Fox News: Feminist Champion

November 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am David Frum | 50 Comments |

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On the Fox News site today, I clicked a link to a Sean Hannity interview with Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

Hannity opened the item by blasting Newsweek‘s cover story on Gov. Palin as “blatantly sexist.” He asked, “What is behind this double standard?”

At about the 3:11 minute mark, Hasselbeck offers this answer to the host’s questions: “When I saw that I was infuriated, as most women should be. It is as you said blatantly sexist. Where now is the National Organization for Women? Where are they? Where are they when a conservative woman is being reduced to that sort of cover?”

Hannity chimed in: “It seems to come down to a really basic litmus test whether women’s groups will support you or not.”

Good point! While some women can be sexually objectified with impunity by the liberal lamestream media, others get protected. Yep, it’s a litmus test. One question though. About an inch below the box in which Hannity and Hasselback joined to denounce leching and leering, was a smaller icon that linked to this item.


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Question for Fox: what litmus test did these women flunk?


PS – in reply to reader TXANNE, I do agree that the Newsweek cover was sensational and inappropriate. Whatever games Palin may be playing with her admirers do not excuse news sources from playing similar games with their readers.

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  • balconesfault

    lol … there is a sizable segment of the US population who believes … knows … that smut is evil. Unless, of course, the smut is part of the news – in which case keeping abreast of supermodels bodies and Monica’s fellatrix technique is simply part of being an informed citizen.

    Fox does know their audience well. Grab em’ by the groin.

  • Chekote

    Bill O’Reilly constantly shows tintillating clips in his culture warrior segments. As far as the Newsweek cover, who posed for that Betty Boop inspired photos? Did Katie Couric make her do it?

  • LFC

    I’m certainly no fan of Faux News, but you have to admit that it’s a bit unfair to compare the cover of Newsweek to a segment that has the word “Gossip” prominently displayed at the beginning.

  • jabbermule

    And the circular firing squad continues. It appears that Frum’s plan for “Conservatism That Can Win Again” won’t include Fox News, or talk radio, or Sarah Palin, or the tea party movement, or Glenn Beck, or Bill O’Reilly, etc etc etc.

    Nah, who needs that big tent crap? Frum seems to think that conservatism can win again with that 2% or so of Buckley conservatives (if any of them are still alive)…leave that populism garbage for the left.

  • joemarier

    For the record, I didn’t think the cover photo was sexist, but the the photo of the Palin doll in the schoolgirl outfit was.

  • txanne

    I think the Newsweek cover was out of line, if not blatant sexism. Come on, there is a big difference in runners digest and a news magazine. You wouldnt wear that outfit to a business meeting.

    I am no Palin fan but I think Newsweek is just trying to be provocative to sell more copies.

  • Chekote

    I think Newsweek is just trying to be provocative to sell more copies.

    You think?????

  • CentristNYer

    Does anyone recall Fox & Friend’s coverage of the Lingerie Football Romp, which host Gretchen Carlson described as the best TV ever?

    Refresh your memories here:

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-8-2009/fox—friends–lingerie-football-romp

  • jabbermule

    “I think Newsweek is just trying to be provocative to sell more copies.

    You think?????”

    I think Newsweek was continuing the left-wing media’s plan of doing everything they can to discredit Palin…you think?????

  • esurience

    Wait, why is it sexist? Isn’t the only reason that conservative (heterosexual males) are enthralled with Palin is because she’s attractive? Palin is not exactly an intellectual. Her attractiveness *is*, undeniably, one of her major selling points. Just ask Rich Lowry over at NRO, who got all enamored with her after he thought she *winked* at him while doing a debate with Joe Biden. What kind of cover do you want? Palin sitting behind a governor’s desk, with glasses on, looking over some paperwork? Uhm, oh right, she’s not a governor any more.

    Attractive & dumb men are treated the same way in media. Wasn’t John Edwards often called a pretty boy and such?

