Limbaugh: How Dare Cain Find “Niggerhead” Offensive

October 4th, 2011 at 7:34 am | 127 Comments |

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After a story this weekend unturned the most famous rock in the recent history of presidential politics, some made a prediction which I hoped would prove incorrect: The person most at risk of harm from a racial controversy in the GOP race would prove to be Herman Cain. Cain has thrived in part by reassuring Republicans on race. The speech that won him the Florida CPAC straw poll passionately denied that there was any racial component to opposition to the Obama administration. But what would happen if Cain deviated from this script?

He deviated this Weekend. He said of the painted stone on the Perry Hunting tract: “Since Governor Perry has been going there for years to hunt, I think that it shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and renaming the place.”

The next day Rush Limbaugh took to the airwaves to blast Cain:

So here you have the Washington Post with an unsupported nonstory, and here comes Herman Cain piggybacking on it trying to capitalize on it, essentially letting the mainstream media (in this case, the Washington Post) set the narrative.

New York Magazine excerpted several tweets from conservatives declaring themselves “former Cain supporters”. Cain is “capitalizing”, looking to damage his competition through lazy accusations of racism. Not only that, but the oblivious Cain is allowing himself to become a stooge for the lamestream media!

I continue to hope that conservatives will develop greater awareness of how they sound outside the bubble. Here we have Herman Cain abruptly attacked by the Tea Party movement he himself had absolved of racism for describing a public display of the n-word on a candidate’s property as “insensitive”.

What else would one call it? Cain took the precaution to state that he was not judging Perry personally and that he reaction was condition on the story proving accurate.

Yet for this mild expression of a feeling universal to all Black people, we can tear up his ticket on the Tea Party Express. Yesterday Cain heard the chorus and walked back his remarks:

While speaking to reporters outside of a meeting with Donald Trump on Monday, Republican presidential contender Herman Cain dialed back his criticism of Rick Perry over his family’s use of a hunting camp named “Niggerhead.”

“I really don’t care about that word. They painted over it,” he said, referring to a sign painted on a rock at the property the Texas Governor once leased. The Washington Post first reported Sunday that the slur appeared on the hunting grounds’ gated entrance.

Move along folks, nothing to see here–and far be it from Herman Cain to suggest otherwise.

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  • ottovbvs

    Herman Cain apparently knows his place in today’s Republican party.

  • Victoria Rowels

    What’s In A Name?
    Copyright by Victoria Rowels ©1983, 2011

    What’s in a name? The young student asked.
    And why is the future connected to the past?
    And why does that word that starts with a “N”,
    Incite violence in the most peaceful of men?

    The teacher looked perplexed and didn’t know where to begin,
    To explain that word that starts with a “N”.
    The dictionary seemed like a good place to start,
    But it didn’t even touch upon the most important part.

    How can a volume designed to define,
    Words and phrases formed in the mind,
    Give meaning to and take apart,
    A concept of hate formed in the heart:

    Of men who deny the humanity,
    Of darker hued people who look like me.

    Of men who believe that their lack of melanin,
    Makes them pure and incapable of sin.

    Of men who prayed and held Bibles in their hand,
    While they raped and pillaged humanity’s motherland.

    Of men who built empires, fortunes and fame,
    By promoting a concept we mistakenly call: “a name”.

    What’s in a name? The teacher asked.
    And why is the future connected to the past?
    And why does that word that starts with a “ N”.
    Incite violence in the most peaceful of men?

    The student tried to answer but he was a little confused.
    So he stopped in mid-sentence and asked to be excused.
    The teacher asked the student why he suddenly had to go.
    At first the student looked down and said: “I don’t know”.
    Then the student decided to reveal his newly made plans,
    To go and study the history of all hue-mans.

    What’s in a name?

  • zaybu

    It’s a fundamental fact that if you’re running as a Republican in any election, you must first consult on any issue Rush Limbaugh and make sure you have his approval. Otherwise, you’re dead meat.

    Poor Cain who had to learn this lesson the hard way.

    • jakester

      Got that right! He is the lord master. But let’s switch subjects and talk about Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann. After all, they are the puppet masters, along with Soros, of the whole Democratic Party.

      • drcme

        Olbermann, Moore, and Soros run the Democratic party??? You’re kidding, right?

      • think4yourself

        Keith who?

      • Velocity

        Both sides have their share of buffoons. But unlike conservatives, we on the left generally don’t take our buffoons seriously nor pay them much attention.

        Conservatives often like to mock liberals for not having a lefty equivalent with the popularity and influence of a Rush Limbaugh, not realizing that it’s something we’re quite proud of.

  • Fart Carbuncle

    I guess if I keep complaining about the obvious left-wing bias of this forum, the obvious replies will be “then leave”, lol.

    But this article solidifies my point. Barbara Walters was schooled yesterday by her black hostess friends that, as a white person, she could not say the n-word. Yet here, in bold blue large font, an article to demean conservatives like Mr. Cain.

