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		<title>By: AbuAisha</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/hasan-jihadist-or-mental-case/comment-page-1#comment-289182</link>
		<dc:creator>AbuAisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 16:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add some comments to the present overall topic of  Terrorists and the actions of Maj Nidal Malik Hasan, and any other acts carried out in the the name of so called Islam.
Firstly, I want to say I am a Muslim and I consider my self to be a revert not a convert as muslims we feel we are born into the faith of the oneness of  GOD who&#039;s name in the arabic equivalent is ALLAH meaning a GOD which has no partners or associates.
To believe in all of the Prophets,  Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and a succession of many others with Muhammad being the last of them.
Also, to believe in all the books which were sent down to all the prophets the Torah, the Gospel, etc , of course we are at difference with the authenticity of the Bible in its entirety.
Now, after stating the basic principles which a muslim must believe in order to be a muslim I would like to begin my comments.
Anyone, whatever his or her position or title maybe must follow the tenets of Islam according to the way it was demonstrated to the mankind according to Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, and all the Prophets.
There is a authentic narration from among the things he said we call Hadith, these are the written explanation of what the Prophet (PBUH) said and did.
In one of these narrations he said &quot;Anything newly introduced to the religion is a innovation and every innovation is a misguidance and every misguidance will be in the hell fire.
After 20 years of being muslim I have found nothing documented in the sayings or the actions of the Prophet (PBUH) saying it is lawful to hurt, kill, or mame anyone who is not directly showing forms of aggression towards you.
In fact it is narrated that in the treaty of Hudybayyah, the treaty was broken by the Meccans and the companions of the Prophet  wanted to retaliate and fight but the Prophet said no, that the treaty must be honored.
Having traveled and lived abroad among muslims in a muslim country, what I find exists are frustrated people who are mislead due to the misdealings of the political agendas on the table at hand. 
Eloquent speakers utilize and capitalize on their frustrations and channel them in a path of deviance, misinterpeting and giving them misguidance instead of guidance.
As the saying goes every cause has a reaction and when a person is treated in a ill mannered way he or she doesnt like it, they want fair treatment and human rights.
I see wrong on both sides of the table, I see aggression on both sides we are not the policemen of the whole world, though I dont like to see people like the present leaders who  are Tyrants who torture and humiliate the people, and deny them the right to speakout openly when they are oppressed.
I am not for that either but I feel we dont need to go 8000 miles away to tell anyone to cut their grass and we have not cut our own.
Excuses as far as being harassed or  stigmatized and dealt with in a unfair manner I have a list of them,  nine  years FBI harassment, including a lie detector test, which I passed, job discrimination,
the list goes on.
But, at the end of the day it doesn&#039;t entitle me to go and hurt or mame or kill anyone that has done nothing to me, as far as the mistreatment I recieve, you have the example of Prophet Job PBUH.
My tests or hardship are nowhere near what he PBUH had to endure.
So, to summarize my expressions we have the right to collectively organize ourselves and speak out against any ill treatment or discriminations and if we dont get results we must be Patience and the one who sends the winds and the rains can change the situation when HE sees fit.
I would like to apologize if my post was a bit lengthly as I wanted to elaborate on some important points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add some comments to the present overall topic of  Terrorists and the actions of Maj Nidal Malik Hasan, and any other acts carried out in the the name of so called Islam.<br />
Firstly, I want to say I am a Muslim and I consider my self to be a revert not a convert as muslims we feel we are born into the faith of the oneness of  GOD who&#8217;s name in the arabic equivalent is ALLAH meaning a GOD which has no partners or associates.<br />
To believe in all of the Prophets,  Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and a succession of many others with Muhammad being the last of them.<br />
Also, to believe in all the books which were sent down to all the prophets the Torah, the Gospel, etc , of course we are at difference with the authenticity of the Bible in its entirety.<br />
Now, after stating the basic principles which a muslim must believe in order to be a muslim I would like to begin my comments.<br />
Anyone, whatever his or her position or title maybe must follow the tenets of Islam according to the way it was demonstrated to the mankind according to Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, and all the Prophets.<br />
There is a authentic narration from among the things he said we call Hadith, these are the written explanation of what the Prophet (PBUH) said and did.<br />
In one of these narrations he said &#8220;Anything newly introduced to the religion is a innovation and every innovation is a misguidance and every misguidance will be in the hell fire.<br />
After 20 years of being muslim I have found nothing documented in the sayings or the actions of the Prophet (PBUH) saying it is lawful to hurt, kill, or mame anyone who is not directly showing forms of aggression towards you.<br />
In fact it is narrated that in the treaty of Hudybayyah, the treaty was broken by the Meccans and the companions of the Prophet  wanted to retaliate and fight but the Prophet said no, that the treaty must be honored.<br />
Having traveled and lived abroad among muslims in a muslim country, what I find exists are frustrated people who are mislead due to the misdealings of the political agendas on the table at hand.<br />
Eloquent speakers utilize and capitalize on their frustrations and channel them in a path of deviance, misinterpeting and giving them misguidance instead of guidance.<br />
As the saying goes every cause has a reaction and when a person is treated in a ill mannered way he or she doesnt like it, they want fair treatment and human rights.<br />
I see wrong on both sides of the table, I see aggression on both sides we are not the policemen of the whole world, though I dont like to see people like the present leaders who  are Tyrants who torture and humiliate the people, and deny them the right to speakout openly when they are oppressed.<br />
I am not for that either but I feel we dont need to go 8000 miles away to tell anyone to cut their grass and we have not cut our own.<br />
Excuses as far as being harassed or  stigmatized and dealt with in a unfair manner I have a list of them,  nine  years FBI harassment, including a lie detector test, which I passed, job discrimination,<br />
the list goes on.<br />
But, at the end of the day it doesn&#8217;t entitle me to go and hurt or mame or kill anyone that has done nothing to me, as far as the mistreatment I recieve, you have the example of Prophet Job PBUH.<br />
My tests or hardship are nowhere near what he PBUH had to endure.<br />
So, to summarize my expressions we have the right to collectively organize ourselves and speak out against any ill treatment or discriminations and if we dont get results we must be Patience and the one who sends the winds and the rains can change the situation when HE sees fit.<br />
I would like to apologize if my post was a bit lengthly as I wanted to elaborate on some important points.</p>
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		<title>By: wrs10</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/hasan-jihadist-or-mental-case/comment-page-1#comment-71512</link>
		<dc:creator>wrs10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite  informative too:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6526030/Fort-Hood-gunman-had-told-US-military-colleagues-that-infidels-should-have-their-throats-cut.html
08 Nov 2009
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America&#039;s Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats. ........................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite  informative too:-<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6526030/Fort-Hood-gunman-had-told-US-military-colleagues-that-infidels-should-have-their-throats-cut.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6526030/Fort-Hood-gunman-had-told-US-military-colleagues-that-infidels-should-have-their-throats-cut.html</a><br />
08 Nov 2009<br />
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America&#8217;s Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JeninCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeninCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Once again, We failed to connect the dots.&quot;

