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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/ignore-hanks-and-watch-the-pacific/comment-page-1#comment-87201</link>
		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Independent // Mar 21, 2010 at 4:40 pm 

ottoBS opines: “… people have had too much of the real thing.”

&quot;Gee, I guess that explains why all the services continue to exceed recruiting benchmarks.&quot;

.......Independant......can&#039;t count and a master of the non sequitur.....do you know how many people enrol in the military each year and how many people watch tv or go to the movies.....there&#039;s a small, just a small, difference.....but I agree about the sanitized reporting.....if we&#039;d seen real blood we&#039;d have been out of Iraq after a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Independent // Mar 21, 2010 at 4:40 pm </p>
<p>ottoBS opines: “… people have had too much of the real thing.”</p>
<p>&#8220;Gee, I guess that explains why all the services continue to exceed recruiting benchmarks.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;.Independant&#8230;&#8230;can&#8217;t count and a master of the non sequitur&#8230;..do you know how many people enrol in the military each year and how many people watch tv or go to the movies&#8230;..there&#8217;s a small, just a small, difference&#8230;..but I agree about the sanitized reporting&#8230;..if we&#8217;d seen real blood we&#8217;d have been out of Iraq after a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ottoBS opines: &quot;... people have had too much of the real thing.&quot;

Gee, I guess that explains why all the services continue to exceed recruiting benchmarks.  I remember, not long ago, that farLeft trolls like you ottoBS were gleeful about changes some service groups made about lowering non-violent felony conviction standards... which, when investigated, proved to be pure rumor by the farLeft.

Why is it that farLeft trolls hate so much those who serve or those who battle America&#039;s enemies to Keep America Safe?  Contrary to what you might want to believe, ottoBS, people haven&#039;t even seen the real thing on nightly liberal newscasts --it&#039;s too dangerous for the war correspondents to get out and gather the story.  Daniel Pearl comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ottoBS opines: &#8220;&#8230; people have had too much of the real thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, I guess that explains why all the services continue to exceed recruiting benchmarks.  I remember, not long ago, that farLeft trolls like you ottoBS were gleeful about changes some service groups made about lowering non-violent felony conviction standards&#8230; which, when investigated, proved to be pure rumor by the farLeft.</p>
<p>Why is it that farLeft trolls hate so much those who serve or those who battle America&#8217;s enemies to Keep America Safe?  Contrary to what you might want to believe, ottoBS, people haven&#8217;t even seen the real thing on nightly liberal newscasts &#8211;it&#8217;s too dangerous for the war correspondents to get out and gather the story.  Daniel Pearl comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Carney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ottovbvs, Eastwood has spent decades groveling and apologizing, through his films, to the Hollywood Left establishment for his early career.  After humiliating himself sufficiently, they have seen fit to accept him back into respectability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ottovbvs, Eastwood has spent decades groveling and apologizing, through his films, to the Hollywood Left establishment for his early career.  After humiliating himself sufficiently, they have seen fit to accept him back into respectability.</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But we don’t have to forget Hanks’ stupid, irrelevant comments&quot;

.....Standard rightwing whining by Schaeffer and his camp followers .......Actually Clint Eastwood&#039;s two movies about the pacific war picked up on racist issues and you could hardly call him a Hollywood liberal.......I suspect the low viewership has little or nothing to do with Tom Hank&#039;s comments and more to do with the sun coming out and perhaps a declining interest in war movies generally......people  have had too much of the real thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But we don’t have to forget Hanks’ stupid, irrelevant comments&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;..Standard rightwing whining by Schaeffer and his camp followers &#8230;&#8230;.Actually Clint Eastwood&#8217;s two movies about the pacific war picked up on racist issues and you could hardly call him a Hollywood liberal&#8230;&#8230;.I suspect the low viewership has little or nothing to do with Tom Hank&#8217;s comments and more to do with the sun coming out and perhaps a declining interest in war movies generally&#8230;&#8230;people  have had too much of the real thing.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s another reason why viewers aren&#039;t that interested in &quot;Pacific.&quot;

