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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/follow-mcdonnell-not-hoffman/comment-page-1#comment-71282</link>
		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeMint today(on Cornyn):

&quot;He’s trying to find candidates who can win. I’m trying to find people who can help me change the Senate,&quot; said Jim DeMint of South Carolina, a leader of the conservative bloc. &quot;To think we can grow the party by picking people who are more liberal and don’t share our core values doesn’t make any sense.&quot;

..........this is reality......this is what is going to play out over the next few years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeMint today(on Cornyn):</p>
<p>&#8220;He’s trying to find candidates who can win. I’m trying to find people who can help me change the Senate,&#8221; said Jim DeMint of South Carolina, a leader of the conservative bloc. &#8220;To think we can grow the party by picking people who are more liberal and don’t share our core values doesn’t make any sense.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.this is reality&#8230;&#8230;this is what is going to play out over the next few years</p>
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		<title>By: DFL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although Bob McDonnell ran a disciplined campaign, let us not forget that 1) Virginia has elected the out party to the governor&#039;s seat ever since 1977; 2) ex-governor Douglas Wilder, the first elected black governor in American history, enjoys the limelight in which he basks  when he cuts against the Democratic grain in Virginia; 3) off-year elections almost always favor a better turnout of the out party&#039;s voters and 4) the drag Obama&#039;s dubious economic program has weighed down Democrats nationwide.  

Yes, in stressful economic times, most voters don&#039;t want a bunch of yapping about social issues and McDonnell was wise to stress local Virginia issues.  But let us not think McDonnell offers political smokestack lightning.  A competent Republican should have won the Virginia governor&#039;s race this year and McDonnell proved competent.  Let us see how popular he is after he gets to tackle the insolvable traffic crisis of northern Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Bob McDonnell ran a disciplined campaign, let us not forget that 1) Virginia has elected the out party to the governor&#8217;s seat ever since 1977; 2) ex-governor Douglas Wilder, the first elected black governor in American history, enjoys the limelight in which he basks  when he cuts against the Democratic grain in Virginia; 3) off-year elections almost always favor a better turnout of the out party&#8217;s voters and 4) the drag Obama&#8217;s dubious economic program has weighed down Democrats nationwide.  </p>
<p>Yes, in stressful economic times, most voters don&#8217;t want a bunch of yapping about social issues and McDonnell was wise to stress local Virginia issues.  But let us not think McDonnell offers political smokestack lightning.  A competent Republican should have won the Virginia governor&#8217;s race this year and McDonnell proved competent.  Let us see how popular he is after he gets to tackle the insolvable traffic crisis of northern Virginia.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>midcon: &lt;blockquote&gt; Hoffman on the other hand, ran from the right when the voters in NY-23 were primarily in the center. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hoffman also displayed a total lack of understanding of the issues local to NY-23.  He campaigned as one of these national crusaders for conservatism generally.  That&#039;s not what the folks in NY-23 wanted to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>midcon:<br />
<blockquote> Hoffman on the other hand, ran from the right when the voters in NY-23 were primarily in the center. </p></blockquote>
<p>Hoffman also displayed a total lack of understanding of the issues local to NY-23.  He campaigned as one of these national crusaders for conservatism generally.  That&#8217;s not what the folks in NY-23 wanted to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: midcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>midcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well come on Crystal, let&#039;s tell it like it is - McDonnell also won becasause Deeds was a weak candidate AND because &quot;ahem&quot; African American voters were not all that interested in this election because um...er....

Still your key point is spot on.    McDonnell spent his time talking about what people really care about in Virginia (especially Northern Virginia) economy, jobs, transportation.   Now we will see if spends his time doing something about the same.  Unfortunately because governors in Virginia are limited to single terms, it means he needs to move fast, which is difficult.  It also means there is punishment for failure per se.

Hoffman on the other hand, ran from the right when the voters in NY-23 were primarily in the center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well come on Crystal, let&#8217;s tell it like it is &#8211; McDonnell also won becasause Deeds was a weak candidate AND because &#8220;ahem&#8221; African American voters were not all that interested in this election because um&#8230;er&#8230;.</p>
<p>Still your key point is spot on.    McDonnell spent his time talking about what people really care about in Virginia (especially Northern Virginia) economy, jobs, transportation.   Now we will see if spends his time doing something about the same.  Unfortunately because governors in Virginia are limited to single terms, it means he needs to move fast, which is difficult.  It also means there is punishment for failure per se.</p>
<p>Hoffman on the other hand, ran from the right when the voters in NY-23 were primarily in the center.</p>
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		<title>By: joemarier</title>
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		<dc:creator>joemarier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s riiight... by volunteering that he wrote that thesis, he was able to allow enough time to get it vetted.  Also, it showed he had nothing to hide.  And the &quot;twenty year old&quot; thing was important because people know that you talked social issues differently in 1989 than you do in 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s riiight&#8230; by volunteering that he wrote that thesis, he was able to allow enough time to get it vetted.  Also, it showed he had nothing to hide.  And the &#8220;twenty year old&#8221; thing was important because people know that you talked social issues differently in 1989 than you do in 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus McDonnell&#039;s opponent was all too willing to tout McDonnell&#039;s social conservative credentials, so McDonell got it both ways.  He got to not focus on it, and still word spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus McDonnell&#8217;s opponent was all too willing to tout McDonnell&#8217;s social conservative credentials, so McDonell got it both ways.  He got to not focus on it, and still word spread.</p>
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		<title>By: joemarier</title>
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		<dc:creator>joemarier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balconesfault, that&#039;s a bit pat.  A congressional candidate has to know local issues whenever federal funding comes into play.  Which it does quite often!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balconesfault, that&#8217;s a bit pat.  A congressional candidate has to know local issues whenever federal funding comes into play.  Which it does quite often!</p>
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		<title>By: mpolito</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scozzafava was a social liberal certainly. But was that what sank her? She was also in favor of the stimulus, which all GOP House members opposed, and in favor of card check. Is Ms. Wright comfortable with  a GOP in favor of these things? McDonnell didn&#039;t mention social issues because they were not on voter&#039;s mind, but he didn&#039;t lurch leftward on social issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scozzafava was a social liberal certainly. But was that what sank her? She was also in favor of the stimulus, which all GOP House members opposed, and in favor of card check. Is Ms. Wright comfortable with  a GOP in favor of these things? McDonnell didn&#8217;t mention social issues because they were not on voter&#8217;s mind, but he didn&#8217;t lurch leftward on social issues.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there is a difference between a Congressional candidate - who necessarily as his will be focussing more on those big national issues, and not on getting the potholes filled - and a Governor, who must actually govern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there is a difference between a Congressional candidate &#8211; who necessarily as his will be focussing more on those big national issues, and not on getting the potholes filled &#8211; and a Governor, who must actually govern.</p>
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		<title>By: joemarier</title>
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		<dc:creator>joemarier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said no thanks to Sarah Palin campaigning for him, not endorsing him, actually...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said no thanks to Sarah Palin campaigning for him, not endorsing him, actually&#8230;</p>
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