  • txanne

    Chekote // Nov 20, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    “You think????”

    lol, I deserved that one”

    jabbermule // Nov 20, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    “I think Newsweek was continuing the left-wing media’s plan of doing everything they can to discredit Palin…you think?????”

    Palin doesn’t need any help at all in that department. She does a fine job of discrediting herself.

  • MI-GOPer

    Wow another complete circle jerk from the Tribe of Trolls operating as democrat underground activists fouling yet another thread, another blog.

    David, the give away here is “FoxNews.com/gossip” tag for this article or show that airs 7 seconds into the piece; did you actually watch it? It’s about Hollywood gossip and mindless natterings… how else will Fox News attract MS-NBC viewers from Chrissy Matthews’ gossip show?

    You gotta love that the most damaging piece on this site, in the judgment of our Troll Tribe of democrats, is a piece that knocks Fox.

    All while the main FoxNews programs soar off the charts! And Lou Dobbs, the only conservative on CNN, goes looking for work.

  • Bebe99

    She looks like a hockey mom.

    I think it was wrong of Newsweek to use the photo which was, apparently, never meant for anything but a runnning mag. Shame on them. On the other hand a great many of us don’t take this woman as a serious candidate for any office–she did quit the one job that might have shown that she could handle the hardest job in the land. So it is hard for me to take her seriously, and I suspect Newsweek doesn’t either. She quit, cashed in, became a millionaire, and now wants to control how the media portrays her–nobody gets to do that.

  • balconesfault

    Sarah is seeming to embrace the old Oscar Wilde motto:

    “The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.”

  • Independent

    balconesfault seems to embrace the old Saul Alinsky quote:

    “It is most important we do to not let up on our adversaries, even if they beg Uncle. It’s only important to completely, totally and unequivocally destroy their arguments, their credibility, their character and their soul. They need to leave the battlefield on a stretcher. Anything less and the battle was unworthy of us in the first place.”

  • Independent

    “She quit, cashed in, became a millionaire, and now wants to control how the media portrays her–nobody gets to do that” –bebe99 @ #13

    bebe, with all due respect, she didn’t “quit”; former governor sarah palin resigned. unlike lots of democrats, she didn’t resign to avoid prosecution. unlike lots of democrats, she didn’t resign for self-interest. unlike a lot of democrats, she didn’t resign to protect her pension.

    she resigned and gave up what she admitted was the best job in the world in order to help alaska move on past the constant harassing faux complaints from democrat lawyer activists and let her competent and gifted and hand-picked #2 guy take over and lead. and you call that quitting? what a line of bullshit.

    she isn’t a millionair by any stretch. the democrat and obama attack machine left her with over $1m in legal and consulting fees to pay off. unlike democrats faced with a similar problem, mrs palin is facing the obligations and making good on her debts. when slick willy had a similar experience, he ran from his debts. we all know how the clintons handled billing matters… hide ‘em til they need to be found; lie about their existance if need be.

    finally, i don’t hear mrs palin complaining or whining. she’s telling her side of the story on some complicated, protracted issues. she’s defending herself assertively against some underhanded, mean-spirited disgruntled mccain staffers who, frankly, acted with such arrogance i don’t regret voting for obama.

    you sound a lot like the trolls on this site. bash bush. bash cheney. bash rove. bash fox. bash palin. what is it with you people? do you gather around some cyber water cooler and plan your day’s talking points?

  • MR FACE

    “Independent”

    And you bash Obama. And Holder. And Biden. And Clinton. And every other democrat.
    So how does that make you any different from the “trolls” on this site that you are complaining about? That makes you a hypocrite, no?

  • PracticalGirl

    Mrs. Palin, at the helm of her own public relations destiny this time, has proven to be no more successful in controlling her media image this time than the two McCain staffers she blamed for her poor showing in the Couric interview.

