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		<title>By: About support, rasmussen obama poll, health care, obama gallup poll, obama approval, president obama &#124; Find me About</title>
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		<dc:creator>About support, rasmussen obama poll, health care, obama gallup poll, obama approval, president obama &#124; Find me About</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Blumenthal links to Rush Limbaugh accusing Gallup of “upping the sample [of] black Americans to keep [Obama] up at 50%” in the polls. (For the context, see the last paragraph of the transcript.) Frank Newport of Gallup responds here. &#8230;Read Original Story: Fudging Poll Numbers 101 &#8211; FrumForum [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Blumenthal links to Rush Limbaugh accusing Gallup of “upping the sample [of] black Americans to keep [Obama] up at 50%” in the polls. (For the context, see the last paragraph of the transcript.) Frank Newport of Gallup responds here. &#8230;Read Original Story: Fudging Poll Numbers 101 &#8211; FrumForum [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/fudging-poll-numbers-101/comment-page-1#comment-73806</link>
		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlankHead, I remember posters on the Mall in DC with &quot;FudgePacker&quot; next to Rove plugging Cheney or Bush from behind... I remember posters on the Mall in DC with &quot;Bug Chasers&quot; next to a picture of the Bush Cabinet and Rove bent over Bush and pointing at something in a briefing packet... both those posters were in a line of posters for the Easter Egg Roll and carried by gayLeft democrat activists.  I remember pictures of Bush helping the ailing Saudi King down some steps and the SEIU activists scrawled &quot;Hey McChimpy, does Karl know you have a new boyfriend with benefits?&quot;.

The people you call political allies can be a pretty scummy lot, BlankHead.  But then, that doesn&#039;t matter because you&#039;ve got them here with TeaBagged and AutomaticBSer and OldSkwerl.  You&#039;re use to slumming it with political pals.

I think you need to stop asking rhetorical questions, BlankHead --you&#039;re earning your title.  BlankHead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlankHead, I remember posters on the Mall in DC with &#8220;FudgePacker&#8221; next to Rove plugging Cheney or Bush from behind&#8230; I remember posters on the Mall in DC with &#8220;Bug Chasers&#8221; next to a picture of the Bush Cabinet and Rove bent over Bush and pointing at something in a briefing packet&#8230; both those posters were in a line of posters for the Easter Egg Roll and carried by gayLeft democrat activists.  I remember pictures of Bush helping the ailing Saudi King down some steps and the SEIU activists scrawled &#8220;Hey McChimpy, does Karl know you have a new boyfriend with benefits?&#8221;.</p>
<p>The people you call political allies can be a pretty scummy lot, BlankHead.  But then, that doesn&#8217;t matter because you&#8217;ve got them here with TeaBagged and AutomaticBSer and OldSkwerl.  You&#8217;re use to slumming it with political pals.</p>
<p>I think you need to stop asking rhetorical questions, BlankHead &#8211;you&#8217;re earning your title.  BlankHead.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;and Rove all sorts of slanderous gay-bigoted terms&lt;/b&gt;

gay bigoted terms?

Like what ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/11/AR2006111101103.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;turd blossom?&lt;/a&gt;

By the way, MI-GOPer ... you do know that Karl Rove is&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/scientificactivist/2007/04/christopher_hitchens_karl_rove.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; an atheist&lt;/a&gt;, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Rove all sorts of slanderous gay-bigoted terms</p>
<p>gay bigoted terms?</p>
<p>Like what &#8230; turd blossom?</p>
<p>By the way, MI-GOPer &#8230; you do know that Karl Rove is an atheist, right?</p>
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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
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		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why tdawg?  we listened for years to far Left democrat activists call Bush McChimpey and Cheney Darth Vader and Rove all sorts of slanderous gay-bigoted terms... and during the campaign it was Rudy McRomney and The Pig with Lipstick... hmmmm.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and you suddenly get squimish?  

It doesn&#039;t sound childish --it&#039;s accurate.  BessieStupidCow is nearly the size of a full Heffer... and KarlMarxLevin is certainly to the left of Karl Marx on lots of issues... a guy who had some strong devotees inside the Democrat Party, no?

tdawg, it would be more compelling if I&#039;d watched you mouth similar concerns when TeaBagged or AutomaticBSer were in high gear on this site.