    Seriously?

    • medinnus

      Clearly, you didn’t actually read the article. Try again. Its a hit piece on Limbaugh, and not Cain – and how all of the GOP cower before the disapproval of their Lord and Master.

    • CautiousProgressive

      This article is actually very respectful of Mr. Cain, and is very far from a left-wing piece.

    • LauraNo

      When Frum says, “building a conservatism that can win again” he actually means getting the republicans to win again and he thinks the way to do that is not to nominate candidates like Perry and Bachman. Many people agree with that, that doesn’t mean he or this site have a “left-wing bias”. Objecting to right-wing extremism does not make someone a lefty, although they also object to it.

    • nuser

      Did you even read the article ?

  • queenodnile

    Nice poem, Victoria Rowels.

  • Bulldoglover100

    Mr. Cain was correct.. and while it may pain me to say so because I don’t like the man, he was correct.
    The proof is pretty much in if people are willing to believe that soooo many people who live in the area of the hunting lodge are correct because they say the sign was up for years after the Perry’s use and ownership was established. Perry has a problem on his hands and the sign issue is just one when it comes to racism. More comments and his protection of those found to be racist in his admin. in Texas are now coming to light. Perry is toast as is Cain so I am not all together unhappy with the cannibalism going on between them.
    As far as Left Wing bias? I am a moderate Republican who is ashamed of the crop of idiots we have running at this time. The only one I would vote for today would be Huntsman. The others all remind me of characters out of The Wizard of Oz.

    • PracticalGirl

      A decent point, but I’m going to keep correcting the falsehood of statements like:

      “…after the Perry’s use and ownership was established.”

      Part of the reason this became a “story”, that so many accept as fact that Perry and family are racists, is that the public doesn’t seem to understand what a “hunting lease” is in Texas. It’s a temporary agreement. You’re there for a short time. This isn’t a “home”, you don’t cross the threshold day in, day out. The Perry family did not OWN this property at any time. They leased it for the right to kill things for a designated period of time each year. From a standard hunting lease in Texas:

      “Lessee shall use the premises for: __________________________________________________ (Write in hunting, camping, picnicking or whatever is allowed.) purposes only. Lessee may not cut or damage trees, crops, roads or dwellings, fences, buildings or other property on the land.”

      Further:

      “The lessee may post signs at his own expense. Text and size of such signs is to be approved by the lessor. When placing signs lessee may not drive nails into trees or buildings. (Signs should not be offensive or create an eyesore. Lessee may not drive nails or other metal objects into trees for building deer stands or any other purpose.”

      http://www.weblinkfirst.com/huntagr1.htm

      So-anybody who secured this lease before the Perry’s could post a sign, yet this one would have been counter to the lease. But whose responsibility was it to get rid of the offending name?

      Face it folks: DSP (below) is at least partially correct. This was yet another opportunity for the media to fill time in a 24 hour news cycle. While I’m sorry that the term existed, please look below (link to the Daily Show) for some examples of how relatively common this is in the US.

      • Frumplestiltskin

        I don’t buy the lease excuse, have you ever rented? Would you keep a doormat that says “N%ggers stay away” just because it was not your house? Or would you not say, I will consider renting if you allow me to get rid of this doormat? This all hinges on if they painted over it at the start or if Perry is lying. If a digital picture shows up from around cerca 2005, then Perry is toast because he would have baldfaced lied, if no picture turns up to prove this, then he should be presumed not guilty.

        • Chris Balsz

          I’d like to see some kind of photograph at all….is West Texas somehow more remote than Afghanistan?

        • Bulldoglover100

          Chris… it truly is like a different country in many ways. They also do not adhere to all of the rules/regulations that other states enforce because at one time they were their own country.
          Perry talks about jobs in Texas.. yet the majority of those over the last couple of years are ones that do not even pay at minimum wage or are cash jobs for yard or picking work. Perry touts no State tax yet the property tax are out of this world in many areas. Many small towns in Texas suffer from 38 to 56% poverty levels. Perry whined about the Stimulus yet Texas is one of the largest recipients of federal dollars in our country. They are at this time rewriting History books to fit the Conservative view point and while as a Christian that makes me happy I am intelligent enough to know that you cannot force feed religion to people.