With devastating consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Once again, We failed to connect the dots.&#8221;</p>
<p>With devastating consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This breaking news just about answers the question:

&lt;blockquote&gt; Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used &#039;Electronic Means&#039; to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS

Nov. 9, 2009 —

U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan&#039;s efforts.

CIA director Leon Panetta and the Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair, have been asked by Congress &quot;to preserve&quot; all documents and intelligence files that relate to Hasan, according to the lawmaker.

Hoekstra said he is &quot;absolutely furious&quot; that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan&#039;s attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Once again, 
We failed to connect the dots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This breaking news just about answers the question:</p>
<p> Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda<br />
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used &#8216;Electronic Means&#8217; to Connect with Terrorists<br />
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS</p>
<p>Nov. 9, 2009 —</p>
<p>U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.</p>
<p>It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.</p>
<p>Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan&#8217;s efforts.</p>
<p>CIA director Leon Panetta and the Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair, have been asked by Congress &#8220;to preserve&#8221; all documents and intelligence files that relate to Hasan, according to the lawmaker.</p>
<p>Hoekstra said he is &#8220;absolutely furious&#8221; that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan&#8217;s attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.<br />
Once again,<br />
We failed to connect the dots.</p>
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		<title>By: JeninCT</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/hasan-jihadist-or-mental-case/comment-page-1#comment-71421</link>
		<dc:creator>JeninCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jihadist or Mental case? Are the two mutually exclusive? Maybe he&#039;s a jihadist mental case? Is any murderous jihadist truly sane?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jihadist or Mental case? Are the two mutually exclusive? Maybe he&#8217;s a jihadist mental case? Is any murderous jihadist truly sane?</p>
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		<title>By: mlindroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlindroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Also stressed, as if it had anything to do with his actions, is he felt harassed
&gt; and mocked because of his religion — something that is difficult to swallow,
&gt; considering he was an army officer, and army officers are not usually picked on by bullies.

I don&#039;t quite understand this argument! If he was &quot;quiet and reserved&quot; and his religion was not popular, isn&#039;t it possible that his PEERS or SUPERIORS mocked him for it? I am not saying they did, but it does not sound impossible to me.

MARCU$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Also stressed, as if it had anything to do with his actions, is he felt harassed<br />
&gt; and mocked because of his religion — something that is difficult to swallow,<br />
&gt; considering he was an army officer, and army officers are not usually picked on by bullies.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand this argument! If he was &#8220;quiet and reserved&#8221; and his religion was not popular, isn&#8217;t it possible that his PEERS or SUPERIORS mocked him for it? I am not saying they did, but it does not sound impossible to me.</p>
<p>MARCU$</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMcC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMcC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, today&#039;s NYTimes reports &quot;Preliminary Inquiry Finds No Link To Terror Plot&quot;.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/us/08investigate.html?hp

Which of course does not exactly answer the question raised above.  We have learned many times the last few decades--since Charles Whitman climbed to the top of the Texas Tower--the seriousness of the pathology of the isolated, angry male.  Add a war and his Islamic religion--big trouble.  

Apparently the FBI had noticed an internet post exculpating suicide bombers with the same name as Maj Hasan attached.  I have not heard that they shared this with his chain of command.  Possibly this was another example of what the 9/11 commission called &#039;stove piping&#039; of intelligence.   

If so, perhaps we&#039;ll learn sooner or later that possessing intelligence is nothing without sharing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, today&#8217;s NYTimes reports &#8220;Preliminary Inquiry Finds No Link To Terror Plot&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/us/08investigate.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/us/08investigate.html?hp</a></p>
<p>Which of course does not exactly answer the question raised above.  We have learned many times the last few decades&#8211;since Charles Whitman climbed to the top of the Texas Tower&#8211;the seriousness of the pathology of the isolated, angry male.  Add a war and his Islamic religion&#8211;big trouble.  </p>
<p>Apparently the FBI had noticed an internet post exculpating suicide bombers with the same name as Maj Hasan attached.  I have not heard that they shared this with his chain of command.  Possibly this was another example of what the 9/11 commission called &#8217;stove piping&#8217; of intelligence.   </p>
<p>If so, perhaps we&#8217;ll learn sooner or later that possessing intelligence is nothing without sharing it.</p>
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