    I agree with you, txanne, that the choice of artwork for the Newsweek cover was out of line. But if Sarah is such a savvy media maven and has surrounded herself with smarter supporters this go-round, then why did she leave it up to the magazine? I assume she and her handlers knew this would be a cover story, and within that context there were certainly some negotiations/considerations for her to agree to do the interview. Palin and her team stubbed their own toes by apparently not even asking the question “When is my photo shoot?” of “Where will you get the cover picture?” to a satisfactory outcome.

    Perhaps she shouldn’t have assumed the worst, but why didn’t she? By her own admission, she’s an expert on how the mainstream media can and will screw her over for their own profits. And this time, no matter how whiny she gets on Facebook, she has only herself to blame.

  • ottovbvs

    Independent // Nov 20, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    “bebe, with all due respect, she didn’t “quit”; former governor sarah palin resigned.”

    ……In the middle of her term…..quitting?…..resigning?…….a distinction without a difference surely?……rather hilariously she also quit a book signing in Indiana and ticked off hundreds of her sheep who’d been in line for hours in the cold and rain at a book signing

  • CentristNYer

    Mr Face, these guys aren’t worth answering. They’re like the know-it-all losers who hang out at the end of the bar spouting nonsense to whomever will listen. What they don’t realize is that no one is paying them the slightest bit of attention and that yelling “troll!” louder and louder doesn’t change that.

    I think their ravings are best met with benign neglect.

  • ottovbvs

    CentristNYer // Nov 20, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    ” I think their ravings are best met with benign neglect.”

    ……I don’t know, there’s a certain vicarious pleasure to be had by rattling their cages………..mi-goper is hugely entertaining because he’s so full of anger and bile……..a few paras from him are a heck of a laugh…..Independant is a new face but seems every bit as screwy if not quite as angry…….he thinks Palin’s qualified to be president and then without an ounce of irony says she was run out of town:

    “she resigned and gave up what she admitted was the best job in the world in order to help alaska move on past the constant harassing faux complaints from democrat lawyer activists”

    …….They are truly hilarious and have probably given me more laughs over the last six months than several broadway shows I’ve attended in this time……lie back and enjoy the show centristnyer

  • sinz54

    Wait a minute!

    Sarah Palin POSED for that photo, for Runner’s World. Here’s the original:

    http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/07/sarah-palin-runners-world-photos/

    There were other poses she could have employed as a runner, if she felt this pose didn’t look dignified.

    But once she posed for it, why should she complain if other media have copied it?

    Segolene Royal got photographed by paparazzi when she was in a bikini. She could claim that she didn’t mean to be seen in public that way (though she was in a public beach). But Sarah Palin deliberately posed that way for a photo shoot in a magazine.

  • Chekote

    Sinz

    Katie Couric made her do the photos. It was all a biased plot by the “lamestream” media to sabotage this future candidate for a science Nobel prize.

  • ottovbvs

    Chekote // Nov 20, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    “Katie Couric made her do the photos. It was all a biased plot by the “lamestream” media to sabotage this future candidate for a science Nobel prize.”

    …….Nice one Churl…..what a pity you don’t demonstrate the same inconoclasm and sense of irony more often……if this is a sample you’re quite good at it

  • Chekote

    Otto

    I wrote that not Churl.

  • sdspringy

    Frum states that the reason for Palin’s popularity is her infamous Sarah Sexuality. And it would appear only those with low testosterone, like Frum or Otto are immune.

    I find the photo flattering, but also realize those with PDS,(Palin Derangement Syndrome) will use any method to portray Sarah unflatteringly. Really who wants to see Hilary thighs, or Pelosi in shorts, sends a shriveling sensation through my body. Dress Sarah in chest waders and she still out shines Hilary, Pelosi, or how about crazy Cynthia McKinney.

    And really isn’t this the root of the problem for those with PDS. Where is a lib who has accomplished so much? Sarah never got her college paid for. Yet has accomplished this on her own. Who paid for Obama’s tuition? Sarah did not sell drugs during college, like Obama. Where is the Lib who has 5 kids, and was elected to a governorship?