        • PracticalGirl

          Frumple-

          Um, yes, I’ve rented temporary vacation homes. Would I remove a sign that said “Stay away, niggers?” Sure…For the time that I was there, and then I’d put it back. I also used to go on a yearly basketball trip…”To the Indians” or “Up to the Res” as it was described, and the coach and school-sponsored slogan was “Scalp Em!” We made signs, we decorated the bus and we rolled into town with it all on display. We were greeted with “White Man Stands No Chance” and (not surprisingly) “Scalp ‘Em!” signs. We’re the adults involved racists? I have no idea, but I do know this was a decades-old tradition that nobody batted an eye at. Was it wrong on it’s face? You bet, but I never said anything as it was all accepted during the era of the late 70′s and early 80s. Does that make me a racist, Indian-hater? No, but I’m sure never gonna run for President…There is art, see…

      • Bulldoglover100

        Practical Girl…..don’t assume the limits of your knowledge represent the limits of others’. I live in Texas. I know about the stories as opposed to the facts regarding this situation and others… it is not unknown to many who have lived in Texas for years.
        Try talking to those who DO live in that area… other journalist have and more and more examples are coming to light… try educating yourself beyond just the blogs that agree with your opinion and you just might learn something.

        • PracticalGirl

          Actually, I don’t go to “blogs that agree with me”, and I always assume the limitations of my knowledge. Opinion? That’s something entirely different, and my opinion is that this is a trumped-up controversy, trying to peg Perry with a nontroversy from 30 years ago.

  • Southern Populist

    If Cain wanted to speak out on this matter, he should have issued his own statement. Instead, he allowed Christiane Amanpour to use him to stir the pot. Cain at least had the good sense to back away once he realized the media was taking advantage of him.

    - DSP

    • Watusie

      WTF? What possible difference could that have made? The idea that you see this as being all about Christiane Amanpour causing trouble in mind-boggling.

      • icarusr

        It’s gotcha politics, don’t you see? The fact that Palin could not name a single newspaper she read was blamed on Couric, not on her own abject ignorance. That Bachmann fails grade 5 civics, history and georgraphy is blamed on the media reporting it, rather than on her own idiocy.

        When you have a political party actually take issue with volcano monitoring in a response to a Presidential State of the Union address, you know that this is not a serious political party. It’s a circus parading as a government in waiting. And inside the tent, you blame the audience, rather than fire the clowns.

        • nuser

          Bachman and Palin have made a living spewing hatred, innuendos ,insinuations and outright
          lies. The media was only too happy to play along!

  • PracticalGirl

    Did anybody see The Daily Show last night? Leave it to the Best FU**ING producing team on television to point out (in 3 minutes) why the Perry story wasn’t exactly “news” nor unique here in the USA. Funny and instructive as hell.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/

    • Banty

      Speaking from upstate New York (but not that far upstate), um, yeah. Hilarious – thanks for posting this (I couldn’t stay up that late last night). This kind of thing is why I love Daily Show. They’re left-leaning to be sure, but they’re not in anyone’s pocket either.

      I actually agree with jdbennet that there is an aspect of the Southern strategy in this, but growing up largely in Texas, then living most of my adult life in New York (city and state), there’s this hypocrisy about racism and racist expression which can be kinda astounding. (Like how they’ll tell you southern whites not welcoming a Black neighbor is reprehensible, even though they’d face ostracism and be called “n—- lovers’ and worse, but their parents’ having moved out the year a Black family moves to their block is just a matter of financial survival….)

      When we add in all the references to First Nations and native Americans, that are derogatory, or at least bungled and mungled, we have hardly a place name that isn’t a bit, um tainted if we get so extremely critical about it.

      The land was *leased*, there’s a hesitancy about mucking around too much with what’s on some *else’s* land that’s not related to its agree use (hunting), nonetheless the rock was painted over, decades ago, there’s examples of this kind of thing all over the country. There are a lot more substantive things to talk about.

    • Bulldoglover100

      Actually Practical Girl… he said allot more than your alluding to…:

      “This is crazy. I’m not saying Perry was going to win the African-American vote anyway, but Perry better have a good explanation for this.” – Jon Stewart http://on.cc.com/nrqqcm

      • PracticalGirl

        This was in the video, yes? Did I really have to allude to what else a left wing satirist had to say about a right wing political candidate, or are you just determined to pick a bone with me today?

        And BTW: I live in Texas, too, and the people I have asked about these leases completely shrug their shoulders over the whole “controversy”- and that’s even liberals who don’t dig Perry but looooovvvveeee to hunt.

  • jg bennet

    Bob Herbert, a New York Times columnist, reported a 1981 interview with Lee Atwater, published in Southern Politics in the 1990s by Alexander P. Lamis, in which Lee Atwater discussed politics in the South:

    You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

    And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger”

    RUSH is old school bigot GOP

    • Chris Balsz

      Funny how this latent racism comes and goes — it clearly drove those states to vote for Reagan and HW Bush, it somehow went away for two Clinton victories, then came roaring back in time to elect W Bush twice.

      • jg bennet

        It is all about strategy

        In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections in Southern states by exploiting anti-African American racism and fears of lawlessness among Southern white voters and appealing to fears of growing federal power in social and economic matters (generally lumped under the concept of states rights). Though the “Solid South” had been a longtime Democratic Party stronghold due to the Democratic Party’s defense of slavery prior to the American Civil War and segregation for a century thereafter, many white Southern Democrats stopped supporting the party following the civil rights plank of the Democratic campaign in 1948 (triggering the Dixicrats), the African-American Civil Rights Movement, the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, and desegregation.

