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The Wall Street Journal reports that anti-mosque rhetoric is being used by Jihadists who want to undermine the image of the Untied States and turn more Muslims to their cause:
Islamic radicals are seizing on protests against a planned Islamic community center near Manhattan’s Ground Zero and anti-Muslim rhetoric elsewhere as a propaganda opportunity and are stepping up anti-U.S. chatter and threats on their websites.
One jihadist site vowed to conduct suicide bombings in Florida to avenge a threatened Koran burning, while others predicted an increase in terrorist recruits as a result of such actions.
“By Allah, the wars are heated and you Americans are the ones who…enflamed it,” says one such posting. “By Allah you will be the first to taste its flames.”
White House homeland security adviser John Brennan told reporters Friday that he had seen no evidence that the debate over the proposed Islamic center in Lower Manhattan, other mosque protests or the planned Koran burning had affected U.S. counterterrorism efforts.
A White House official on Sunday stressed that Mr. Brennan was addressing the narrow question of whether the debates in the U.S. over Islam were having an impact on U.S. counterterrorism efforts, and that Mr. Brennan specifically declined to address whether those debates were energizing the jihadists.
A U.S. official on Sunday said the administration was taking the upswing in anti-U.S. chatter seriously. “Terrorists like al-Qaeda and its violent allies are motivated already to try to attack the United States, but when it comes to propaganda, extremists are pure opportunists. They’ll use whatever they can,” the official said.
Many opponents of the planned Muslim community center say they have no bias against Muslims but that putting the building so close to Ground Zero shows an insensitivity toward the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Controversy over the community center, which will contain a mosque and other facilities, has helped fan anti-Muslim rhetoric in the U.S. far from Lower Manhattan in recent weeks.
Jarret Brachman, director of Cronus Global, a security consulting firm, and author of the book Global Jihadism, said al Qaeda and other groups have long used imagery from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to recruit new members. But the U.S. position has been that those wars are not against Islam and that the U.S. has Muslim allies in the fight.
Anti-Muslim rhetoric in the U.S is different, since jihadists can use Americans’ words to make the case that the U.S. is indeed at war with Islam. The violent postings are not just on al Qaeda-linked websites but on prominent, mainstream Muslim chat forums, Mr. Brachman said.
“We are handing al Qaeda a propaganda coup, an absolute propaganda coup,” with the Islamic-center controversy, said Evan Kohlmann, an independent terrorism consultant at Flashpoint Partners who monitors jihadist websites.
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Oh, as if those losers have any credibility, it’s more absurd than Beck talking about the racists and Nazis in Obama’s admin. So some Islamic dung heap place, where all the non Muslims have been driven out decades ago, is throwing a tizzy because some people in the USA don’t want a mosque close to the Twin Towers their heroes destroyed?
Oh, as if those losers have any credibility
Those “losers” have been able to fight the USA to a stalemate. They may not be bright, but they are motivated and they have lots of guns.
The dimwits screaming at Muslims in New York are firing up the very people trying to kill our soldiers in the field.
Nicely played a**holes.
“By Allah, the wars are heated and you Americans are the ones who…enflamed it,” says one such posting. “By Allah you will be the first to taste its flames.”
Bring it on, baby!
You want to escalate? We’ll elect a President in 2012 who will love to escalate.
You Muslims stage another 9-11 sized attack–you kill thousands of Americans again–and you can kiss Mecca goodbye. We’ll blow a hole right through it.
1. so let me get this straight…the protesters call a peaceful muslim a terrorist (he is a sufi muslim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPwz8FqxYI )
2. the protesters agree with the jihadists….. As adherents to Saudi-financed Wahhabism and the similar South Asian Deobandi form of Muslim fundamentalism, the terrorists have long proclaimed their hatred of the Sufis, whom they condemn for praying at the graves of Muslim saints. In the perverse ideology of the radicals, this traditional Islamic devotion represents a deviation from strict monotheism, and, allegedly, too closely resembles Christian worship of Jesus. http://www.islamicpluralism.org/1611/jihadists-v-sufis
3. the protesters are stirring up the jihadists and adding fuel to the fire. sufis are a firebreak from radical islam….forrest fire fighters fight fire with a fire firebreak which is a gap in vegetation or other combustible material that acts as a barrier to slow or stop the progress of a bushfire or wildfire…..
4. definition of the protesters….Ignorance is a state of being uninformed. The word “ignorant” is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware.
5. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.”
Albert Einstein
You want to escalate? We’ll elect a President in 2012 who will love to escalate.