    Demean her intelligence yet Pelosi’s book bombed. Who would be considered more intelligent on that score? Compare verbal missteps between Biden and Sarah. Who do think would have the highest score?

    So other than a bunch of Sullivan clones with PDS, what is the beef?

  • CentristNYer

    Otto: Point taken.

    I won’t deny that there’s a poke-the-stick-in-the-cage quality to it that’s undeniably satisfying, but those two are just so deluded and have so little grip on reality that it just doesn’t feel like a fair fight.

  • sinz54

    sdspringy: So other than a bunch of Sullivan clones with PDS, what is the beef?
    The beef is that her poor command of national and international issues makes her unqualified to be President at a time of war and economic crisis. Period.

    Polls confirm that’s Americans’ perceptions of her too. They don’t despise her personally (yes, her approval rating is approaching Obama’s as hers rises and his falls). But they don’t consider her qualified to be President.

    We’re going around and around in circles, because Palin’s supporters keep claiming that Palin has a good heart, and to them, having a good heart is all that matters. NO IT IS NOT.

    I concede that Palin is a good person. But I maintain that is insufficient qualification to be President. Especially at this time.

  • sinz54

    ottovbs: there’s a certain vicarious pleasure to be had by rattling their cages
    And that’s the only reason you take time away from admiring yourself in the mirror to grace us with your presence here.

  • sinz54

    Here’s the Newsweek article on Palin:

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/222786

    There’s nothing “sexist” in it.
    It’s not too kind to the hard-right conservatives of the GOP.
    But that’s to be expected from Newsweek, the print equivalent of MSNBC. Senators Sessions or DeMint would have gotten the same negative treatment that Palin did. And they didn’t pose for photoshoots in Runner’s World.

  • ottovbvs

    25 Chekote // Nov 20, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Otto

    “I wrote that not Churl.”

    …….Sorry I misapplied the authorship……it was really quite amusing coming from the usually irony deficient conservative classes

  • ottovbvs

    CentristNYer // Nov 20, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Otto: Point taken.

    “I won’t deny that there’s a poke-the-stick-in-the-cage quality to it that’s undeniably satisfying, but those two are just so deluded and have so little grip on reality that it just doesn’t feel like a fair fight.”

    ………It does have a certain shooting fish in a barrel quality about it when it comes to this pair I’ll admit.

  • ottovbvs

    29 sinz54 // Nov 21, 2009 at 9:45 am

    “And that’s the only reason you take time away from admiring yourself in the mirror to grace us with your presence here.”

    ……….you forget all blogging is to some extent mirror gazing because it’s essentially self entertainment a bit like playing solitaire……even your complete phoniness does have some mild entertainment value…..not quite in the league of the two stooges though

  • ottovbvs

    sdspringy // Nov 20, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    “Demean her intelligence yet Pelosi’s book bombed. ”

    ……….Do look up what non sequitur means……Palin didn’t write the book…..and if books sales are the criteria by which you measure the achievements and competence of politicians you must be one of Bill and Hillary Clinton’s biggest fans……the OJ trial book sold quite well too I seem to remember does this mean you’re a fan of OJ

  • balconesfault

    sdspringy wrote: Sarah never got her college paid for.

    Granted, I didn’t read the book – but Sarah paid for her own education herself? If she was working one or more jobs to make enough money to pay for tuition and room and board, I would be impressed – and that would go a long way towards explains her sketchy college record. Many who have to work to pay for their own college, without a family that has the resources to support them, never end up finishing college.

  • balconesfault

    Sinz:

    Wait a minute!

    Sarah Palin POSED for that photo, for Runner’s World. Here’s the original:

    http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/07/sarah-palin-runners-world-photos/

    And posed, indeed.