        The strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon in the late 1960s and continued through the latter decades of the 20th century under presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush.

        The strategy was successful in some regards. It contributed to the electoral realignment of Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than 90 percent of black voters to the Democratic Party. As the 20th century came to a close, the Republican Party began trying to appeal again to black voters, though with little success.

        ****During the 2000s decade, Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized for his party’s use of the Southern Strategy in the previous century. Michael Steele served as the party’s first African-American chairman from January 2009-January 2011.****

        It aint a myth and Rush is a southern strategy junkie

        Nixon also ushered in neoliberalism, he was a bad dude and the GOP is still running his very un republican program.

      • ottovbvs

        “Funny how this latent racism comes and goes”

        Balsz manages two errors in only eight words. A record? It neither goes nor is it funny.

      • Watusie

        Balsz, are you really pretending that all 50 states went for Clinton both times?

        • Chris Balsz

          My reply links to websites with electoral maps so it is awaiting moderation.

        • Watusie

          I’m sure. In the meantime, 16 states that went against Clinton both times:

          Alabama
          Alaska
          Idaho
          Indiana
          Kansas
          Mississippi
          Nebraska
          North Carolina
          North Dakota
          Oklahoma
          South Carolina
          South Dakota
          Texas
          Utah
          Virginia
          Wyoming

        • Chris Balsz

          OK since you won’t wait for the moderators

          Why did states in the “solid south” vote for Clinton? Did they decide holding down minorities didn’t matter in ’92 and ’96? Or are you insinuating something about Clinton?

          Why did the “solid south” vote Republicans for President, while electing Democrats for Senate, Congress and governor? Did they trust W to restrain Jack Webb, Mark Warner and Mary Landrieu’s coziness with the unspeakable Dark Peril? Or…are you insinuating something about downticket Democrats and their appeal to troglodytes?

          Or is it at all possible that your Presidential candidates since 1968 have sucked?
          I think that’s it, since you never mention the “solid south” to explain Democrat VICTORIES. The conspiracy only covers your losses.

        • Watusie

          OK, so it is already established that you bizarrely believe that Lee Atwater lied in his near-deathbed confessions. OK, fine, whatever. Now you want me to explain why racist dogwhistles didn’t prevent a white Southerner from winning his home state and one or two others? Sorry, life is too short.

  • IntelliWriter

    According to Cain, blacks have been brainwashed into voting for Democrats. He walked that back and said that they actually do think for themselves.

    In this case, he seems to have been brainwashed into thinking that he must agree with Limbaugh and the Tea Party Republibaggers rather than the history of blacks in this country, of which he is a part.

    • jg bennet

      Herbert also wrote in the same column, “The truth is that there was very little that was subconscious about the G.O.P.’s relentless appeal to racist whites. Tired of losing elections, it saw an opportunity to renew itself by opening its arms wide to white voters who could never forgive the Democratic Party for its support of civil rights and voting rights for blacks

      Southerners have been brainwashed to vote GOP since the party morphed into the Dixie party after Reagan. Those Reagan Democrats were the nails in the Grand Ole Party’s coffin and after Reagan it was 1854 all over again but this time it was the GOP screaming the coded N-word not the Dems. Remember the Republican party was created in 1854 to destroy the Dixie way and today it is DIXIE all the way.

      HOW THE SOUTH FINALLY WON THE WAR
      http://www.denverpost.com/quillen/ci_17850612

      • Chris Balsz

        Why do they elect Democrats for Governor and Senator and Congress in the same elections that deliver Republican presidents?

        If Reagan beat Mondale in Tennesee because of racism, why was Al Gore elected? And Richard Gephardt in Missouri?

        • SpartacusIsNotDead

          How would the election of Gore and Gephardt prove racism was not a factor? Gore and Gephardt are both white.

        • Chris Balsz

          So was Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, and John Kerry.

          It seems odd to say “of course Reagan and the Bushes won so many states –the GOP panders to the racism of voters” when those same voters, millions of them, voted for a Republican President, and seconds later, voted for a Senator, Governor, Congressman from the party of tolerance and love.

  • zahnartz62

    I put Rush in the “Fat,White, Asshole” group. Will that offend? He is a wonderful propagandist, however..they are easy to identify as they never allow dissent, discussion, or contrary opinions. The American propaganda machine would make Josef Goebbels proud and Rush is just another “Lord Haw Haw”! I never listen to them myself but rely on Frum to tell me about Rush, Glen, O’Reilly, et al.

    • icarusr

      Hey Doc, arschlochs the world over are trembling in rage at the comparison.

