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		<title>By: NJ Town Works With Union to Cut Municipal Costs &#124; FrontPageSearch</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/glenn-beck-and-ron-paul-2/comment-page-2#comment-299772</link>
		<dc:creator>NJ Town Works With Union to Cut Municipal Costs &#124; FrontPageSearch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Glenn Beck - Ron Paul - Terrorism? &#124; FrontPageSearch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Beck - Ron Paul - Terrorism? &#124; FrontPageSearch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 03:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NewsReal Vs. David Frum &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewsReal Vs. David Frum &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at New Majority, Glenn Beck and Ron Paul by David [...]</description>
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		<title>By: PunditFight.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve written wondering aloud why Ron Paul wasn&#039;t credited as the spiritual leader of the &#039;Tea Party&#039; movement. It was essentially an extension of the passionate and well organised community Paul amassed during this campaign , championing the same &quot;Left and Right are both bad&quot;, &quot;fiscal responsibility&quot; platform Paul ran on. 

Glenn Beck has been widely considered the spiritual leader of the 9/12  and Tea Party movement. Does all of this mean that the pundits are starting to distance themselves from the Tea Party movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve written wondering aloud why Ron Paul wasn&#8217;t credited as the spiritual leader of the &#8216;Tea Party&#8217; movement. It was essentially an extension of the passionate and well organised community Paul amassed during this campaign , championing the same &#8220;Left and Right are both bad&#8221;, &#8220;fiscal responsibility&#8221; platform Paul ran on. </p>
<p>Glenn Beck has been widely considered the spiritual leader of the 9/12  and Tea Party movement. Does all of this mean that the pundits are starting to distance themselves from the Tea Party movement?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Beck Rocks! - Page 12 - TeakDoor.com - The Thailand Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more of a Perotista than a Reaganite. His interest in conspiracy theories is disquieting, as is his admiration for Ron Paul and his charges of American </description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Commentary on Glenn Beck Liberal Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Commentary on Glenn Beck Liberal Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more of a Perotista than a Reaganite. His interest in conspiracy theories is disquieting, as is his admiration for Ron Paul and his charges of American “imperialism.” (He is now talking about pulling troops [...]</description>
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		<title>By: paladinofpeace</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/glenn-beck-and-ron-paul-2/comment-page-1#comment-65364</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beck has never been a major supporter of Ron Paul, but he has provided him a forum. That is more than the Republican Party has done, for good or ill. The Republican party has become far too Progressive and most Americans are simply tired of it. 

Just because we are not happy with the far left Progressivism does not mean we embrace the inside-the-beltway Republicanism. That age is over.

Glenn Beck represents the New New Conservative Populism that combines an &#039;everyman&#039; spirit with conservative principles and the tactics of leftist radicalism. The problem is that too many Neocons and second- and third-generation Buckley-ites believe that they deserve complete control of the Conservative movement  and they seem to believe with such aplomb that the useful idiots, the right-leaning Wal-Mart shopping unwashed masses, will crawl back to the Conservative cognizant elite once we see with Beck that he, the Emperor, has no clothes. They believe they will regain their former power. 

Forget it. You really just don&#039;t get it. There is a frame-breaking movement afoot, the old schemas do not work anymore, but, sadly, Mr. Frum and many others of the old guard are too entrenched to understand it. Proof of your misunderstanding is self-evident in these Beck-related postings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beck has never been a major supporter of Ron Paul, but he has provided him a forum. That is more than the Republican Party has done, for good or ill. The Republican party has become far too Progressive and most Americans are simply tired of it. </p>
<p>Just because we are not happy with the far left Progressivism does not mean we embrace the inside-the-beltway Republicanism. That age is over.</p>
<p>Glenn Beck represents the New New Conservative Populism that combines an &#8216;everyman&#8217; spirit with conservative principles and the tactics of leftist radicalism. The problem is that too many Neocons and second- and third-generation Buckley-ites believe that they deserve complete control of the Conservative movement  and they seem to believe with such aplomb that the useful idiots, the right-leaning Wal-Mart shopping unwashed masses, will crawl back to the Conservative cognizant elite once we see with Beck that he, the Emperor, has no clothes. They believe they will regain their former power. </p>
<p>Forget it. You really just don&#8217;t get it. There is a frame-breaking movement afoot, the old schemas do not work anymore, but, sadly, Mr. Frum and many others of the old guard are too entrenched to understand it. Proof of your misunderstanding is self-evident in these Beck-related postings.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cpanza:  &lt;blockquote&gt; If Paul would support a federal law that defines life beginning at conception, then he’s for a federal law outlawing abortions. Which would make him not particularly libertarian on the issue, since how to define “life” is a clear moral issue that it open to interpretation, and should be left up to local communities, or perhaps even individuals.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
I concur.

The issue isn&#039;t life, but personhood.  Is a fetus a person?  Is an embryo a person?  There is no scientific definition of &quot;person,&quot; and hence no real scientific answer to that.  It remains a matter of personal philosophy.

If Ron Paul wants to legislate that personhood begins at conception (meaning that a newly fertilized egg gets Fourteenth Amendment rights), then he&#039;s not being libertarian on this issue at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cpanza:   If Paul would support a federal law that defines life beginning at conception, then he’s for a federal law outlawing abortions. Which would make him not particularly libertarian on the issue, since how to define “life” is a clear moral issue that it open to interpretation, and should be left up to local communities, or perhaps even individuals.<br />
I concur.</p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t life, but personhood.  Is a fetus a person?  Is an embryo a person?  There is no scientific definition of &#8220;person,&#8221; and hence no real scientific answer to that.  It remains a matter of personal philosophy.</p>
<p>If Ron Paul wants to legislate that personhood begins at conception (meaning that a newly fertilized egg gets Fourteenth Amendment rights), then he&#8217;s not being libertarian on this issue at least.</p>
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		<title>By: cpanza</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/glenn-beck-and-ron-paul-2/comment-page-1#comment-65281</link>
		<dc:creator>cpanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fzz:

If Paul would support a federal law that defines life beginning at conception, then he&#039;s for a federal law outlawing abortions. Which would make him not particularly libertarian on the issue, since how to define &quot;life&quot; is a clear moral issue that it open to interpretation, and should be left up to local communities, or perhaps even individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fzz:</p>
<p>If Paul would support a federal law that defines life beginning at conception, then he&#8217;s for a federal law outlawing abortions. Which would make him not particularly libertarian on the issue, since how to define &#8220;life&#8221; is a clear moral issue that it open to interpretation, and should be left up to local communities, or perhaps even individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Chamois</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/glenn-beck-and-ron-paul-2/comment-page-1#comment-65273</link>
		<dc:creator>Chamois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got an idea.  Agree with Beck when he&#039;s right; disagree with him when he&#039;s wrong.  But remember that David Frum is the same man who wrote the most disappointing NR cover story ever -- claiming that Bob Novak was unpatriotic.  It&#039;s rich for such a man to disagree with another&#039;s tactics, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got an idea.  Agree with Beck when he&#8217;s right; disagree with him when he&#8217;s wrong.  But remember that David Frum is the same man who wrote the most disappointing NR cover story ever &#8212; claiming that Bob Novak was unpatriotic.  It&#8217;s rich for such a man to disagree with another&#8217;s tactics, no?</p>
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