    I certainly hope she doesn’t have flags lying around the place, draped over various pieces of furniture, ready to be photographed on a moment’s notice.

    That seems kind of disrespectful to the flag, from my perspective. I’d give a solid chewing out to the boys in my scout troop if I came into the campsite and found their American flag hanging over a chairback, one of them leaning on it.

    In fact, were Obama to have posed with the American Flag positioned thusly, the right-wing outrage machine would already be cranked up to 11 over it.

  • Chekote

    There was nothing sexist about the Newsweek cover. Palin is a professional victim.

  • anniemargret

    chekote: “There was nothing sexist about the Newsweek cover. Palin is a professional victim.”

    Totally agree. Hillary got a boatload of criticism with her ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ comment. It sounded too much like she was being played for a victim. It is always unflattering in a politician, but particularly so for a women in politics.

    And it is why Palin will never be taken seriously. The vast majority of Americans need to look up to someone who can take criticism and move on. She uses it to keep her fans angry and encourage the ‘us vs them’ mentality. It won’t fly come election time.

  • sinz54

    ottovbs: you forget all blogging is to some extent mirror gazing because it’s essentially self entertainment a bit like playing solitaire……even your complete phoniness does have some mild entertainment value…..not quite in the league of the two stooges though
    Reward yourself.

    Buy yourself a bigger mirror for Christmas.

  • ottovbvs

    38 sinz54 // Nov 21, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    “Buy yourself a bigger mirror for Christmas.”

    …….this the most profound thing you can come up with in response to something that is entirely true and completely apolitical?……..I will say this Sinz that although you are not as humorous as the two stooges you’re actually a much more interesting psychological study……..you’re obviously not a complete fruitcake but seem to suffer from deep confusions ……as balconesfault has pointed out before you constantly contradict yourself……..add in the odd bit of pompous obiter dicta……..and we get a opinionating that’s more pretzel shaped than most……it’s even quite sensible at times

  • Chekote

    annie

    How about Hannity and the other right wing talk shows hosts saying that no one has been more savagely treated than Palin? I guess they forgot the various conspiracies about Hillary being responsible for Vince Foster’s murder.

  • ottovbvs

    …….Chek you might like this choice piece from the gibberish factory, this was Palin talking to O’Reilly

    “I believe that I am [qualified to be president] because I have common sense, and I have, I believe, the values that are reflective of so many other American values. And I believe that what Americans are seeking is not the elitism, the kind of a spinelessness that perhaps is made up for that with some kind of elite Ivy League education and a fact resume that’s based on anything but hard work and private sector, free enterprise principles.”

    …….when lived in England they used to some guy who did a vaudeville act on tv where he spoke total gibberish with a completely straight face and he’d do spoof interviews on talk shows and the like……this is exactly the same except that a majority of one of our major parties thinks this is coherent and wisdom laden commentary

  • balconesfault

    annie: And it is why Palin will never be taken seriously. The vast majority of Americans need to look up to someone who can take criticism and move on. She uses it to keep her fans angry and encourage the ‘us vs them’ mentality. It won’t fly come election time.

    Annie – I think that probably 70-80% of self-identified Republicans would in fact commit to vote for Palin if she is the party’s nominee.

    I’d estimate that around 50-60% of today’s Republicans would say that Sarah is a reasonable candidate for President, even if not their first choice.

    And I’d estimate that about 20-30% of Republicans would quickly commit to support Sarah if she throws her hat into the ring.

    Now remember – one of the reasons why McCain ran away with the nomination so quickly isn’t because 50% of Republicans were supporting him in primaries – but because Republicans gamed the process to minimize dissent and had a lot of early states that were winner-take-all. Sarah walking into early primaries, where there might be 4 or 5 other legit candidates (legit in terms of having a real chance of drawing a significant vote), might grab some early momentum.

    And anyone opposing her knows that up to half her support could be of the “if Sarah doesn’t end up on the ticket, we’re staying home in November” variety – so they won’t be able to point out some of her knowledge/logic gaps or verbal inconsistencies for fear of alienating this constituency.

