Comments on: Following the Soviets to Failure http://www.frumforum.com/following-the-soviets-to-failure Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ottovbvs http://www.frumforum.com/following-the-soviets-to-failure/comment-page-1#comment-71276 ottovbvs Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:32:55 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=15424#comment-71276 ........Since Mr Worthington is a Canadian it is noteworthy that in the past hour the Canadian govt has announced it is pulling all it's troops out of Afghanistan by 2011 and is making preparations now. The Govt of Canada is of course conservative and therefore has the support of Mr Worthington......Nothing has changed - only Harper! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_ca/cn_canada_afghanistan ……..Since Mr Worthington is a Canadian it is noteworthy that in the past hour the Canadian govt has announced it is pulling all it’s troops out of Afghanistan by 2011 and is making preparations now. The Govt of Canada is of course conservative and therefore has the support of Mr Worthington……Nothing has changed – only Harper!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_ca/cn_canada_afghanistan

]]> By: JohnMcC http://www.frumforum.com/following-the-soviets-to-failure/comment-page-1#comment-71242 JohnMcC Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:52:22 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=15424#comment-71242 It gets old but I'll keep saying it. No matter what you think would be the best outcome in Afghanistan--huge influx of American troops or the least footprint that we can make--it is a war that that we simply physically are very poorly prepared to fight. The supplies that we depend on to fight the kind of war that American soldiers fight are coming over the Khyber Pass in subcontracted trucks mostly driven by Pakistanis. This is not a long term solution. Unless we wish to buy or steal a seaport and a highway from the Pakistanis we cannot ensure the supply lines to our forces. Ideologues think of politics. Amateurs think of strategy. Professionals think of logistics. It gets old but I’ll keep saying it. No matter what you think would be the best outcome in Afghanistan–huge influx of American troops or the least footprint that we can make–it is a war that that we simply physically are very poorly prepared to fight. The supplies that we depend on to fight the kind of war that American soldiers fight are coming over the Khyber Pass in subcontracted trucks mostly driven by Pakistanis. This is not a long term solution. Unless we wish to buy or steal a seaport and a highway from the Pakistanis we cannot ensure the supply lines to our forces.

Ideologues think of politics. Amateurs think of strategy. Professionals think of logistics.

]]> By: ottovbvs http://www.frumforum.com/following-the-soviets-to-failure/comment-page-1#comment-71114 ottovbvs Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:24:45 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=15424#comment-71114 "Gen. McChrystal is certainly aware of the danger" .........Er......it's McChrystal that's advancing a strategy of population protection......Obama is not the officer in command on the ground " Meanwhile, the training of the Afghan National Army and police continues. Most of the country is reasonably secure, if not pacified." ........Are you kidding, even the Pentagon admits two thirds of the country is under the de facto control of the Taliban or regional warlords.......and there's a story in this morning's NYT highlighting the completely disastrous state of Afghan army and police training (considering it's 90% illiterate is this surprising) and includes one amusing vignette where apparently it's very common in newly built barracks for the Afghan army for soldiers to rip sinks off the wall to wash their feet before religious ceremoniess or to light large fires in the middle of the floor in barrack dorms. ........It's a pity you can't get beyond your Obama hate and show a bit of responsibility.....this is a very serious matter involving the lives of thousands of young Americans and it doesn't deserve to be treated as some sort of political football where you can work out your neuroses about the president. “Gen. McChrystal is certainly aware of the danger”

………Er……it’s McChrystal that’s advancing a strategy of population protection……Obama is not the officer in command on the ground

” Meanwhile, the training of the Afghan National Army and police continues. Most of the country is reasonably secure, if not pacified.”

……..Are you kidding, even the Pentagon admits two thirds of the country is under the de facto control of the Taliban or regional warlords…….and there’s a story in this morning’s NYT highlighting the completely disastrous state of Afghan army and police training (considering it’s 90% illiterate is this surprising) and includes one amusing vignette where apparently it’s very common in newly built barracks for the Afghan army for soldiers to rip sinks off the wall to wash their feet before religious ceremoniess or to light large fires in the middle of the floor in barrack dorms.

……..It’s a pity you can’t get beyond your Obama hate and show a bit of responsibility…..this is a very serious matter involving the lives of thousands of young Americans and it doesn’t deserve to be treated as some sort of political football where you can work out your neuroses about the president.

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