Comments on: Krugman on Carbon

By: Ten observations about conservatives and climate change | Stand-Up Economist

Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:13:40 +0000

[...] of them do care. These include local folks like Todd Myers and national folks like Greg Mankiw, David Frum, and many [...]

By: The Kids This Christmas… They All Want A Carbon-Pricing Pony « Around The Sphere

Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:37:28 +0000

[...] David Frum at FrumForum: Democrats in Congress prefer cap-and-trade to a straightforward tax precisely because cap-and-trade is designed to be non-transparent. The hope, presumably, is that if the truth of what is being done is concealed, the voters will get less mad. [...]

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The Volokh Conspiracy » Blog Archive » Krugman v. Hansen — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:51:00 +0000

[...] to say, but other pending matters demand my attention. So here’s more from Reihan Salam and David Frum. And here’s a final thought from Andrew Sullivan: Krugman’s core point is political: cap and [...]

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:23 +0000

sunroof: Yes we do. It’s called foreign oil dependence and the coming age of peak oil, also known as the $75 fillup.
That’s a bad argument,
because one answer to dependence on Middle East oil is to pursue fossil fuels here in North America, such as coal and shale oil and oil from tar sands.

But coal and shale oil and oil from tar sands will continue to contribute to global warming.

No, we can’t finesse the global warming issue by pretending it’s really about dependence on Middle East oil or about creating “green” jobs (what would Mr. Bastiat have thought about that?). It’s really about preventing global warming, which means no longer pursuing fossil fuels, even the ones we have in North America.

By: Toddtheconservative

Toddtheconservative — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:43:57 +0000

The whole thing is apart of a sick ideology that is enslaving millions:

http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/12/ideology-is-the-bondage-of-slavery/

By: sunroof

sunroof — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:07:02 +0000

SFTor1 says : I can’t believe you people are buying the proposition that we have a carbon problem.

Yes we do. It’s called foreign oil dependence and the coming age of peak oil, also known as the $75 fillup.

The US needs a tax on carbon, especially gasoline, diesel, heating oil and jet fuel. Call it the Patriot Tax, set it at something on the order of 10-25 cents per gallon, and allocate half the amount to paying for the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and half towards debt reduction. Aggressively pursue alternative fuels, especially advanced energy storage technologies so that we can all generate our own solar power and re-charge our electric cars at night.

Yes, we have a carbon problem. It’s called Saudi Arabia.

By: SFTor1

SFTor1 — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:25:31 +0000

I can’t believe you people are buying the proposition that we have a carbon problem.

We don’t.

We have a pollution problem many places, and we need to address that. We have temperature fluctuations within a normal range—no need for alarm. CO2 is unable to raise temperatures more than it already has, and the natural feedbacks from water vapor and clouds have been shown to be negative.

The rest is religion.

By: whecht

whecht — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:59:05 +0000

I have been in favor of a carbon tax since 1979 when I talked to John Anderson about his idea to have a 50 cent gasoline tax and cut social security taxes in half.

I still think a carbon tax, instead of a gas tax, is a great idea as long as it is revenue neutral. My choice still is to cut the payroll tax to make it cheaper to hire workers.

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:13:34 +0000

Even some noted progressives are recoiling at the prospects for corruption and cheating implied by cap-and-trade.

Annie Leonard, progressive producer of the anti-consumerist video “The Story of Stuff,” has now produced “The Story of Cap and Trade.” In it, she explains how cap-and-trade is a license for polluters to cheat without reducing greenhouse gases significantly (as the Europeans, who were first with cap-and-trade, are now finding out the hard way):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA6FSy6EKrM

I continue to support a simple carbon tax as the best way to deal with greenhouse gases.

Milton Friedman’s solution to all pollution problems: Tax the pollution!

By: CTF

CTF — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:04:56 +0000

I could not agree more that the smartest course of action is to heed the advice of virtually ALL of the world’s leading scientists and economists who believe that a revenue-neutral carbon tax is the best solution to climate change.