The scenes of fighting in steaming jungles against an Asian enemy who used dirty tactics and tortured our men is subliminally reminding Americans of Vietnam--a war they would very much like to forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s another reason why viewers aren&#8217;t that interested in &#8220;Pacific.&#8221;</p>
<p>The scenes of fighting in steaming jungles against an Asian enemy who used dirty tactics and tortured our men is subliminally reminding Americans of Vietnam&#8211;a war they would very much like to forget.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BradS: &quot;So watch The Pacific.  Forget Tom Hanks’ remarks.  He is but another symptom of limousine liberalism.   Watch The Pacific because the men of Peleliu, Buna, Leyte, Iwo Jima, etc. deserve to be remembered.  Watch it because we could all stand to learn more about the other WWII.  And watch it, of course, because if the first episode is any indication, it is darned good television.&quot;

There is a false choice here --we can watch &quot;The Pacific&quot; for all the reasons outlined in your good article.

But we don&#039;t have to forget Hanks&#039; stupid, irrelevant comments.  Like with another limo liberal hatchet job on the truth --&quot;The Green Zone&quot;-- America can choose to deny the Hollywood elites their money and acclaim.  The marketplace should mean something; making political movies should have a consequence.  Just like elections.  Just like votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BradS: &#8220;So watch The Pacific.  Forget Tom Hanks’ remarks.  He is but another symptom of limousine liberalism.   Watch The Pacific because the men of Peleliu, Buna, Leyte, Iwo Jima, etc. deserve to be remembered.  Watch it because we could all stand to learn more about the other WWII.  And watch it, of course, because if the first episode is any indication, it is darned good television.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a false choice here &#8211;we can watch &#8220;The Pacific&#8221; for all the reasons outlined in your good article.</p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t have to forget Hanks&#8217; stupid, irrelevant comments.  Like with another limo liberal hatchet job on the truth &#8211;&#8221;The Green Zone&#8221;&#8211; America can choose to deny the Hollywood elites their money and acclaim.  The marketplace should mean something; making political movies should have a consequence.  Just like elections.  Just like votes.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Pointer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P1. Ten years is a long time and the cultural center of the country has changed. The connection to the greatest generation has long passed into memory. A serviceman born in 1923, seeing action in any theatre, would be 87 at this point. Both of my grandfathers have been dead for 15 years or more. 

P2. Fragmentation of audience and dvrs make ratings less important as you said. If the series stands up it will be a big seller on dvd for the holidays. 

P3. My grandfather fought in the Pacific and I have a larger connection to that part of the war than Europe. The cultural memory is skewed in the U.S. in a way that it wasn&#039;t during the war. The Japanese were the ones attacking us. That is where the war started for us. D day was an event long into the war and one that only gained prominence afterward. Besides, the Russians were already winning the European Theatre by June &#039;44. Americans would do well to learn how much the Russian&#039;s sacrificed. 

Hope to catch the next episode or maybe the DVDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P1. Ten years is a long time and the cultural center of the country has changed. The connection to the greatest generation has long passed into memory. A serviceman born in 1923, seeing action in any theatre, would be 87 at this point. Both of my grandfathers have been dead for 15 years or more. </p>
<p>P2. Fragmentation of audience and dvrs make ratings less important as you said. If the series stands up it will be a big seller on dvd for the holidays. </p>
<p>P3. My grandfather fought in the Pacific and I have a larger connection to that part of the war than Europe. The cultural memory is skewed in the U.S. in a way that it wasn&#8217;t during the war. The Japanese were the ones attacking us. That is where the war started for us. D day was an event long into the war and one that only gained prominence afterward. Besides, the Russians were already winning the European Theatre by June &#8216;44. Americans would do well to learn how much the Russian&#8217;s sacrificed. </p>
<p>Hope to catch the next episode or maybe the DVDs.</p>
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