    • think4yourself

      Zahnarts – given the fact that you identified Rush with Goebbels, I’m guessing that you, Rush and Hank Williams, Jr. won’t be on ESPN anytime soon.

      I’m not a Hermain Cain fan. But, I think his low-key comments regarding this rock were fine (I also don’t think this is in any way an important issue to judge Rick Perry by). I also think his walk-back of saying that he thinks this conversation should go away and we ought to be speaking about jobs is spot on as well.

      While the Perry family continuing to lease land with that name is in not smart for a politician in this world of extreme opposition research, the reality is this is much ado about little.

  • icarusr

    “I really don’t care about that word. They painted over it,”

    Those two sentences say so much …

    Of course, there was the “controversy” about Michelle Obama having referred to “whitey” or “honkey” or whatever. I wonder if anyone of the current apologists for Perry and Cain and Rush and Dopey and Dumbo would have said, “it’s just a word; look at the context.”

  • Dragonfly

    The place was called ___________, yet he still went there.

    Personally, I wouldn’t go to a place by that name.

    Personally, I would never vote for a person who went to any place called by that name.

    Now, you can say that names like that place are/were acceptable – the norm there – and he didn’t do anything over and above the norm, but…………… that stuff is not for America.

    Perry is a general election liability for the GOP.

  • lilmanny

    Mr Cain, you have been stung because your job is to convince people that there are no racists in the GOP. The racists are the liberals, as you have said in a number of ways. Stick to the script or begone with you. We can get Allen West at a fraction of the price.

    • Banty

      Yeah, lilmanny you have another Black, who needs this one you say :-/

      You illustrate this converse form of subtle racism which is part of the support, I think, behind Cain. (Not all of it, I see some genuine appeal he has and genuine support thereby.) “Hey, if we actually nominate a Black guy who thinks like us, we got ‘them’ beat!”

  • Chris Balsz

    Clearly Limbaugh criticized Cain for being upset AT PERRY, not for being upset by that term.

    • Dragonfly

      I agree with that – it seems no matter what Perry does or says some out there are sticking with their good old boy.

      I thinks some of what Rush says is spot on, and some not so. re: Rush on liking Perry – he’s way off.

      It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Perry is a major liability for the GOP with him being in the national spotlight.

      Sometimes I wonder if he’s still working for Al Gore.

      • ottovbvs

        Dragonfly concern trolls for Romney.

        • Dragonfly

          Sure, I’m for Romney – he’s the most qualified for the job on both sides of the aisle.

          Obama has done a terrible job and needs to go.

          Perry – he’s a major liability for the GOP being in the national spotlight.

        • SteveT

          He’s allowed to have his candidate.

  • Jay

    The scary part is how much sway a performer like Limbaugh has over the GOP these days.

  • Southern Populist

    It is no secret that Karl Rove and others in the Texas elite hate Rick Perry. I bet Karl Rove or someone aligned with him was involved in feeding this information to the Washington Post. They did cite five or six anonymous sources in the original story.

    The Washington Post ought to explain how it is they thought to check out a very obscure piece of land in west Texas in the first place. The west Texas locals certainly don’t have enough pull to get the Washington Post to look into something.

    - DSP

    • Banty

      “The west Texas locals certainly don’t have enough pull to get the Washington Post to look into something.”

      The Washington Posts needs “pull”??

      I wager they smelled a story, and went after the story. Occam’s Razor.

      Now, I think this will blow over (*this* will; Perry has other problems), but let’s not get all silly over conspiracy theories about how what the Washington Post decides to look into.

      • Southern Populist

        I wager they smelled a story, and went after the story.”

        The question is who put them on to the story in the first place.

        How do you think the Washington Post, a publication based in Washington DC, came to launch an investigation into a rock on an obscure piece of land in west Texas 30 years ago?

        - DSP

        • ottovbvs

          DSP is apparently shocked….shocked….that Rove would stab anyone in the back.

        • Banty

          Maybe they picked it up from there …
          Oh goodness how could that be? The Washington Post? Karl Rove?
          They look into it, turn up the facts, that’s it.

        • think4yourself

          :)

        • Banty

          I don’t know – it could be anything from, someone from the area works for them (look up Molly Ivin’s career), to they picked it up from the blogosphere. It’s their JOB to look into stuff.

          They report on happenings in Dushanbe, in Waziristan – what is your schtick about them poking around in Throckmorton county?

        • Velocity

          “The question is who put them on to the story in the first place.”

          Who cares who put them on the story? How does that matter in the least? Doesn’t change the fact that the story exists at all.

          Let’s say the NY Times ran a story about how the Obama’s once rented a lodge in Kenya called “Honkyhead” – would it matter one iota to you who tipped them off to the story? Somehow I doubt it.

        • think4yourself

          @ Velocity. Sure it matters. Kind of like the Citizens United, campaign disclosure article elsewhere on this site. Stories don’t exist in a vacuum, context helps explain the meaning behind them.

