Comments on: Former Director of MI5 Was a Soviet Spy http://www.frumforum.com/former-director-of-mi5-was-a-soviet-sp Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ottovbvs http://www.frumforum.com/former-director-of-mi5-was-a-soviet-sp/comment-page-1#comment-58398 ottovbvs Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:57:34 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9325#comment-58398 .........I'm afraid this belongs with Irving and Holocaust denial........The Hollis as sixth man theory has been beaten to death.......there is absolutely zero evidence, zero, that Hollis was ever a Russian spy......he himself was rigorously re-vetted and the story has been tried endlessly in the British courts, media and government system......it was largely created by a sensationalist journalist Chapma Pincher and a renegade crowd in the British SIS of whom Wright was one.....basically it was guilt by association.......Hollis knew a lot of these people at university and half the British intelligentsia ended up in British intelligence during the war.......The fact that Worthington heads this little piece in the definitive when it's been entirely discredited says it all. ………I’m afraid this belongs with Irving and Holocaust denial……..The Hollis as sixth man theory has been beaten to death…….there is absolutely zero evidence, zero, that Hollis was ever a Russian spy……he himself was rigorously re-vetted and the story has been tried endlessly in the British courts, media and government system……it was largely created by a sensationalist journalist Chapma Pincher and a renegade crowd in the British SIS of whom Wright was one…..basically it was guilt by association…….Hollis knew a lot of these people at university and half the British intelligentsia ended up in British intelligence during the war…….The fact that Worthington heads this little piece in the definitive when it’s been entirely discredited says it all.

]]> By: sinz54 http://www.frumforum.com/former-director-of-mi5-was-a-soviet-sp/comment-page-1#comment-58387 sinz54 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:03:33 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9325#comment-58387 Hollis was under suspicion even while he was director of MI-5. What I can't understand is, why the Brit Government just didn't relieve him of duty immediately when suspicions about him surfaced. The only possible reason is that they knew he was a spy, and figured it was more valuable to leave him in place and watch him rather than reveal to the Soviets that his cover had been blown. Or it could just be bureaucratic inertia. When a bureaucracy starts having trouble (and MI-5 was having lots of failures in that era), the best thing to do is just shake it up, just for the hell of it. Bring in lots of new blood, especially at the very top, and see if that improves the situation. Hollis was under suspicion even while he was director of MI-5.

What I can’t understand is, why the Brit Government just didn’t relieve him of duty immediately when suspicions about him surfaced. The only possible reason is that they knew he was a spy, and figured it was more valuable to leave him in place and watch him rather than reveal to the Soviets that his cover had been blown.

Or it could just be bureaucratic inertia. When a bureaucracy starts having trouble (and MI-5 was having lots of failures in that era), the best thing to do is just shake it up, just for the hell of it. Bring in lots of new blood, especially at the very top, and see if that improves the situation.

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