What’s another 50,000 maimed and 6,000 dead?
I can bet you aren’t going over there to fight. Me, I did my time and unlike the GOP’s fire-breathing Chickenhawks I think saying bring it on to 1,000,000,000 people who have a tradition of fighting on a scale of centuries is beyond insane.
We’ll get tired of your third war just as we’ve grown tired of the other two we’ve thrown meanwhile our enemies now swollen by a factor of 100 will be quite comfortable living on rice and beans and living in the sand.
Forever.
If that’s what it takes.
Stupid. Foolish. Arrogant.
The modern GOP.
Sinz54,
The asshole of the GOP! Bring it fucking on for Gods sake. What the fuck do you have between the ears, jello?
rbottoms // Aug 24, 2010 at 8:51 am:
“The dimwits screaming at Muslims in New York are firing up the very people trying to kill our soldiers in the field”
jg bennet // Aug 24, 2010 at 9:06 am:
“the protesters are stirring up the jihadists and adding fuel to the fire”
Oh dear, let’s not do anything to antagonize the jihadists, they might attack us again…oh lordy, lordy. Let’s shut down free speech so we don’t bring on another attack. NO, I got it – let’s become Sharia compliant, then they won’t hate us anymore (wringing their hands).
rbottoms, thank you for your service in the armed forces.
Bring it on, baby!
You want to escalate? We’ll elect a President in 2012 who will love to escalate.
You Muslims stage another 9-11 sized attack–you kill thousands of Americans again–and you can kiss Mecca goodbye. We’ll blow a hole right through it.
Uh, you realize that that’s exactly what they want you to do, right? Hopefully fire up the American public so that we elect some warmonger who will lead us into battle, again, at a cost of 1.5 trillion dollars and counting, and 50,000 casualties (dead and wounded). Great, so you nuke Mecca, for all that’s going to do. You’ll kill a million innocent people, and have the other 1.199 billion ready to go to war with us. Those other 1.99b people will funnel money, weapons, support, logistics and knowledge to the terrorist groups, and we’ll be in for another decade of war which will finish the economic destruction that GWB started.
AWESOME PLAN!!!!
How about we lock all of you flag-waving lunatics and all of the terrorists jihadists in a huge room and let you fight it out. Stop involving me, my country, my tax dollars, and the innocent lives of our soldiers and civilians.
to the forum in general… why i enjoy being a citizen of frumtopia
“Difference of opinion leads to enquiry, and enquiry to truth; and that, I am sure, is the ultimate and sincere object of us both. We both value too much the freedom of opinion sanctioned by our Constitution, not to cherish its exercise even where in opposition to ourselves.” –Thomas Jefferson to P. H. Wendover, 1815.
“Nothing but good can result from an exchange of information and opinions between those whose circumstances and morals admit no doubt of the integrity of their views.” –Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1797.
“Truth between candid minds can never do harm.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1791.
“To those whose views are single and direct, it is a great comfort to have to do business with frank and honorable minds.” –Thomas Jefferson to Valentine de Foronda, 1809.
“In every country where man is free to think and to speak, differences of opinion will arise from difference of perception, and the imperfection of reason; but these differences when permitted, as in this happy country, to purify themselves by free discussion, are but as passing clouds overspreading our land transiently and leaving our horizon more bright and serene.” –Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Waring, 1801.
“I am myself an empiric in natural philosophy, suffering my faith to go no further than my facts. I am pleased, however, to see the efforts of hypothetical speculation, because by the collisions of different hypotheses, truth may be elicited and science advanced in the end.” –Thomas Jefferson to George P. Hopkins, 1822.
Why don’t we in the U.S. just admit that we do not hold certain beliefs as sacred as we like to pretend we do.
@jabbermule:
Thanks for providing an example of the stupidity that is involved here.
I’m not a Democrat, I have little-to-no respect for Democrats . . . but at this point I’d vote for a cinder block before I put such dangerous jackholes as the Far Right in charge of my country.
You be as insane as you want . . . but I will work tooth and nail to make sure you and yours do not control the reins.
busboy33 // Aug 24, 2010 at 3:37 pm:
“You be as insane as you want . . . but I will work tooth and nail to make sure you and yours do not control the reins.”
For example, you will work ‘tooth and nail’ to shut down free speech and the right to assembly so we don’t ‘offend’ people who murder in the name of religion?
You’re the insane one.
Are those my only two choices? Give an idiot like you control of my country, or Totalitarian Thought Control?
Even Sesame Street works with more realistic nuances than you do.