          As an example you, used an example about Obama & Kenya. I’m waiting for someone trolling the internet to pick up your false example, publish it on Drudge, Redstate, then it goes to Fox and eventually it must be true.

        • ottovbvs

          “Sure it matters.”

          Are you kidding. This sort of story planting is the daily currency of politics.

  • Graychin

    Texas hunting leases are very, very different from multi-million dollar second, third and fourth homes ala Mitt Romney. Those leases being what they are, Perry’s association with the foul sign is very remote and the knock on Perry about it is overblown. That said, there is still plenty to see here.

    Boss Limbaugh calls the tune in today’s Republican Party. He is THE opinion leader of the party. Not O’Reilly. Not Hannity. Not Roger Ailes. Certainly not David Frum – Mr. Frum is far too sane. And Limbaugh never misses a chance to put his toe over the line in winking at overt racism.

    Limbaugh is a mere entertainer, and under normal circumstances his racially-tinged bloviating would be of no consequence. I would like to think that if we all ignore him he would just go away. But we would do that at our peril.

    Therefore, the fallout from N*g**rhead-gate will fall most heavily on Herman Cain. Because Rush says so.

    • rbottoms

      At some point all black Conservatives face a choice, anger the poor little dears convinced of their colorblindness or speak out. Herman decided to be a House Negro, no surprise there.

      • Chris Balsz

        So long as you guys promote the idea of blacks cooperating with white people as racially controversial, then you limit the attraction of cooperating with blacks, to white people. If Cain is another dumbass Republican, why bring a racial angle to it?

        • rbottoms

          How is it you read what isn’t written? Conservatives read blacks despise the GOP but it translates in their head that they hate white people.

          Herman Cain is a House Negro to the Republican Party.

        • Chris Balsz

          Yeah, how could anybody resent hearing you throw racial slurs at a black man?

        • nuser

          It used to be called Token Negro!

        • think4yourself

          Sorry RB, I’m with Balz on this one.

          Just because you don’t like Cain’s politics, doesn’t make him a “House Negro” (or to be accurate, you can exchange that other “N” word to say what you’re really saying).

          You are engaging in the same kinds of slurs and innuendo’s that Liberals routinely accuse Conservatives of, with the same amount of justification.

          Cain’s a GOP Conservative. That doesn’t make him a house nigger (my apologies, but the offensive term is the correct one in this context), or an Uncle Tom. Neither for that matter is Clarence Thomas. He is someone who’s policies you disagree with as to most African-Americans. For that matter, many in the Black community called Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom for his comments that African-Americans ought to work harder to be a part of the existing upward mobile (read white), structure. We’re talking Bill Cosby, one of the original breakers of racial barriers.

        • rbottoms

          Tell you what, once you’ve been black for 56 years you tell me what I should think as a black man.

          And I happen to think Bill Cosby is right.

          And Herman Cain is a House Negro for the GOP.

        • Banty

          “Tell you what, once you’ve been black for 56 years you tell me what I should think as a black man.”

          Tell you what, I don’t have to have been black for 56 years to tell you that you think as *yourself*.

          Nobody’s telling you what to think at all. Let alone what to think “as a black man” good grief.

        • rbottoms

          Now you may ask what makes Herman Cain a House Negro?

          Is it working with white people?

          Of course not, there are about 200 million of you, citizens just like us, though a lot of you are pretty stupid since several million of you believe Obama was born in Kenya.

          Cain is a House Negro for kissing Rush Limbaugh’s ass on behalf of the GOP.

      • Banty

        “At some point all black Conservatives face a choice, anger the poor little dears convinced of their colorblindness or speak out. Herman decided to be a House Negro, no surprise there.”

        Or maybe but maybe he’s convinced it’s not that big a deal. Perry did respond to him about this in a fairly considered way, after all.

        I think I can confidently surmise that Herman Cain has seen his share of racism, as a successful Black man, from both Blacks and Whites. I do think some of the support going his way is of the “House Negro” nature, but I am not going to decide HE is a House Negro, at least not based on any of this. And certainly not just because he’s a Black conservative.

  • ottovbvs

    “It is no secret that Karl Rove and others in the Texas elite hate Rick Perry”

    Karl Rove play dirty tricks. How could anyone suggest such a thing. Yesterday Kerry and Plame. Today Rick Perry. Kerry…Perry…Plame….Cain….maybe he got the names mixed up.

    • Chris Balsz

      They say Rupert Murdoch is smart, but he could replace Karl Rove with a sock puppet that says “My clients are awesome!”, for half the money. Yet, he keeps paying Rove for analysis.

      • ottovbvs

        Unfortunately Balsz you’re too naive (or something else) to realise Rove’s gig is just payola for all the dirt he passed over to Murdoch when he was in the Bush White House.

        • Chris Balsz

          That seems implausible, since it would have Murdoch paying out of gratitude.

