really give Dems much reason to turn out for him.  In recent months he came out both against cap-and-trade, and against the public option.  I don&#8217;t see why McDonnell won&#8217;t be as good a Governor as Deeds may have been.</p>
<p><b>great, now dems can use NY 23 race to convince wavering dems to back obama’s massive health care overhaul.</b></p>
<p>I suspect that when Scozza resigned, a message probably came through for many &#8211; <i>even if you are dissatisfied by Pelosi and Reid and even Obama &#8230; there is no home for you in the Republican Party.</i></p>
<p>That certainly gives them incentive to make up with the base before 2010 rolls around and they need some fundraising.</p>
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		<title>By: johnmarzan</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/live-blogging-the-election/comment-page-1#comment-70838</link>
		<dc:creator>johnmarzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great, now dems can use NY 23 race to convince wavering dems to back obama&#039;s massive health care overhaul.

GOP can use this to scare conservatives against splitting the party in 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great, now dems can use NY 23 race to convince wavering dems to back obama&#8217;s massive health care overhaul.</p>
<p>GOP can use this to scare conservatives against splitting the party in 2.</p>
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		<title>By: johnmarzan</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/live-blogging-the-election/comment-page-1#comment-70837</link>
		<dc:creator>johnmarzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in a way, the loss of doug hoffman is a good lesson for GOP and tea baggers. if GOP and tea party doesn&#039;t unite and republicans continue to deal with multiple third party &quot;NY 23&quot; races in 2010 across the coutnry, it will lose big time to democrats. republicans will become demoralized by 2010 debacle, and tea baggers will finally be marginalized as fringe who destroyed republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in a way, the loss of doug hoffman is a good lesson for GOP and tea baggers. if GOP and tea party doesn&#8217;t unite and republicans continue to deal with multiple third party &#8220;NY 23&#8243; races in 2010 across the coutnry, it will lose big time to democrats. republicans will become demoralized by 2010 debacle, and tea baggers will finally be marginalized as fringe who destroyed republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: johnmarzan</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnmarzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can put whatever poll you want, but if this were 2008 with the same candidates, democrats keep VA and NJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can put whatever poll you want, but if this were 2008 with the same candidates, democrats keep VA and NJ.</p>
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		<title>By: the botnet</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/live-blogging-the-election/comment-page-1#comment-70834</link>
		<dc:creator>the botnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, champions.
Not much going on over here...

Guess it isn&#039;t really a &quot;New Majority&quot; after all.
Damned redirect.

End Global Warming™

Love,
the botnet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, champions.<br />
Not much going on over here&#8230;</p>
<p>Guess it isn&#8217;t really a &#8220;New Majority&#8221; after all.<br />
Damned redirect.</p>
<p>End Global Warming™</p>
<p>Love,<br />
the botnet</p>
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		<title>By: johnmarzan</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/live-blogging-the-election/comment-page-1#comment-70833</link>
		<dc:creator>johnmarzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;NJ/VA: 55% of VA Voters, 60% of NJ voters say President Obama’s policies were not a factor in their vote.&quot;

of course, those were the states obama won by 20% (deep blue NJ) and 7%(VA) in 2008. of course obama is not a factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NJ/VA: 55% of VA Voters, 60% of NJ voters say President Obama’s policies were not a factor in their vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>of course, those were the states obama won by 20% (deep blue NJ) and 7%(VA) in 2008. of course obama is not a factor.</p>
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		<title>By: mthen</title>
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		<dc:creator>mthen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NMs candidate might just win in NY. Too bad their candidate lost in NJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NMs candidate might just win in NY. Too bad their candidate lost in NJ.</p>
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		<title>By: joemarier</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/live-blogging-the-election/comment-page-1#comment-70831</link>
		<dc:creator>joemarier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather, Tim has been covering NY-23 as a Scozzafava non-endorser(?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather, Tim has been covering NY-23 as a Scozzafava non-endorser(?)</p>
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