You didn&#039;t, of course.  Then, when it was your team doing it, it was fun and good sport.  When the arrow hits too close to home, then you start crying?  Spare us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why tdawg?  we listened for years to far Left democrat activists call Bush McChimpey and Cheney Darth Vader and Rove all sorts of slanderous gay-bigoted terms&#8230; and during the campaign it was Rudy McRomney and The Pig with Lipstick&#8230; hmmmm.</p>
<p>Now the shoe is on the other foot and you suddenly get squimish?  </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t sound childish &#8211;it&#8217;s accurate.  BessieStupidCow is nearly the size of a full Heffer&#8230; and KarlMarxLevin is certainly to the left of Karl Marx on lots of issues&#8230; a guy who had some strong devotees inside the Democrat Party, no?</p>
<p>tdawg, it would be more compelling if I&#8217;d watched you mouth similar concerns when TeaBagged or AutomaticBSer were in high gear on this site.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t, of course.  Then, when it was your team doing it, it was fun and good sport.  When the arrow hits too close to home, then you start crying?  Spare us.</p>
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		<title>By: tdawg11870</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdawg11870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MI-GOPer, everyone else: Can we call people by their real names?  Does it really grate you so much to use names like &quot;Stabenow&quot; and &quot;Limbaugh&quot;?  If you want to get your digs in, just use the rest of the sentence.  You sound like children and undermine the rest of your argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MI-GOPer, everyone else: Can we call people by their real names?  Does it really grate you so much to use names like &#8220;Stabenow&#8221; and &#8220;Limbaugh&#8221;?  If you want to get your digs in, just use the rest of the sentence.  You sound like children and undermine the rest of your argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.   I just went to fivethirtyeight.com to see if they had a piece up about this, and found this same piece.   Mr. Gelman published it there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.   I just went to fivethirtyeight.com to see if they had a piece up about this, and found this same piece.   Mr. Gelman published it there too.</p>
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		<title>By: Raider1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raider1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MI-GOPer...be careful. YOu don&#039;t know which Otto you are talking to.  I have identified three, possibly four, parallel life stories he has manifested here.  But there may be the world-feared internation assassin and man of intrigue about to appear.  Tread lightly my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MI-GOPer&#8230;be careful. YOu don&#8217;t know which Otto you are talking to.  I have identified three, possibly four, parallel life stories he has manifested here.  But there may be the world-feared internation assassin and man of intrigue about to appear.  Tread lightly my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Raider1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raider1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alleging...there ya go.  It was not news because the DNC sees racism at the root of everything.  I did notice to the right here though that Jesse Jackson very much keeps fanning the flames of racial strife (so he can keep his very existence justified and the extortion fees rolling in to pay off his mistresses) by saying that if you are anti-healthcare legislation and are Black you are a traitor to your race.

Democratic Myth of Myths: They want a &quot;post-racial&quot; society.  Nothing could be further from the truth. The DNC keeps its ill-served Black constiuency in line by feeding them the line that we are still a very racist country and only they look out for Blacks...by feeding them the crack of government dependency.  Jesse Jackson, Al Shorpton, et al. what on earth would they do in a true color-blind society--besides fade to oblivion and face taxe evasion charges?  

Trust me, no one wants racial strife in the country more than that very party who claim to be oh-so-color bind...the election of the wholley unqualified, un-vetted, far left-radical with ZERO executive experience Barack Hussein Obama being case in point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alleging&#8230;there ya go.  It was not news because the DNC sees racism at the root of everything.  I did notice to the right here though that Jesse Jackson very much keeps fanning the flames of racial strife (so he can keep his very existence justified and the extortion fees rolling in to pay off his mistresses) by saying that if you are anti-healthcare legislation and are Black you are a traitor to your race.</p>
<p>Democratic Myth of Myths: They want a &#8220;post-racial&#8221; society.  Nothing could be further from the truth. The DNC keeps its ill-served Black constiuency in line by feeding them the line that we are still a very racist country and only they look out for Blacks&#8230;by feeding them the crack of government dependency.  Jesse Jackson, Al Shorpton, et al. what on earth would they do in a true color-blind society&#8211;besides fade to oblivion and face taxe evasion charges?  </p>
<p>Trust me, no one wants racial strife in the country more than that very party who claim to be oh-so-color bind&#8230;the election of the wholley unqualified, un-vetted, far left-radical with ZERO executive experience Barack Hussein Obama being case in point.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Radier1, I attended a press briefing last Thursday held by the Michigan Democrat Party alleging that the 3-4 state pollsters doing local polling were bigots and racists for under-representing both the black and urban public opinion.&lt;/b&gt;

If this was a press briefing ... do you have any links to media reporting of the subject of the meeting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radier1, I attended a press briefing last Thursday held by the Michigan Democrat Party alleging that the 3-4 state pollsters doing local polling were bigots and racists for under-representing both the black and urban public opinion.</p>
<p>If this was a press briefing &#8230; do you have any links to media reporting of the subject of the meeting?</p>
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		<title>By: MI-GOPer</title>
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		<dc:creator>MI-GOPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AutomaticBSer chimes in from the Retirement Lounge at the local union goon shop &quot;the paranoia attacks pretty bad this morning&quot;... I&#039;m thinking you migth want to read some of the other threads, automaticBSer... it seems that lots of folks are calling you and TeaBagged and all the TrollTribe out into the public square as irritants, activists and disrupters.

There&#039;s no paranoia for me.  I&#039;m just reporting what the Michigan Democrat Party is trying to do to help the Obama Messiah... and NY&#039;s AttyGen Cuomo.

I think you&#039;ve been reading Saul Alinsky&#039;s book a little too late into the night and it shows.  &quot;When confronted with the superior argument, community activists must use parody or ridicule to try to destroy their opponent&#039;s better thinking&quot;.

You nailed the text book definition with #8, automaticBSer.  And everyone here now knows what your pathetic, tired game is all about.  And still you post?  That&#039;s just your lameness informing your actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AutomaticBSer chimes in from the Retirement Lounge at the local union goon shop &#8220;the paranoia attacks pretty bad this morning&#8221;&#8230; I&#8217;m thinking you migth want to read some of the other threads, automaticBSer&#8230; it seems that lots of folks are calling you and TeaBagged and all the TrollTribe out into the public square as irritants, activists and disrupters.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no paranoia for me.  I&#8217;m just reporting what the Michigan Democrat Party is trying to do to help the Obama Messiah&#8230; and NY&#8217;s AttyGen Cuomo.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve been reading Saul Alinsky&#8217;s book a little too late into the night and it shows.  &#8220;When confronted with the superior argument, community activists must use parody or ridicule to try to destroy their opponent&#8217;s better thinking&#8221;.</p>
<p>You nailed the text book definition with #8, automaticBSer.  And everyone here now knows what your pathetic, tired game is all about.  And still you post?  That&#8217;s just your lameness informing your actions.</p>
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