        • ottovbvs

          “That seems implausible,”

          Gawd Balsz I wonder how you tie your shoe laces in the morning. It’s called you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. Gratitude is wholly absent, it’s purely a business transaction.

        • Chris Balsz

          Except Murdoch still has his network, no matter what, so, people are going to make deals with him even if he blows off Rove as a no-longer-useful git. What can Rove do, he already delivered “the dirt” didn’t he? He can’t take it back.

        • ottovbvs

          “people are going to make deals with him even if he blows off Rove as a no-longer-useful git…He can’t take it back.”

          Gawd Balsz, only you would be dim enough to think Rove a no-longer useful git. Rove is still a major player in Republican politics as even someone as dim as DSP realizes. Do you actually have shoelaces or do you use those little velcro things?

  • rbottoms

    Republicans are desperate to not admit their parents and grandparents were racists and that the artifacts of that racism continue to bubble up to the surface.

    I don’t give a sh*t whether Rick Perry is a racist or has ever said some insensitive thing to some random black guy. I care that the GOP insists on rewriting history to make themselves the victim and to absolve themselves of blame.

  • armstp

    What is interesting is that Republicans like Limbaugh have gone absolutely ape shit for Cain pulling the race card on Perry, but they say absolutely nothing about Cain pulling the race card against Democrats, when Cain made his comments about blacks voting for Democrats.

    As always, Republicans are hypocrites!

    I could only imagine what Republicans would be saying if Obama had once owned a farm called “whiteyhead” or “crackerhead”. Christ, they went absolute bonkers on his wife for the made-up and non-existant “whitey tapes”.

  • nwahs

    And here I was thinking the “GOP” would support a black guy through thick and thin.

    Surely its his fault for getting uppity ( that’s sarcasm).

    It doesn’t take long for the sheep skin to fall off the wolf ( that’s not sarcasm).

  • Rob_654

    Cain doesn’t really think that people like Rush and much of the current conservative movement actually see him as an equal does he?

  • MSheridan

    Were he a politician living outside of the South, it’d be different, but I don’t think very much the worse of Perry for this piece of personal history. I don’t need to anyway–I’ve got plenty of other reasons to think he’d be a disaster. He can’t be completely honest about it, because he’d be implicating too many other people. He probably could have said, “That property was leased for hunting and we didn’t have the legal right to change the sign but eventually did anyway because we didn’t like it. We leased from a bigot because it was impossible to live in Texas and not do business with them. Also, at the time, offensive racial slurs were so common that my family and I were desensitized. I’d like to think both the state and my family have made a lot of progress since then.”

    Had he made a statement like that, I imagine it would have had a relatively closer approach to the truth and have been less controversial. Except in Texas. Texans would crucify him for saying anything of the sort. That state is in the running for having the very worst history on race in the Union, and its citizens, by and large, don’t like anything that challenges the Texas mystique. Things change, though. The demographic changes in the country as a whole are impacting Texas first. It may be that a browner future Texas will have less compunction about accurately remembering certain parts of its past.

  • JohnMcC

    I’m not much attracted to this story because ‘nigger’ was once a commonly used word and the names of things tend to cling for years after common usage has changed. Here in FL we have recently quit calling a particular fish a “Jewfish”; it is instead a “Goliath Gouper”. This has not changed the name of “Jewfish Key” however. Similarly, Andrew Sullivan this morning has a very long list of things called “niggerhead” and similar. There are ‘niggerhead corals’ and ‘niggerhead shimp’ (with a picture!) and ‘niggerhead cactus’. One I recalled is that brazil nuts were called ‘niggertoes’ when I was a boy in AL and no one thought it was derogatory to a race. Und zo weider.

    What’s interesting is the reaction to the Name On The Rock. Cain. Limbaugh. Blame the MSM. On and on. Thinking of the long run, it’s probably encouraging that the once-common word has become such a strong poison.

    Because it’s perfectly clear, really: There are no racists in America. None. And if there were, they would absolutely not be conservatives. Oh God, no. And if by some small chance there were racist conservatives, they would totally and completely NOT be from a state that once was part of the Confederacy. How could we think otherwise?

  • Sinan

    So lets go back in time a bit. It’s the early 1980s and Perry’s old man is looking for land to lease so he can hunt on it. He finds this place and it’s called Niggerhead. He checks it out, buys the lease and comes home to his family saying he just leased this great place with tons of big bucks, lots of pigs, dove, quail and a few pheasant. What’s it called Dad? Niggerhead. Now if you believe Perry then his dad must have used a different name for it right off the bat because none of them wanted to take hunting vacations every year at a place called Niggerhead. Here is a debate question for Perry: What was the family name for the ranch after Niggerhead?