    In short, barring some new revelation of Sarah’s past or current conduct that submarines her appeal – I could very easily see watching her debating Obama as the Republican nominee in 2012.

  • CentristNYer

    @Balconesfault: Annie was referring to the “vast majority of Americans.” Remember this: Republican-identified voters barely top out at 20-25% at this point, an all time low. So even if Palin decides to run (and I don’t believe she will) and can glide to the nomination, she’ll be facing an enormously hostile electorate that will tire of her winking through debates and offering bumper sticker prescriptions for what ails the country. Furthermore, if you think she was under scrutiny before, just wait till she’s at the top of the ticket. Todd’s association with that Alaskan separatist party, those creepy videos of her being “protected” from “witchcraft,” and all the inconsistencies in her ongoing story will be fair game.

    Sadly, as Steve Schmidt warned, it would be a GOP bloodbath.

  • ottovbvs

    43 balconesfault // Nov 21, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    ” Annie – I think that probably 70-80% of self-identified Republicans would in fact commit to vote for Palin if she is the party’s nominee.’

    44 CentristNYer // Nov 21, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    ……I always remind myself that in 1936 Alf Landon got 36% of the vote in the greatest electoral landslide in US history…..he carried only two states……So if the Republicans put up Micky D he’s going to get about 36%-40% of the vote which is made up of the base (roughly 25% of the electorate) and another 10-15% of fellow travellers…….that’s just electoral math in America

  • sdspringy

    The inability to provide intelligent aurguements and thus resort to demeaning comment is a Lib talent. Otto is a fine example and verb for this technique is Bit$chy.

    A self made woman who has made it on her own, something Hilary hasn’t done. A woman who has allowed complete acces to her college transcripts, something Obama hasn’t. A person who has executive experience, which Obama had no of, and required no political machine to be successfull.
    She now has a book, which by all standards is a best seller, and Otto whines, “She didn’t write it”.
    Please name the Democrat politician who has penned their own book.
    The book sells because of the story, the narrative, the main character. By that measure Sarah outshines any book released by a Democrat.

    Tough to swallow but Otto please don’t choke on it.

  • MI-GOPer

    Mr About Face inquires: “And you bash Obama. And Holder. And Biden. And Clinton. And every other democrat. So how does that make you any different from the “trolls” on this site that you are complaining about? That makes you a hypocrite, no?”

    I’d think that he would answer it does not, Mr About Face. Trolls here, on this conservative and GOP site which Frum says is dedicated to rebuilding the Party, are guys like you and all the various reincarnations of your presence here under a variety of names and characters.

    I think the troll label sits firmly and squarely on you and TeaBagged and automaticBSer and BlankHead and OldSkwerl and a few others. Troll because you’re here to irritate on a site for which your opinions do not belong.

    Independent is closer to the conversation and discussion –let alone the goals of the site– than you can ever hope to be… you’re stuck under that bridge munching on rotting ferrets and hoping no one recognizes you for the democrat activist troll you are.

    But nice try at confusing the issue.

  • MI-GOPer

    sdspringy nails it with:

    “The inability to provide intelligent aurguements and thus resort to demeaning comment is a Lib talent. Otto is a fine example and verb for this technique is Bit$chy.”

    No truer words could be uttered.

  • CentristNYer

    sdspringy says:

    “The inability to provide intelligent aurguements and thus resort to demeaning comment is a Lib talent.”

    Ironically, this is also true of Sarah Palin.

  • ottovbvs

    46 sdspringy // Nov 21, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    ……..Don’t like having your bumper stickers questioned do you sdspringy

    “Please name the Democrat politician who has penned their own book.”

    ……..Barak Obama (Dreams of my father), Bill Clinton(his presidential memoir) and Jimmy Carter(several), Al Gore (An Inconvenient Truth)