    • Watusie

      Lets imagine the Obamas were in the habit of taking a one week vacation every year. In the days before teh Interwebs, they booked it through their local travel agent, who offered a nice discount flight/hotel package for Manhattan which she marketed as “the Hymietown Getaway”. Lets say the Obamas purchased this for several years running. Would Limbaugh now be saying “that’s OK, they didn’t pick the name”?

      • Chris Balsz

        I’m guessing he’d have slept through that speech.

        • ottovbvs

          “I’m guessing he’d have slept through that speech.”

          Well you’ve already demonstrated your naivete on this thread Balsz. You don’t think Limbaugh listens to all these speeches do you? He has RESEARCHERS. Ever heard of them.

        • Chris Balsz

          He slept through some of Rev. Wright’s sermons with similar language, didn’t he?

        • ottovbvs

          “He slept through some of Rev. Wright’s sermons with similar language, didn’t he?”

          Probably. They were incredibly boring.

      • Sinan

        Except in my case the scenario did happen, either they called it by it’s name or they changed it to something else. My bet is they did not say “I can’t wait to get back to the leased ranch this year”. What did they call it? Simple question. Then, when he answers it, interview his family members for corroboration.

        • Chris Balsz

          According to his campaign:

          ‘When Governor Perry was party to the hunting lease from 1997 to 2007, the property was described as northern pasture. He has not been to the property since 2006.’

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044412/Rick-Perry-family-hunting-camp-retreat-name.html

        • Watusie

          Linguistically implausible. Yes, when I lived on a farm, we had land we called the north pasture. Because it was north of the house, and our cows were on it. The idea that this subjective description would be useful to the outside world as a descriptor is pretty flimsy. Consider this:

          Good ol’ Boy: Whatch doin’ this weekend, Rick?
          Perry: Goin’ to northern pasture to do some huntin’.

          Doesn’t really have the ring of truth, does it?

          Also, consider the source of this information: Perry spokesman Ray Sullivan.

          Not buying it.

        • NotFooledTX

          Most likely they referred to it as the “deer lease” like most others who lease hunting property.

  • AllisonCay

    Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. He should remain as such. My goodness why does this man still even matter to my party?

    • ottovbvs

      “why does this man still even matter to my party?”

      Because it’s largely composed of people like you?

      • jakester

        Entertainer, in a sense true. But he is more like the gatekeeper of the GOP & conservatism in general that almost every con refers to as their primary source, like our favorite here Mark Levin.

    • nuser

      Sarah Palin just loves Limbaugh and his satire on retarded people!

  • think4yourself

    My question is did Limbaugh go after Cain because of Cain’s comments regarding Perry? Or did he really go after Cain because he beat Perry in the FL straw poll and has the closest thing to upward momentum of the GOP candidates.

    • MSheridan

      Now that is a good question! Pavlovian response to red meat, or cynical calculation to keep the “wrong” candidate from doing well?

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  • jakester

    What is hilarious is that the teadregs & the Cons love trotting out the racism of the old time Southern Democrats when someone accuses them of racism. Well, duh, isn’t that what Perry represents?

  • Kingofthenet

    Rush shouldn’t let Herman off that easy, make him come on the Show, and do a little singing number, something by Al Jolson perhaps?

  • anniemargret

    Did anyone just do an accidental drive-by with Limbaugh?

    I just did today and he was in the midst of a yelling firestorm, banging his fists and rattling pages of paper screaming about something. I was on my way to PBS but got in about 2 mins of his ranting. I couldn’t bypass it fast enough. He gives me a headache.

    One has to wonder if Rush Limbaugh had the capability to go head and head on national TV? I don’t think so.

  • rbottoms

    If Cain had told Limbaugh to go f*** himself, I still would never vote for him, since the GOP is insane, but I would at least respect him. Instead he peed the carpet like a nervous little lap dog. Screw that.

    • Dragonfly

      What’s truly insane was that people swallowed the ‘hope and change’ bs.

      Talk about buyer’s remorse – it will be quite some time before the majority of voters in this country vote for another Dem president.

      The Dems are so bad off right now they couldn’t even begin to think of a replacement for Obama – not even Hillary. I thought it might go that route, but…….. the Dems really did a number on the economy so bad that………… I don’t think Hillary wants to go down in history as a two-time loser.

  • Dragonfly

    LOL – now the NAACP is going after Perry for having defended confederate symbols displayed in a Texas Supreme Court.

    When the heck is the RNC Chairman going to pull his head out of his butt and have Perry disappear from the national spotlight?

    The GOP does not need this kind of stuff right now – there’s way too much at stake – the White House and 23 liberal Senate seats are up for grabs and Perry is being allowed to become the poster child for the party.

    • NotFooledTX

      This is what happens when folks fall in love with the idea of a candidate without properly researching the candidate. I knew this was going to happen, of course I live in TX and know about Perry – facts, not fantasy. I’m not even surprised at how long it took for him to take a nosedive. It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy or bigger phony.

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